2012 Hyundai Accent, Prestige APS-687TWE

Hi guys, hope someone can give me some guidance on installing this remote starter on a 2012 Hyundai Accent - Standard key no transponder / immobilizer, this is going into my daughters car.

The car currently has an Anti Grind built in, confirmed by starting car and going past crank with igmition key when car is running, so question is, if started by remote starter will this feature still be on? if not i understand I will need to add a relay, after reading throug the forums here on 12volt I understand that I will need to add it in the following way:
86 to ignition 12v+
85 from Remote Start GWA
87a from ignition switch (Cut Starter wire)
30 to starter side of cut starter wire.
Diode 1N4004 with band towards 86 (ignition 12v+)

This leads me into my next question, I dont see a GWA wire on the APS-687TWE, the best wire I can see is from the 20 pin harness Lt. Blue- (Ground Out While Running) From manual - This wire provides a 300mA ground output that becomes active 1.5 seconds before the Remote Start Unit initializes and remains grounded while running plus an additional 2 seconds after the Remote Start Unit turns off. In all of the applications described below, a relay will be required. Would this be the correct wire?

My second question is regarding the 4 Pin Main Harness. (This is confusing the crap out of me)
I know again after reading the Forum posts that the Parking Lights are (-) Negative.

1. Black Chassis Ground (Got that)

2. White with Red Trace - This wire is the common contact of the on board parking light flasher relay. If the vehicle you are working on has +12 volt switched parking lights, connect this wire to a fused + 12 volt source. (Max. 15 Amps)
NOTE: If the vehicle's parking lights are ground switched, connect this wire to chassis ground.
As stated previously the Parking Light wire on the Hyundai Accent is (-) So I should connect this wire to Ground?

3. Yellow with Black Trace - (+) to Alarm Ignition Input (Dont think I need to use this wire).

4. White wire - Parking Light Relay Output. This wire would connect to the the Pink/Black Parking light wire.
This wire is the normally open contact of the on board parking light flash relay. Connect this wire to the vehicle's parking light feed wire. This is the wire that gets switched on, either (+) or (-), when the vehicle's parking light switch is activated.

The cars Anti-Grind will still function during R/S. The starter won't grind if you go past ON during key-takeover.

The Prestige R/S unit has an internal Parking Light relay. The White/Red wire is the input to this relay. It gives the installer the flexibility to select the (-) or (+) signal instead of using a jumper. You are correct, for your Elantra, connect the White/Red to the Black and run the Black to a good Chassis Ground.

GWA is very different from GWR. GWR is typically used to control a bypass module. GWA is typically used for window roll up, etc. What do you need GWA for?

BTW, if you haven't seen it, there is a Pictorial on that vehicle :    https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=139756

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kreg357. Thank you for the super quick response, so no relay for AntiGrind required, thats good news.

The GWA wire I was wanting to use for the AntiGrind relay, as per howie ll posted as per https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=126899 forum post, but seeing as I dont need it I should be OK.

The pictorial guide you posted is for an Hyundai Elantra, my daughters car is an Hyundai Accent, although there is another pictorial guide for this car at https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=132310 which I have read thouroughly and in this post near the bottom when talking about the Tach wire it states "This is a picture of a Tach source at the #4 Spark Plug Coil. Additionally, the Accent does not have "one-touch-starting" and is a candidate for Starter Kill and/or Anti-Grind. Just read who the author was and I see that you wrote this guide a long time ago - October 04, 2012.

Once again Kreg357 Thank you for the reply, I really do appreciate your help.

howie ll - Posted
Why people are getting flat batteries.
I've seen this posted twice recently and people don't appear to be following the alarm manufacturer's instructions.
An external anti-grind/starter relay should be wired as follows:-
85 Only use the "ground when armed (GWA)" from the alarm.
86 Ignition 1 only.
87a Key side of starter
30 Starter side of cut wire and starter output from R/S.
Diode 1N4004 across 85 and 86 with the band towards 86.
If you join a constant 12V+ to 86 that relay will be on all the time and you will have a flat battery within a day.

You're right, got the Elantra Pictorial mixed up with the Accent.

Test to verify you don't need Anti-Grind. You could add it if necessary using the GWR output.

Adding StarterKill would be difficult with the Prestige system.


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Thank you once again, if I do need AntiGrind, is that still the same wiring on the required relay? Stater wire cut, diode etc.

85 (GWR)" from the Remote Starter.
86 Ignition 1 only.
87a Key side of starter
30 Starter side of cut wire and starter output from R/S.
Diode 1N4004 across 85 and 86 with the band towards 86.

Yes, that will work for Anti-Grind if you need it.

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Just wanted to say thank you for the help, I got it installed today with no issues, you were correct I did not need to add any relays for Anti-Grind.

Took my time and made it look good and double checked everything, took about 3 hours, and if I do say so myself I'm pretty proud of how professional the install looks.

I started with T Taps then tore those things out and soldered everything.

Hi guys.

I recently installed a Prestige APS-687TWE in my daughters 2012 Hyundai Accent, no Alarm or Bypass (No Key Transponder) evrything went great, or so I thought.

I have recently discovered 2 issues:

1: The Doors unlock automatically and stay unlocked on remote start. (NOTE 1 Below)

2: The Parking Lights stay on after remote start shuts down, I cannot find any information on how to resolve this, I dont want her to get stranded somewhere with a flat battery.

I have read through the installation manual and also searched this forum, but cant seem to find ny of the same issues I am having.

NOTE 1
The manual has this information on these 2 wires, reads like I need to install one or both of them? But where to? The wiring from Bulldog Security states: GRAY/ORANGE (-) Requires Double Pulse, (drivers door key cylinder) WHITE 39-PIN PLUG, PIN 20 in DRIVERS KICK

14 Black w/ Light Green trace Wire:
Pulsed Ground Output After Start. The Black w/ Light Green Trace wire will provide a 1 second 300mA pulsed ground output after the vehicle is started under control of the remote start unit.

Typically this wire will be used to re-lock the vehicle doors if the doors unlock automatically when the factory anti-theft system is disarmed.

This wire will also activate when the transmitter is used to arm/lock the system.

This output can be selected to operate in a number of different configurations as shown in selectable feature # 21 of Bank 3.

21st: Alt O/P After Start. Pulse After Start. Gnd When Running. O/P Same as Ign 1. O/P Same As Accy. O/P During Crank


16 Black w/ Red trace Wire:
Pulsed Ground Output After Shutdown. The Black w/ Red Trace wire will provide a 1 second 300 mA pulsed ground output 2 seconds after the remote starts GWR wire shuts down.

This output will occur regardless of whether the circuit times out or is manually terminated.

Typically this output will be used to re-lock the vehicle doors if the doors unlock automatically when the ignition circuit transitions to off.

This output is selectable and can function as described in feature selection of bank 3 feature #22.

22nd: Alt O/P Aft Shut Dwn. Pulse Aft Sht Dwn. Gnd When Running. O/P Same as Ign 1. O/P Same As Accy. O/P During Crank

Any help you guys could give I would be eternally grateful.

Thank you.

Just reading through the forum again, I found the information psoted by lectricguy.

Looks like this should fix both issues I am having, but I just have one question, can I tie the wires from the Timer, Brown and from the Relay Brown/Orange at the same connection points I already made from the remote start Lock and driver door pin, no doides or anything required?



Thank you.

Looks like you've got the proper wire outputs figured out.

Use 16 Black w/ Red trace Wire: to DOOR TRIGGER     BROWN/ORANGE (-) WHITE 39-PIN PLUG, PIN 39 @ DRIVERS KICK PANEL
This will simulate the door opening after shutdown which should turn the headlights off.

Use 14 Black w/ Light Green trace Wire: to POWER LOCK     BROWN (-) WHITE 39-PIN PLUG, PIN 15 @ DRIVERS KICK PANEL
This should pulse the locks closed after the remote start gets going.

You don't need that timer/relay circuit for anything.

Steve

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Steve G

You could try adjusting the 18th remote start option before adding the Lock After Start wire. The 4th option might do what you need without added wiring if it relocks after the remote start sequence initiates. The default is to do nothing but get into programming mode and change it and see if it that resolves the unlocked doors after start issue.

Programmable Features Bank 3 Is Remote Start Selectable Features:

18th Door Lock Control   (No Change)   (Unlock Before & Lock After Start)   (Unlock Before Start)   (Lock After Start)

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Steve G

Some background on the relay circuit that I posted many years ago--it was used with an older version of the prestige alarm/remote start (APS787C if I recall). These older units had a pulse after shutdown that was coincident with the ignition turning off when the remote start shut down. With the 2013 Accent I was working on, the doors would unlock immediately after the ignition turned off (either with the key or remote start), and the parking lights would remain on. The only way to re-lock the doors and to turn the parking lights off was to delay the pulse after shutdown to pulse the lock wire and door pin wire. When this was done, the APS787C alarm would trigger. The timer and relay circuit addressed the problem.

Fast forward to the unit you are using, the APS687TWE. Audiovox updated their E series units with a number of useful features, including a 2 second delay after GWR on pulse after shutdown, as well as the door lock control features in Bank 3, feature 18.

I see you are having an issue with the doors unlocking and the parking lights remaining on after remote start shutdown. You also have a unit without an alarm, and 2012-2017 Accents have no factory alarm. Are the doors unlocking when the ignition turns off? You can confirm this by starting the vehicle with the key and locking the doors, then turning the ignition off and remove the key. Do the doors unlock? The 2013 Accent that I worked on had that issue.

So as Iskidoo stated, no need for the timer/relay circuit. The door lock in feature 18 only locks the doors after start, not after shutdown, so that won't correct the unlock at shutdown issue described above. It will lock the doors after the vehicle remote starts.

You can correct both the unlock at ignition off and parking light issues using the Pulse after shutdown signal from the remote start. Connect 2 general purpose diodes (such as 1N4001) configured as a "Y", with both diode bands tied together and the common banded end connected to the Pulse after shutdown wire going to the Prestige unit. This creates 2 outputs from the Pulse after shutdown signal. One of the unbanded ends will connect to the door locks; the other unbanded end will connect to the door pin. When the remote start shuts down, the door locks will unlock (thanks to Hyundai) and relock and the parking lights will turn off.

Hope this helps.

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Lectric Guy

Thank you all for the information, I will be adreessing this tomorrow, glad I dont need the timer, although I bought one from Amazon, as it not required I`ll return it.

Thank you all once again.

iskidoo & lectricguy, Thank you very much for you help.

lectricguy, I neglected to answer your questions in my previous post: Yes, door unlock after after turning off ignition and removing the key.

I like to draw thing out, makes it easier to understand for me.

This is the correct diagram for what you describe in your last post.

Once again thank you for your help.

Mickb24-

Yes, your drawing looks correct.


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Lectric Guy

Just an update, this fixed the door unlock and parking light shut down issues.

Thank you all for your help.

I'm glad it worked out. Enjoy the install!

Cheers!

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