real Compustar 2WSS-AS opinions?
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Topic: real Compustar 2WSS-AS opinions?
Posted By: dj_chiro
Subject: real Compustar 2WSS-AS opinions?
Date Posted: September 10, 2003 at 9:03 AM
I am looking to get an aftermarket alarm (No Security Group on my Jeep) in the near future. I've shopped around and would like some opinions prefereably first hand rather than hearsay about a few systems...
I want a good system not just locks and starter disable along with the usual standard features.
The things I am looking for are:
Remote Start
Power Locks
Ability to pop the rear window glass (like OEM)
Excellent range
Passive arming
I've stopped into the local shops around me and they all seem to carry the same crap...Viper & Clifford. What I am really interested in is the Compustar 2WSS-AS . It claims to have excellent range but I have read some mixed reviews on the quality of the system. I like the 2way feature because I can confirm if my KJ has been started on them cold mornings and I will know if any sensors get tripped off via the 2 way pager. 1 local shop told me to "keep my compustar and my compu-cash"... LOL needless to say this guy was a 4' 10" jerk who sat on a stool the whole time like he was the biggest little man in all of Jersey... I didnt like his attitude at all.
Then another shop (who I've done business with before) claimed that they had one of the first Compustar 2ways a while back and they are fine. I don't know.
Does anyone have this system? What other systems are excellent as far as features and range. I have some friends who have sh*tty range on their systems and cant even tell if they started their car. I dont want to invest in the wrong system.
Replies:
Posted By: b_lum81
Date Posted: September 10, 2003 at 2:16 PM
I've recently had my compustar 2WFM-AS installed and I'm actually quite impressed with the range on it. Autostart works perfectly, as well as the locks/passive lock mode. My only problem is my shock sensor which I don't know if its defective or installed incorrectly. but if the shock sensors were working right now i'd would be totally impressed with the overall performance on it...
Posted By: elrayodesinaloa
Date Posted: September 10, 2003 at 3:56 PM
Compustar It's a good system but I'd recommend better the Autopage 850LCD it has extra channels, pretty good range and an extra conventional remote besides the 2-way remote. Compustar only gives you 1 remote. I've had some issues with some compustars and none with Autopage.
Posted By: Darksyde
Date Posted: September 10, 2003 at 9:40 PM
I have had compustars in my last 4 cars and trucks and I think they are the best alarm out to date. I have never had a problem with any feature and i use it to control my air ride suspension Just my 2 cents
Posted By: dj_chiro
Date Posted: September 10, 2003 at 10:15 PM
b_lum81 wrote:
I've recently had my compustar 2WFM-AS installed and I'm actually quite impressed with the range on it. Autostart works perfectly, as well as the locks/passive lock mode. My only problem is my shock sensor which I don't know if its defective or installed incorrectly. but if the shock sensors were working right now i'd would be totally impressed with the overall performance on it...
So are you getting false alarms becasue of the sensor? Can you give me an example of the range? How many ft. approx? Through walls...buildings etc??? thanks -------------
Posted By: b_lum81
Date Posted: September 10, 2003 at 11:00 PM
Basically I'm thinking that my shock sensor is defective... Its nothing against the actual alarm. besides the shock sensor, i'm totally impressed with it right now. I've been able to arm/disarm my car from about 4 blocks away and between my work and the parking lot is a concrete building, and there's no problem with the signal.
Posted By: dj_chiro
Date Posted: September 11, 2003 at 7:36 AM
b_lum81 wrote:
Basically I'm thinking that my shock sensor is defective... Its nothing against the actual alarm. besides the shock sensor, i'm totally impressed with it right now. I've been able to arm/disarm my car from about 4 blocks away and between my work and the parking lot is a concrete building, and there's no problem with the signal.
Sounds good to me, thanks for your input! :) -------------
Posted By: dj_chiro
Date Posted: September 11, 2003 at 7:39 AM
b_lum81 wrote:
Basically I'm thinking that my shock sensor is defective... Its nothing against the actual alarm. besides the shock sensor, i'm totally impressed with it right now. I've been able to arm/disarm my car from about 4 blocks away and between my work and the parking lot is a concrete building, and there's no problem with the signal.
1 other thing; does the transmitter fit nicely in your pocket? I see the belt clip comes with it and I really dont want to be wearing this thing everywhere I go... I would much rather just keep it on my keychain like the factory remote locks... -------------
Posted By: floaterr
Date Posted: September 11, 2003 at 9:03 AM
Mu $.02
The Autopages seems to be pretty much the same alarm but at a much better price ($100) less the last time I looked. The autopage has a temp sensor for inside the car and a "knock sensor" (mounts to the inside of the windshield) to page the driver/owner. BTW this has to be turned on each arming cycle incase your wondering. Also with the 850 you get 4 output for windows,trunk etc.. (3 of which are programmable for timer/latched/momentary) The 750 has only trunk pop. The compustar has 2 outputs.
Right now the autopage 850 is going for about $180 and the compustar goes for $270. The 850 also moved up to a shock and glass break sensor.
Posted By: dj_chiro
Date Posted: September 11, 2003 at 9:50 AM
floaterr wrote:
Mu $.02
The Autopages seems to be pretty much the same alarm but at a much better price ($100) less the last time I looked. The autopage has a temp sensor for inside the car and a "knock sensor" (mounts to the inside of the windshield) to page the driver/owner. BTW this has to be turned on each arming cycle incase your wondering. Also with the 850 you get 4 output for windows,trunk etc.. (3 of which are programmable for timer/latched/momentary) The 750 has only trunk pop. The compustar has 2 outputs.
Right now the autopage 850 is going for about $180 and the compustar goes for $270. The 850 also moved up to a shock and glass break sensor.
If I am understanding this correctly doesn't the Compustar system comes with all the equipment I need to do doors, starter, trunk pop... I dont need to buy any additional modules, correct? I really dont really need 6 channels. The price of the Autopage looks good but the remote looks bigger than the Compustar... And the range of the Compustar seems to be better. Although I do like the extra remote with the Autopage, I still think the Compustar is the right choice for me... -------------
Posted By: b_lum81
Date Posted: September 11, 2003 at 12:11 PM
dj_chiro wrote:
1 other thing; does the transmitter fit nicely in your pocket? I see the belt clip comes with it and I really dont want to be wearing this thing everywhere I go... I would much rather just keep it on my keychain like the factory remote locks...
Well it turns out that a wire going to my dual stage shock sensor wasn't secure so once i secured it everything is working perfectly now. There is a belt clip that comes with it but i dun actually use the clip, and there is a keychain attached to the alarm. The only thing really to worry about is breaking the antenna on the pager... other than that, i'm 110% impressed with it :-)
Posted By: tcool
Date Posted: September 11, 2003 at 12:21 PM
FYI on the Compustar. These guys are talking about the FM (frequency modulated) Compustar alarm. You asked about the SS (Spread Spectrum). The SS will be about about double the range as the FM systems in those Compustars, and the Autopage. The compustar does have the "knock here to page owner" sensor, but no interior thermometer. The new versions are upgradeable to 6 or 7 outputs with an expansion module. The remote is big and sometimes people ask me if it's a phone, but I'm so used to the range I wouldn't give it up. ------------- bzzzzttttt
Posted By: elrayodesinaloa
Date Posted: September 11, 2003 at 3:45 PM
If I were you I would't buy the Spread spectrum Compustar, because for one, the remote is huge and two they still haven't figured the fact that the receiver has problems because they try to achieve such a long range (I tested it from 10 blocks away) that you MIGHT (or not) get locked out once in a while while trying to disarm the system when you are real close to the car ( I don't know why this happens but it does once in a while) The Autopage 850's remotes are smaller than compustar and like the guy was sayint they give you extra stuff like inside temperature monitoring, and paging system, time, alarm clock, timer for the remote start etc..also if your car's locks aren't negative triggers you need to add relays. If it's positive or negative Autopage works with both, unless is a reverse polarity. There are good things about the compustar (except for the SS) I'm not saying is a bad alarm, but I've had both installed in my cars and I definitely prefer Autopage. They're both quality equipment but Autopage is more expandable I think. Also the Autopage remotes last longer, twice I had to replace the compustars. ( I drop them a lot) good luck with whatever you decide to go with.
Posted By: dj_chiro
Date Posted: September 11, 2003 at 5:15 PM
Thanks for the info guys this site really is helping me decide. I've thought about it and really the 2 systems are just about the same...When you compare the features of the 2 systems (Autpopage 850 & Compustar 2WSS-AS) aside from the temp. sensor on the Autopage (which I don't really need), these systems are just about identical. Which brings me to my 2 priorities...RANGE and TRANSMITTER SIZE.. The compustar SS has killer range but the remote is a little big.... The Autopage has less range but the remote is smaller & you get 2 remotes... Hmmmm Damn it always has to be a tough decision! :) I really want the range of the compustar but I HATE carrying things with me wherever I go... I have a small cell phone and carry a money clip thats it... If any of yuo guys can take a picture of the SS remote in your hand so I can get a better perception of the size I would really appreciate it. I've searched around (Compustar, ebay, google) for a different picture but cant find any... Again, I really dont need all the extra channels and expandability I just want good range and a quality. Bot the systems have the features I MUST have. -------------
Posted By: civicboy
Date Posted: September 11, 2003 at 9:52 PM
dj_chiro wrote:
floaterr wrote:
Mu $.02
The Autopages seems to be pretty much the same alarm but at a much better price ($100) less the last time I looked. The autopage has a temp sensor for inside the car and a "knock sensor" (mounts to the inside of the windshield) to page the driver/owner. BTW this has to be turned on each arming cycle incase your wondering. Also with the 850 you get 4 output for windows,trunk etc.. (3 of which are programmable for timer/latched/momentary) The 750 has only trunk pop. The compustar has 2 outputs.
Right now the autopage 850 is going for about $180 and the compustar goes for $270. The 850 also moved up to a shock and glass break sensor.
If I am understanding this correctly doesn't the Compustar system comes with all the equipment I need to do doors, starter, trunk pop... I dont need to buy any additional modules, correct? I really dont really need 6 channels. The price of the Autopage looks good but the remote looks bigger than the Compustar... And the range of the Compustar seems to be better. Although I do like the extra remote with the Autopage, I still think the Compustar is the right choice for me...
I paid $750 for my 2WSS-AS alarm. $700 for the alarm and installation plus $50 for bypassing a switch for my manual transmission so my car could autostart. I had to get a power/electric trunk release kit so I could use my remote to pop open my trunk. Cost = $10 plus $100 for install and wire hookup so my remote could release it. Finally, my two auxiliary buttons aren't programmed. I could get additional modules added so I can get the windows to roll up and down, but that means more $$$. I'll just leave it for now since maybe I can program it for something else in the future. I've had the alarm for about a month now and I'm very satisfied with it. I should've done some research first before I got this alarm. I could have bought the alarm off Ebay for $270 and have a local shop install it for about $300. I would of saved over $180.
Posted By: elrayodesinaloa
Date Posted: September 11, 2003 at 10:16 PM
One last thing, if you're using the SS remote, compustar recommends not to carry it along with your keys, or add a metal chain to the remote because any metal affects its opperation , that's why they give you the belt clip. just so you know. Our prices down here are around $550 for a compustar and $500 for the Autopage installed,plus $60 whatever extra accessories you desire.
Posted By: 12voltassassin
Date Posted: September 12, 2003 at 3:02 PM
in my experience the system ive feel into after playin with all of these is the ULTRA START 4500 excellent true range and plenty of channels 5 to be exact its a flip style pager. 4000 feet of range and lifetime like all systems should be waranted.its canadien and its f**king quality one of the nicest systems ive had the pleasure of installing. peace everyone
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Posted By: elrayodesinaloa
Date Posted: September 17, 2003 at 4:02 PM
That's pretty good range, but I don't know about the remote, it looks pretty funky and why do you need a flip cover? I wonder how big it is.
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