04 grand am security light
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: July 04, 2025 at 5:41 PM
Topic: 04 grand am security light
Posted By: godsegoizhuge
Subject: 04 grand am security light
Date Posted: October 19, 2003 at 12:45 PM
I just installed the an avital 4200 remote start/alarm with the 555L. When i goto start the car with the key it does nothing, but when i reconnect the yellow wire it starts fine. So i reconnected the yellow wire with the bypass module installed then seperated the yellow wire and now the car will start fine with the key and wheni remote start, but the security light now comes on. I thought it might be the bypass module so i exchanged it with like 2 others, but it doesnt want to do anything till i rehook the yellow wires together and seperate them.
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Posted By: HamiltonAudio
Date Posted: October 19, 2003 at 1:25 PM
try a different brand/type of bypass specifically for the 04's. there are also "versions" of the software for a particular bypass, and if you get an older version, it won't work with the newest 04's...we had this problem too. get a PLDATA module and you'll have no problems. simple install that stays away from the yellow/black passlock wires. b
Posted By: godsegoizhuge
Date Posted: October 19, 2003 at 10:54 PM
So it's prolly the 555L that's messing up all together? What 'bout that new passlock 3? Is it a possibility that this vehicle might have that? I never heard of the pldata since my boss lady just now wants to carry just basic DEI brands.
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: October 19, 2003 at 10:59 PM
Just curious, are you talking about the code wire or the starter wire when you said that the key wouldn't do anything? I have had a couple of the 555L bad out of the box but not 3 in a row.
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Posted By: godsegoizhuge
Date Posted: October 19, 2003 at 11:11 PM
Talking 'bout the yellow passlock wire.
Posted By: HamiltonAudio
Date Posted: October 20, 2003 at 7:00 AM
most vehicles with Passlock III will have PK3 stamped on the key (but not always). What software or other info source are you using for your installs? It should tell you definitively which security it has (I can't remember off hand). PLDATA will not work for PKIII. the PKG3 or PKG4 bypass will be necessary for that. I've not had any experience with the DEI bypasses. I do know we've been using Autostart stuff for several seasons now with exceptional luck... b
Posted By: godsegoizhuge
Date Posted: October 20, 2003 at 10:26 AM
Ok, the car has the passlock 2 system i was mistaken sorry. So what should i do now?
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: October 20, 2003 at 6:58 PM
Get the PLDATA if you want a module. Or you can use a relay and a resistor.
Pin 30 goes to computer side of cut yellow passlock starter wire
Pin 87a goes to the key side of the yellow passlock starter wire.
Pin 87 goes to one side of the resistor and the other side of the resistor goes to the black passlock ground wire
Pin 85 gets ground out when running from the RS
Pin 86 goes to the Ignition wire.
To measure the resistence, start the car then cut the yellwo passlock starter wire. Strip back the key side and strip back an inch of the black passlock ground wire. The put one DMM probe on the key side and the other on the black wire, then reverse the leads and get a resistor withing 5% of the higher of the 2 resistences.
If you use this method, you will need to make sure to turn the key to start before hitting the break to turn the RS off or else the theft light will turn on. There should be a factory anti-grind feature so there is not need ot install one.
This is actually very easy to do. But like I said use a PLDATA if you can. The install only requires Power, ground, ground out when runninf from the RS and then a single connection to the data line at the OBDII connector.
------------- J Rilla
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Posted By: godsegoizhuge
Date Posted: October 21, 2003 at 12:34 PM
well i cant get the pldata so i'm stuck with using the DEI brand. it's really starting to annoy me that this thing doesn't want to work right. I even went through and rechecked all of my wire connections to see if i might of messed something up. So I need the help from someone ASAP.
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: October 21, 2003 at 4:24 PM
Use a relay and a resistor then like I suggested.
------------- J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: NowYaKnow
Date Posted: October 22, 2003 at 5:20 AM
A couple things...Where are you picking up the passlock wires? Also the black wire off of the 555L should go to the thin black wire up at the cylinder running with the yellow passlock wire..Do you have it connected to that wire? Also make sure you have the wires right as far as which one goes to the keyside of the cut wire and which one goes to the other side. Double check all your other connections on the 555L..make sure it's getting power/ignition/and a (-) out on the blue/black wire. Violet and BLACK/ white you don't need. Your using the yellow and BLACK / YELLOW wires to interupt the yellow passlock wire correct? I know sounds basic, but a lot of times it turns out to be the dumb stuff that's right in front of your face..
Posted By: godsegoizhuge
Date Posted: October 22, 2003 at 8:37 AM
Yep, everything is going to the right places and held in place with solder then taped then has a ziptie over top of that to make sure it really stays put. I've heard from some people that there's a difference between the 4 cylinder and the V6 grand am's, something 'bout the computer is different between the cars, is that true?
Posted By: godsegoizhuge
Date Posted: November 03, 2003 at 3:07 PM
We decided to try the PLXR bypass module from bypass kits.com and it's still doing the same exact thing. Could one of the ignition wires not be energizing like it should and thats causing it to not want to start correctly? Any help now will be really nice and helpful.
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