2017 Subaru Forester, Remote Start

2017 Subaru Forester 4cy standard key automatic
CrimeStopper Cool Start RS1-G5 Remote Starter
Omegalink
Interface Module
OL-MDB-ALL
Serial: 4C625A9AB6
Firmware: ADS-AL(DL)-SUB3 (2.2)
Hardware: AL (64)

Klon Prodcedure
1St Step in programing does as it says in manual.
2nd Step of Klon doesn't work.
I get red then green 3 times than I get 5 flashes after that and no remote start.

I see the part about once you get a successful program that if it doesn't start then hook up the Blk//white wire to positive. My problem so far is I am not getting a successful program. I have double and triple checked all my connections. I am using a relay for the second starter. The rest of the power harness is hooked up normal. 2 ignitions, 2 starters, 1 accessory and 2 powers.

Does anyone know what the 5 flashes on the Omegalink module means

I really appreciate the help
Thanks
Bernie

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Raw Customs Designs
2012 Ram 1500 QC Tradesman
1996 Impala SS
1964 Impala Wagon
MECP certified

Raw Customs-

Carefully check your wiring to the keyless data wire (and your relay) to the bcm (keyless data -bcm, Pin 11 of the (bottom) D connector -wire may be red or green).

This is the diagnostics list from ADS (idata/flashlogic/omega link) for SUB3:

SUB3
If the LED never gives 1x GREEN blink, press and release the module programming button. The LED will blink RED the error number:

1x RED = No immobilizer data received. Did you start the vehicle? Check wiring. Make sure our ignition has power during crank.
6x RED = Immobilizer question received, but not the answer. Was the vehicle (key) started? Check wiring and call technical support if problem persist.
7x RED = Immobilizer answer received, but not the question. Was the vehicle (key) started? Check wiring and call technical support. Any other error code, call technical support.

AFTER KLON
If the LED doesn't turn solid GREEN, press and release the module programming button. The LED will blink RED the error number:

1x RED = No immobilizer data received. Did you key start the vehicle? Check wiring.
2x RED = No CAN activity. Check the CAN wire connections.
4x RED = No ignition. Did you start the vehicle? Check ignition wiring.
5x RED = Keyless data wire not connected. Connect keyless data wire to vehicle OR +12V if you don't want it.
6x RED = Immobilizer question received, but not the answer. Was the vehicle (key) started? Check wiring and call technical support if problem persist.
7x RED = Immobilizer answer received, but not the question. Was the vehicle (key) started? Check wiring and call technical support. Any other error code, call technical support.

I hope this helps.

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Lectric Guy

This is amazing information. I kept thinking it might be my relay, I will check again

"5x RED = Keyless data wire not connected. Connect keyless data wire to vehicle OR +12V if you don't want it."

Does this mean if I am doing a remote start that is only using the 1 button key fob that I don't need the relay I can just hook said wire to 12volt and be done? I do want the keyless to work from the factory keyfob still but the aftermarket keyfob is a single button remote start on fob.

How do you get this information? Is it on their website? Thanks so much this has been a great help. I will report back after I check it.
Thanks
Bernie

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Raw Customs Designs
2012 Ram 1500 QC Tradesman
1996 Impala SS
1964 Impala Wagon
MECP certified

raw customs wrote:

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Does this mean if I am doing a remote start that is only using the 1 button key fob that I don't need the relay I can just hook said wire to 12volt and be done? I do want the keyless to work from the factory keyfob still but the aftermarket keyfob is a single button remote start on fob.

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I've never done an install that way, however I would leave the vehicle's keyless data wire intact (No relay/cut), and connect the module's keyless data output to +12V.

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Lectric Guy

Thanks I will give it a try.
Thanks so much
Bernie

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Raw Customs Designs
2012 Ram 1500 QC Tradesman
1996 Impala SS
1964 Impala Wagon
MECP certified

Update

I connected the Keyless data wire to 12volt and that worked as far as programming. First part of klon is good and second part is good. Still no start.

I connected the black/white wire also, still no start. I checked my can hi and can low both are connected properly.

Do I need to do anything with the Keyless relay wire coming from the module or just leave disconnected?

also even when I remote start it and dash lights up and you hear all the clicking you should, I press the brake to shut down and nothing. I double checked the programming of the remote start brain to make sure I have it set for the correct module and it is.

Thanks for the help
Bernie

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Raw Customs Designs
2012 Ram 1500 QC Tradesman
1996 Impala SS
1964 Impala Wagon
MECP certified

Sounds like you're close. Make sure that the remote start is programmed for ADS idatalink protocol.

Have you confirmed that the starter wires are showing 12V during the remote start attempt? Is there a factory alarm, and is it disarmed during the start attempt? You may want to unlock the vehicle and attempt remote start to see what happens.

At this point, since you are not seeing the brake signal during the remote start, I would perform a factory reset on the Omegalink module and reprogram the module from the beginning. You've jumper through a few hoops during the programming, so it would make sense to reprogram. No need to do anything with the keyless relay output.

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Lectric Guy

UPDATE

Good news: I can get the module to do a successful program.
Bad news: Still wont remote start
So I connected the black/white wire to 12volt and no change, still no start
The remote start does work if the key is in the ignition
I also noticed that if you start the car with the key the security light on dash does not appear
IF you try with just remote start it flashes on dash
I think this Is my issue but I checked my wiring and I have it wired correctly.
I programmed the module to unlock before start and also the remote start to unlock before start, hoping this will disarm the security light but doesn't seem to work

I also did a fresh module I had an extra one. I also reset all the factory defaults on the remote starter. Then changed to make sure I was on the ADS option.

Thanks for all the help so far lets finish this lol
Seriously
Thank you
Bernie

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Raw Customs Designs
2012 Ram 1500 QC Tradesman
1996 Impala SS
1964 Impala Wagon
MECP certified

The issue is with the immobilizer/bypass...I assume that you are running Data to Data using the plug from the module (vs wire to wire). Please confirm.   

That said, I also assume that you configured the module for Data Mode during programming. Please confirm.

What Black/White wire are you referring to? Where is it from, and what is it's function?

Also, What is the module LED showing 1.) At rest, and 2.) During remote start? (refer to the module diagnostics in the guide).




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Lectric Guy

lectricguy wrote:

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The issue is with the immobilizer/bypass...I assume that you are running Data to Data using the plug from the module (vs wire to wire). Please confirm.   
Correct

That said, I also assume that you configured the module for Data Mode during programming. Please confirm.
Correct

Also, What is the module LED showing 1.) At rest, and 2.) During remote start? (refer to the module diagnostics in the guide).
At Rest: no light
during start: no light

Diagnostics for module stat that this: Invalid ground when running status from remote starter.
I am using that wire to trigger a relay for my second starter

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We are almost there, keep the advice coming
Thank you
Bernie

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Raw Customs Designs
2012 Ram 1500 QC Tradesman
1996 Impala SS
1964 Impala Wagon
MECP certified

The module requires 12V from ignition (+) from the remote start on the module's pink wire and ground on the module's blue/red wire. GWR comes from the data mode connection.

You may want to check that there are no bent pins/bad connections in the data cable , module, or remote start data port. Also confirm the connection of Ignition and ground to the module, and all connectors being used are firmly seated.

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Lectric Guy

All pins are good. Everything is plugged in tight.
Ignition is def hooked up
Red/blue is grounded

Like I said it will start if the key is in the ignition
Thanks
Bernie

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Raw Customs Designs
2012 Ram 1500 QC Tradesman
1996 Impala SS
1964 Impala Wagon
MECP certified

It appears the module is not being activated. I would try one last test, moving the data connection to the other data port on the Omega, since it has 2 data ports. Both are programmed the same by the option register.

If that doesn't work, I'd recommend changing the connections to Wire to Wire. This will require removing the data connection and hardwiring the connections between the module and the remote start, following the connections in the guide. The module would also need to be reprogrammed for Wire to Wire (Standard Hardwire Mode).

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Lectric Guy

I only see one data port on the omegalink module. I have 2 plugs on one side and 4 plugs on the other side.

Man I really don't want to have to do wire to wire but I guess if that's the only way to make it work, than it is what it is

Am I missing something on the omegalink as far as the second data port? don't see one
thanks
bernie

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Raw Customs Designs
2012 Ram 1500 QC Tradesman
1996 Impala SS
1964 Impala Wagon
MECP certified

Sorry, the Crimestopper, not the Omega...

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Lectric Guy

Ended up doing a hardwire and it works no problem. Had to wire up some of the stuff not needed for data but hey it works.

I cant thank you enough for all your help

Thanks so much
Bernie

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Raw Customs Designs
2012 Ram 1500 QC Tradesman
1996 Impala SS
1964 Impala Wagon
MECP certified

I'm glad it worked out. Some older Remote starts can cause installers issues with Data to Data, but Wire to Wire usually works without any problem.

Enjoy the install.

Cheers!

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Lectric Guy