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Directed 524F 5-Wire Actuators

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=146211
Printed Date: May 16, 2025 at 11:31 AM


Topic: Directed 524F 5-Wire Actuators

Posted By: likesbigtrucks
Subject: Directed 524F 5-Wire Actuators
Date Posted: May 19, 2020 at 5:27 PM

Hello,

I'm looking to install some keyless entry on an 80's Jeep Cherokee. I was looking into using an Avital 3100LX and DEI 524N and 524F actuators.
I have a question about the operation of the 5-Wire actuators.

I have found the following description:

Up - White & Black Connected
Down - Brown & Black Connected

Now my question, are these momentary or do they stay connected? If I were to wire these up like a normal door switch I'm concerned the relays would never shut off if these aren't momentary.



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Posted By: wirewise
Date Posted: May 19, 2020 at 5:34 PM
They should be momentary and only have output when it the most extreme position in either direction like all other 5 wire actuators. They are also connected to two relays, one for lock and one for unlock, for any slave actuators.

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~wirewise~ Verify all wiring with your meter before making any connections!




Posted By: likesbigtrucks
Date Posted: May 19, 2020 at 5:36 PM
Thank you so much, I've been googling for hours but i could not find ANY information on the operation.
I should've just asked here first and saved myself 2 hours.




Posted By: Ween
Date Posted: May 19, 2020 at 9:06 PM
5-wire actuators are usually linked to a controller of some sort. DEI had one years ago, SPAL has one. The switch contacts in the actuator can indeed stay latched open or closed, depending on the positioning of the linkage. The controller converts the switching action to a pulse that reverses polarity for lock or unlock. The switches can be used for other purposes.




Posted By: likesbigtrucks
Date Posted: May 19, 2020 at 9:36 PM
Well now we are back to confused. This was my initial suspicion, that I would need some mechanism to convert the latched to pulsed output.

Should I forgo the 5 wire actuator and just use a 2 wire?




Posted By: Ween
Date Posted: May 19, 2020 at 10:00 PM
Not familiar with the 3100LX wiring. If it has negative lock and unlock outputs, relays would still be needed with actuators. An external switch for operating the relays, and therefore the locks is easily added. Now if you are looking for a central locking type actuation (operate lock/unlock on the door, mechanically moving the linkage) this is when the controller and 5-wire actuator is used.




Posted By: likesbigtrucks
Date Posted: May 19, 2020 at 10:15 PM
Yeah it just has the standard outours.
I guess I was hoping to get away with not using a separate switch but that seems like it's more work then it's worth.






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