Total Closure
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=17770
Printed Date: June 23, 2025 at 2:37 AM
Topic: Total Closure
Posted By: vmail
Subject: Total Closure
Date Posted: August 18, 2003 at 2:00 PM
My car is a 2003 Yaris 1.3 CDX, I have fitted a Scorpion 1014T2, All doors, boot, bonnet, immobiliser, ultra sonics and central locking are connected. Just cant get the Total Closure to work, its -ve trigger, Front Drivers Side
Red wire in 10 way connector on push button pannel Front Passenger Side
Blue/Red wire in 13 way connector near sill cover Totoya and Cobra both confirm this but I am getting nothing, I have used Diodes to separate the C-loccing and the windows, I have set the alarm trigger to 30sec to close the window
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Posted By: zargon
Date Posted: August 18, 2003 at 4:52 PM
I don't think i understood a thing you said but you must know what your doing from what i did understand, its probally something simple , walk away and I'm sure you will get it.
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zargon ruler of estranorth
Posted By: vmail
Date Posted: August 18, 2003 at 5:17 PM
tryed that, walked away for 4 months
Posted By: floaterr
Date Posted: August 20, 2003 at 1:56 PM
Are you trying to get the windows to roll all the way up?
So your trouble is that stop some of the way up?
Posted By: floaterr
Date Posted: August 20, 2003 at 2:07 PM
Toyota website bites.. Cannot find out any real details about your car.
Posted By: vmail
Date Posted: August 20, 2003 at 3:15 PM
Yes I am trying to get the windows to roll all the way up, but I am getting nothing, its not even moving a mm, i think i understand why, the window controls only work with the ignition on, I am trying to close the window(using the alarm) with the ignition off, so I need a relay circuit which will power the window circuit and also create a negitive trigger for the c-locks and windows What would you like to know about the car? (I probably know more than Toyota, they hardly know anything when I phoned 5 of their showrooms)
Posted By: floaterr
Date Posted: August 20, 2003 at 3:35 PM
LOL
I was trying to look up Total closure. I thought maybe it was a feature not offered or named soemthing else in the US. Now I understand though. 
If you have installed a window roll up module then you just need to route the power wire to a constant source. The relay would just be over kill and more extra wiring. Make sure to fuse it close to the source since it will need to be higher power (20 amps).
I cannot find much on the alarm system either. How are you hooking the windows up to the alarm? Some systems have a secondary output for that and some recommend putting it to the starter kill (immobilizer) output. Which are you shooting for? Let me know what the output is suppose to do (time,polarity,when its activated)
Also I see in the info for the alarm what they are talking about when they say total closer. Fancy name(s) we don't use here.
Good luck
Posted By: vmail
Date Posted: August 20, 2003 at 4:27 PM
"The relay would just be over kill and more extra wiring" What do you mean? im not bothered about the extra wires There are 3 wires
GREEN/ Black(source of +ve or -ve trigger)
Yellow/Black (Open Locks)
Yellow (Close Locks and Close Windows (but must be separated by 2 diodes)) just an Idea the alarm has 2 immobilizer points
(Purple and PURPLE / black) this bypasses a wire either fuel pump or ECU, or even better (Yellow/Red) single cable which goes to a relay to cut either fuel pump or ECU I could use that to power the window circuit for 40sec The total closure circuit timing options are 0.5sec, 1 sec or 30sec (I need 14 sec to close the windows) https://homepage.ntlworld.com/v-mail/1014t2.jpg sorry about the image quality
Posted By: vmail
Date Posted: August 20, 2003 at 4:34 PM
total closer (close electic windows) Toyota call it Global Closure, what do you call it in the states?
Posted By: vmail
Date Posted: August 20, 2003 at 4:39 PM
Posted By: vmail
Date Posted: August 20, 2003 at 5:15 PM
SPECIFIC VEHICLE ALARM FITTING INSTRUCTIONS REV. 00 www.cobra.it Note: This information is not binding, therefore it must be considered only an example for installation purposes that must be executed as per the instructions given on the product installation manual. toyar01gbbt.doc MAKE TOYOTA MOD. YARIS* YEAR. 01 ® PETROLDIESEL* Models with original equipment keyless entry system. ALARM/SIRENPOSITION Position the compact alarms and the sirens in the engine compartment, on the support of theshock absorber, driver’s side. Pass the cables through the original rubber sleeve located inthe bulkhead that divides the engine compartment from the passenger’s compartment,driver’s side. CENTRAL UNIT POSITION Position the modular system and the modules under the dashboard, driver’s side. POWER SUPPLY + 30: connect to the 3 mm2 RED / WHITE wire located in a multiway connector at the entranceof the fuse box.- 31: connect with a terminal directly to the car body. IGNITION WIRE + 15/54: connect to the 1,5 mm2 BLUE wire located in the wiring harness of the 13 way whiteconnector, behind the left lateral bulkhead, driver’s side. DIRECTION INDICATORS Connect to the 1,5 mm2 GREEN/ BLACK wire with GREY references and to theGREEN/ YELLOW wire with GREY references located in the bundle of cables behind the sillcover, driver’s side. ELECTRIC WINDOWS Positive control signal Front window, driver’s side:cut the 1,5 mm2 RED wire located in the 10 way white connector in the original push-buttonpanel. Front window, passenger’s side:cut the 1,5 mm2 BLUE/RED wire located in the 13 way white connector behind the sill cover,driver’s side. ACTIVAT./DEACTIVATIONCONTROLSConnections antitheft/vehicle
Art.3800 Vehicle Position
YELLOW/BLACK GREEN/ ORANGE 25 way white connector
GREY/BLACK +30 Supply in the fuse box
VIOLET +30 Supply in the fuse box
ORANGE +30 Supply in the fuse box
VIOLET/WHITE +30 Supply in the fuse box
ORANGE / WHITE +30 Supply in the fuse box
The 25 way white connector is located on the central on the side of the instrument board.Refer to the diagram nr. 86. IMMOBILISATION POINT Fuel pump Cut the 1 mm2 BLACK/ RED wire with GREY references located in the wiring harness behindthe sill cover, driver’s side. STARTER +50: Cut the 0,75 mm2 BLACK wire with GREY references located in the wiring harnesscoming out of the connector of the ignition key. BONNET SWITCH Install an additional switch on the headlamp support plate, driver’s side. DOORS SWITCH Connect to the 0,75 mm2 RED / YELLOW wire with GREY references located in the 25 waywhite connector on the central doors locking unit (light blue color) located to the left of theinstrument board. BOOT SWITCH Install an additional switch on the rear bulkhead.
Posted By: vmail
Date Posted: August 20, 2003 at 5:23 PM
Posted By: floaterr
Date Posted: August 21, 2003 at 8:40 AM
Ok I appologize. I'm in way over my head on this one but since I am the only one responding might as well keep going.
I cannot find enough info on "total or global closure" to understand it's meaning. I see that the alarms you have to purchase are Categorized (by the government?). It's a little more free here. The alarm is just and alarm and has no catagories other then what the makers put on it. I see that they say "total closure" and I think that they have output to lock all doors and rool up all windows. However they appear to be low voltage outputs (negative?) and not meant to power the windows themselves.
I couldn't find what it means in the car itself so I'll ask more detailed questions. I do understand now what the alm is doing just not the car.
So I am to understand that there is a feature in the car where you hold down 1 button for a set amount of time (5-10 seconds) and ALL windows roll themselves up? However, this is normally done with the key in the ignition. Correct?
Posted By: floaterr
Date Posted: August 21, 2003 at 8:59 AM
Example of US windows (high dollar cars might not use this system but the average car in US does)
Our windows for the most part do not roll up/down on their own from the factory EXCEPT the drivers front window. They have what we call "express down". If you hold the drivers frt switch down for 2-3 seconds then let go the window will roll all the way down stopping by itself. All other passanger windows do not do this.AND the key has to be in the ignition position. (power on +15) Again this is the average their are exceptions.
If we want all the windows to roll up (or down) without holding each of the buttons we have to install a "window control module" like this Click here
All we are doing is cutting the wire that sends power (positive) to the motor in half (like the pictures) and then the module sends power from its own source down the wire towards the motors with relays it has built inside. Basically, by-passing the switches. The module has to be given constant power (what you call +30).
Where it says "aux from alarm" would be where you would connect your "yellow" total closure wire.
Posted By: vmail
Date Posted: August 21, 2003 at 10:36 AM
i'll have to get a proffesional to do it cos im out of ideas
Posted By: floaterr
Date Posted: August 21, 2003 at 11:54 AM
Sounds like a plan. I went to that cobra site and saw they sell the window modules I mentioned. Guess thats the one you got
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