Is My Alarm Brain Broken
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=17229
Printed Date: July 27, 2025 at 5:32 AM
Topic: Is My Alarm Brain Broken
Posted By: Creator_11
Subject: Is My Alarm Brain Broken
Date Posted: August 06, 2003 at 7:45 AM
Ok, here goes, i just installed my alarm 2 days ago, and everything was hooked up perfectly, hers my problems, first the shock sensor is not working, tested is multiple times after wating up to 5min after arming the alarm, then i realized i hooked up the starter kill corectly, i have triple checked it, and the car still starts when the cars armed and going off, and i have now replaced the battery in my remote and reporgramed the remote but i can only get a reception of about 2 inches. I have pulled the entire brain out to open it up and i didn't see anyhting unusualy, any cracked solders, but what werid is the day i installed it, i could get like 20 feet minimum with the remote, and now i can only get 2 inches from the brain, the antenna looks ok, i armed it before going inot a pizza place then when i came out, it wouldn't disarm, so i cchanged the battery in the remote like i said, and still no luck, with the starter relay not working, the shock sensor not working and now the reception is completely crap could my brain be faulty, its an autopage rf-305, im not sure what to do, i bought it brand new from ebay, should i try to get a replacement from autopage?
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Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: August 06, 2003 at 7:59 AM
well, it could a few different things.....
is the antenna wire grounded?? if so undo it. make sure it is not touching any metal.
send me the wiring info for that alarm and i will look over it.
what kind of car is it. we need to know what wires you hooked the alarm to in the car....
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Posted By: Creator_11
Date Posted: August 06, 2003 at 8:35 AM
Ok I have a 97 saturn sc2, the alarm can lock, unlock the doors, the door triggers work fine, the ignition trigger works finre, the car alarm can go off if its armed and i open the doors, or turn the ignition on, its just poor reception and the shock sensor and the startewr relay not working, i have posted before on the starter relay and i have wired it exactly how it shows on the closed relay on this site for a starter. the antenna i have not moved, its still in the same place it was when i was getting like 30 feet wiht the remote. the wiring is a follows Alarm red wrie - constant 12v alarm green wire - parking lights which works fine alarm gray wire - car door triggers white wire - ignition trigger switch BLACK/ white wire - starter ground output wire - for starter kill black wire - grounded to the chassis blue wire - hooked to the siren which chips fine light blue wire - positive door locks light green wire - positive door locks asi said the system works, i just have to hold the remote about 3 inches fomr the brain, and the shock sensor that just simply plugs into the brain is not working, i have run a volt meter to the shock sensor red wire, is put out about 5 volts disarmed and 0 volts when armed, also the starter kill relay is not working, the BLACK/ white wire works fine i tested it with a voltmeter, but could the relay be fried. 85 - alarm output 86 - ignition 12v 30 - starter wire to the starter 87a - starter wire to switch
Posted By: Creator_11
Date Posted: August 06, 2003 at 8:36 AM
How can you ground your atenna wire if it is wrapped in the electrical platic stuff that most wiring has. technically isn't it sheilded.
Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: August 06, 2003 at 9:07 AM
sometimes people think that it should be grounded. as you know it shouldnt be.
is this wire:
BLACK/ white wire - starter ground output wire - for starter kill
a neg output wire from the alarm????
85 - alarm output -
86 - ignition 12v
30 - key side of starter wire
87a - starter wire side
------------- Good Luck
David
Ace Security
813-376-9778
Tampa
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Posted By: elrayodesinaloa
Date Posted: August 06, 2003 at 11:28 AM
for the starter kill try this: 30 KEY SIDE of the starter wire 87a Motor Side of the starter wire 86 BLACK/ white from alarm 85 true ignition (make sure you're not getting the accessory wire, to test ignition just poke on the wire and crank the car, the wire should read 12 volts when you turn the key as well as when you are cranking, on the other hand, accessory wires show 12 volt when you turn the key but rest at 0 when you're cranking) -------------
Posted By: elrayodesinaloa
Date Posted: August 06, 2003 at 11:30 AM
also one common problem with reception is ground, just run a test cable straight from the alarm to the negative side of the battery and try it out. Many cars are not well chassis grounded.
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Posted By: Creator_11
Date Posted: August 06, 2003 at 3:21 PM
I did that, i was actually grounded to the battery, then i tried it grounded to the chassis, no difference
Posted By: elrayodesinaloa
Date Posted: August 06, 2003 at 6:14 PM
well maybe the brain is indeed busted dude. How much did you pay for it on ebay? just curious
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Posted By: Creator_11
Date Posted: August 07, 2003 at 7:34 AM
Ipaid 20 u.s. from an alarm shop in florida, thay said it should still has a warrenty, so im hopin if i can't figure out whats wrong and it is faulty perhaps, autopage will either fix or replace it. otherwise im lookin to buy just and autopage alarm brain, any model, 305, 310, 600, 650, whatever.
Posted By: elrayodesinaloa
Date Posted: August 07, 2003 at 11:16 AM
Yeah well if you can get a higher model it'll be best for you. That 305 is sort of problematic. Here at the shop we shipped a lot of them which were defective and they traded them for the 310 which work great. The 850 is awesome.
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Posted By: Creator_11
Date Posted: August 08, 2003 at 6:55 PM
Im thinkin my alarm brain is faulty now, I check the shock sesnor by hooking up to a straight 12v source, and ti works fine, the relay is also ok for the starter diable, yet i both do not work when hooked to the alarm, but eh remote door lock feature and siren does, so before i ship this thing back to autopage, which could take prbabily weeks for them to send one backm, is there anything i can look for, i have the brain apart right now, and im just chekcing for any cracked soliders, is that all i can do as a last resort.
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