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Acura TSX, Manual Transmission, Wonít Go Into Programming or Valet

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=146744
Printed Date: April†15, 2021 at 3:48 AM


Topic: Acura TSX, Manual Transmission, Wonít Go Into Programming or Valet

Posted By: swisssteez
Subject: Acura TSX, Manual Transmission, Wonít Go Into Programming or Valet
Date Posted: February†22, 2021 at 9:38 PM

Hello,

So I recently had a prestige alarm with the FLCAN BYPASS installed and decided to upgrade to the Viper remote start alarm 5706v with the same FLCAN bypass module onto my Manual transmission Acura TSX. According to the wiring diagram of the alarm and the vehicle everything was wired accordingly. Referenced below:

VIPER ALARM/FLCAN BYPASS TO ACURA TSX
Main Harness (MH1)
MH1/1 Red 12v (+) fused/ to WHITE (+) @ ignition switch harness
MH1/2 Black (-)/ to grounded to chassis
MH1/3 Brown (+)/ to Provided viper siren Red wire
MH1/5 White/ to Black/red (-) @ headlight switch

Remote Start Harness (RSH2)
RSH2/4 Pink/White (+)/ to White/Red (+) @ ignition switch harness
RSH2/5 Red (+) fused/ to MH1/1 Red 12v (+) on White (+) @ ignition switch harness
RSH2/6 Green (+)/ to Black/White (+) @ ignition switch harness on the key side of cut wire
RSH2/7 Violet (+)/ to Black/White (+) @ ignition switch harness on car side of cut wire
RSH2/8 Orange (+)/ to Black/Red (+) @ ignition switch harness
RSH2/9 Pink/White (+)/ to White/Red (+) @ ignition switch harness
RSH2/10 Pink (+)/ to Black/Yellow (+) @ ignition switch harness

Door lock 3 pin Harness (DLH3)
DLH3/1 Blue/ to Flcan bypass Blue/Black Unlock/Disarm (-) Input
DLH3/3 Green/ to Flcan bypass Green/Black Lock/Arm (-) Input

24 pin Connector Harness (CH4)
CH4/9 Gray/ to Flcan bypass Yellow Hood Status (-) Output
CH4/10 Blue/ to Flcan bypass Yellow/Red Trunk Status (-) Output
CH4/12 Violet/ to Flcan bypass Purple/White Tach (ac) Output
CH4/13 Black/White/ to Flcan bypass Green E- Brake status (-) Output
CH4/14 Green/Black/ to Flcan bypass Brown Disarm (-) Input
CH4/20 Brown/ to White/Black (+) @ Brake pedal switch
CH4/24 Green/White/ to Flcan bypass Green/Black same as DLH3/3.

Now for some strange reason I am not able to go into the programming mode to switch it from Manual Transmission Mode(MTS) mode to Automatic. I was getting the 7 clicks meaning the MTS error and I could not get it to go into any of the menus using the control center/valet button. I WAS able to only go into valet mode and out of Valet mode but for some reason that doesn't work anymore either. The control center LED light only responds to unlock and lock features, all my remote start alarms had the Automatic transmission feature because I never park in gear and for personal preference i donít like the idea of doing the ďprocessĒ of going into the MTS to remote start. Regardless of the matter something is wired incorrect but I cant seem to figure it out!

Now i did see on a separate post to ground off the door trigger but that did not work either and now i have given up. Hopefully someone can help me out and maybe pin point something i have over looked or not wire/wired incorrectly.

Thanks!!



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 7:17 AM
On the Viper 5706 you should have the Green wire at Pin 15 on the 24 Pin plug connected to the FLCAN Yellow/Black wire. This is the mandatory Door Pin Input required for MTS Mode and to enter into Programming Mode..

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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 7:21 AM
Just a few thoughts.

The FLCAN must be successfully programmed to be able to supply any signals ( door pin, trunk pin, tach, etc ).

Reservation Mode is required as a safety for any MT install.

In MT Mode the Viper must run in Engine Checking = Tach. Additionally a successful Tach Learn must be performed.

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Posted By: swisssteez
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 7:44 AM
Okay I will add that connection and see if it makes a difference, thanks!




Posted By: swisssteez
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 7:47 AM
Yeah, i would want to have it in Automatic transmission mode for my preference. Also the door inputs work and before when the valet modes were working i did learn the tach successfully, but i know something is not wired right because i cant go into any modes and more and i cant pragram it into any menu.

When i have the door open i turn the ignition to the on position then to the off
Hold the control center/valet button until the chirps happen but i get nothing.





Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 8:17 AM
It's really unsafe to run a manual transmission vehicle in Auto Trans Mode. Remember that you are bypassing the clutch interlock to get the Viper to crank the engine. If it was left in gear, it would be moving. Plenty of YouTube videos of this happening.

Sounds like you are doing the process to get into programming correctly. Your antenna and remotes function. Make sure all doors are closed at the start, then open one door. You can use a DMM to see if the FLCAN is outputting a (-) signal when a door is open and also test to verify that the Viper thick Pink wire is seeing +12V when the ignition switch is turned to ON.

I have a BitWriter so I'm might not be much help using the remotes to make programming changes.

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Posted By: swisssteez
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 9:00 AM
Yeah i understand but i know how i park my cars, i have had several cars that had a MT with the Automatic mode and its always been good. But besides that point, I am following the instructions correctly for the programming but something is wrong that the programming doesnít respond and that the Valet modes donít work anymore. I will try to wire up the other wire to see if it makes a difference.




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 10:22 AM
Your previous step of just grounding the Viper Door Trigger Input wire should work. Testing those Viper input wires is another good idea.



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Posted By: swisssteez
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 10:28 AM
Yeah thats what i was hoping but for some reason it doesnt respod to anything. There might be another wire thats preventing it from responsing? I have no clue as of now




Posted By: swisssteez
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 11:04 AM
UPDATE: so i wired the 24pin harness green to the yellow black on the bypass and no response.




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 11:21 AM
All the Viper needs to see is the Door Pin and the Pink IGN signal plus the control button to go into programming mode. Did you use a DMM to verify those signals are getting to the Viper?

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Posted By: swisssteez
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 11:27 AM
I havent, is the pink ignition the one on the 24pin harness? #17 ignition 1 output, i dont have that one wired up. Also i was using the function levels on the remote and figured i can get into and out valet mode




Posted By: swisssteez
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 11:52 AM
UPDATE: so i noticed something, my car was not cranking AT ALL. So i thought about when i splices the starter wire. I connected it back together and the car cranks! But i removed the green and violet wires so i know theres something wrong with my wiring. If i add the two wires my starter wont crank cause theres no connection. Iím super confused!




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 12:27 PM
swisssteez wrote:

I havent, is the pink ignition the one on the 24pin harness? #17 ignition 1 output, i dont have that one wired up. Also i was using the function levels on the remote and figured i can get into and out valet mode
That wire is not used. It's the thick Pink IGN wire that needs to see +12V to get into Programming Mode.

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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 12:31 PM
swisssteez wrote:

UPDATE: so i noticed something, my car was not cranking AT ALL. So i thought about when i splices the starter wire. I connected it back together and the car cranks! But i removed the green and violet wires so i know theres something wrong with my wiring. If i add the two wires my starter wont crank cause theres no connection. Iím super confused!
The car won't crank with the key when those two wire are connected?

Those two wire are for Starter Kill and Anti-Grind. If you don't want or need those features, you can just connect the Vipers Violet wire to the cars un-cut Starter wire.

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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 12:34 PM
Just noticed that you didn't list the thick Red/White and Red/Black wires. All three fused thick wires need to be connected to +12V constant.

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Posted By: swisssteez
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 12:41 PM
kreg357 wrote:

swisssteez wrote:

I havent, is the pink ignition the one on the 24pin harness? #17 ignition 1 output, i dont have that one wired up. Also i was using the function levels on the remote and figured i can get into and out valet mode
That wire is not used. It's the thick Pink IGN wire that needs to see +12V to get into Programming Mode.
So the pink wire is connected to the ignition wire on the ignition harness, the door trigger is grounded out again to be sure and the programming valet button is not responding to programming the menus.
Not sure as to why




Posted By: swisssteez
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 12:49 PM
kreg357 wrote:

Just noticed that you didn't list the thick Red/White and Red/Black wires. All three fused thick wires need to be connected to +12V constant.
I just connected it to the 12v constant and still nothing




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 1:36 PM
Guess it's time to test those wires. It's rare to have a bad Viper brain but it is possible to kill them with incorrect connections.

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Posted By: swisssteez
Date Posted: February†23, 2021 at 1:45 PM
Which ones should i test? To me its sort of a control center button issue, it doesnít respond when i click it for anything. I just tried the remote pair that didnít respond and neither did the learn tach mode and the start up diagnostic either. The button just doesnít respond. How would i just go about putting the car in l mts mode since i keep getting the 7 clicks? Iíll just have to figure this out some other time





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