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Starter Kill Relay on Viper 5806v

Printed From: the12volt.com
Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=147107
Printed Date: March 29, 2024 at 1:11 AM


Topic: Starter Kill Relay on Viper 5806v

Posted By: artistwantab
Subject: Starter Kill Relay on Viper 5806v
Date Posted: November 02, 2021 at 5:26 PM

Hey guys

I am new here.    

I am in the process of installing my Viper 5806v on my (new) 2005 Sprinter.   This is the first canbus electrical system...

So here is the wiring diagram from the site.   

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Seems pretty clear but what amp relay do I use?



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 02, 2021 at 7:44 PM
Good news! Your Viper 5806 has built in Starter Kill. Just use the thick Green and Violet wires on the 10 Pin Remote Start plug. No need for an external relay. This will also provide an Anti-Grind feature if needed.
Cut the vehicles Black/Yellow Starter wire and connect the Green and Violet Viper wires as per the instructions.

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Soldering is fun!




Posted By: artistwantab
Date Posted: November 02, 2021 at 8:44 PM
Thank you!

Hmmm..

Then what is the h1/6 Orange (-) 500ma Ground When Armed Output?



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2005 Mercedes Sprinter




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 03, 2021 at 4:40 AM
While it could be used for that purpose
( with special wiring to prevent battery drain ), typically that wire is used to trigger "window rollup" or similar operation.

Being as your highend Viper has Starter Kill already built in it's easier to do it that way. There will be quite a few unused wires on the Viper system.

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Soldering is fun!




Posted By: artistwantab
Date Posted: November 03, 2021 at 5:17 PM
@kreg357

Thank you for the reply.   It is greatly appreciated.

OK. So now I like the window roll-up option.

Do I need two 529T Power Window Roll Up Modules?   One for each side?



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2005 Mercedes Sprinter




Posted By: artistwantab
Date Posted: November 03, 2021 at 9:07 PM
One more question I know I am a noob but I want to learn this.   

So I am wiring the door locks...I don't have a door relay? My door locks are controlled by the CTM.

Do I need the 451m Door Look Relay?

This is from the sprinter wiring manual.
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I would like to unlock all doors.   

Thanks for the help.

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2005 Mercedes Sprinter




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 04, 2021 at 3:09 AM
"OK. So now I like the window roll-up option.

Do I need two 529T Power Window Roll Up Modules?   One for each side?
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The 529T will handle two windows in one direction, so yes, the 529T can do window roll-up on both front door windows.
There is a 529T Install Guide in the downloads section.

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Soldering is fun!




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 04, 2021 at 3:29 AM
"So I am wiring the door locks...I don't have a door relay? My door locks are controlled by the CTM.

Do I need the 451m Door Look Relay?
"

The simple / easy way to handle the door locks is by using one wire that causes the locks to lock with a pulse and then unlock with the next pulse, alternating back and forth.

Lock............WHITE/YELLOW..................AT SWITCH ON DASH OR CTM PINK PLUG, PIN 7......NEGATIVE PULSE ALTERNATES
Unlock..........WHITE/YELLOW..................same wire

If you want to ensure a FOB Lock press/command locks the Sprinter, and a FOB Unlock press/command unlocks the vehicle, then buy three 30/40 Amp SPDT relays with 5 wire harnesses and follow DEI Teck Tip 1700, link below :
https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=490

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Soldering is fun!




Posted By: artistwantab
Date Posted: November 04, 2021 at 5:34 PM
@kreg357

Thank you SOOOO much!

I didn't even know about that section of the site. I was also able to fine the N5x06 installation manual which makes things to much clearer. I have been using the quick installation guide given by Viper this whole time.

Thanks again.

Be back when I hit a road block.

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2005 Mercedes Sprinter




Posted By: artistwantab
Date Posted: November 05, 2021 at 2:18 PM
507M install Questions...Is this correct and

507m Wiring
Red
Connected to constant 12v Power Source - Should I add a fuse?

Orange
H2 Orange     (-)200mA Accessory output

Blue?
Can I connect this to the grey/yellow trunk trigger since I do not have a trunk?



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2005 Mercedes Sprinter





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