ford bypass problem
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=20613
Printed Date: May 17, 2024 at 6:54 PM
Topic: ford bypass problem
Posted By: RAID
Subject: ford bypass problem
Date Posted: October 26, 2003 at 9:09 PM
Hello, I installed a Prestige APS785 in a 2003 Escape. When I arm the system it also arms the stock alarm. When I disarm it, it doesn't disarm the stock alarm and the horn goes off everytime I open the door. If I disarm it then hit the unlock button on the factory remote and open the door it is fine. The wires I used from the factory was the dark blue/green wire in the harness going down next the the fuse box that was suggested in earlier posts. The lock and unlock wires in the same harness he suggested worked fine. I used the disarm wire from the Prestige that is pulsed ground output before start, 1 second at 300mA. Is this the correct factory wire or is it not enough from the Prestige? The other wires I have from the Prestige are pulsed ground output after start, aftershutdown, and during start (crank).
Also the remote start will not work unless the key is near or in the ignition. I tried both locations and it worked. With real good range too! Do I need a transponder module for this vehicle? Is this the PATS?
Thank you for your help
Replies:
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 26, 2003 at 9:21 PM
The wire I have for the OEM disarm is blue/lt green @ the DKP or 26 pin plug @ GEM. You used the correct wire from the Prestige, but did you put it to the right disarm wire on the Escape ?
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: RAID
Date Posted: October 26, 2003 at 9:39 PM
Thank you. I also had trouble finding the door trigger wire. Where can I find this?
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 26, 2003 at 10:04 PM
PURPLE / lt green @ the cluster or 22 pin plug @ GEM
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: ayalja123
Date Posted: October 27, 2003 at 1:39 PM
yes, you do need a tranponder
Posted By: RAID
Date Posted: October 27, 2003 at 6:27 PM
Should I use the Audiovox bypass unit instead of a universal one? I am looking at the ASTBM. It says it is for the Ford PATS. Would this be the correct unit to us?. Thank you Velocity Motors for the information. Is the "cluster" that you refer to in the driver kick panel near the fuse box? I also don't know where the GEM is located.
thank you all for your help
Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: October 27, 2003 at 6:59 PM
i believe you will need a bypass for a "pats 3". and be sure to read the info completely before you hook it up, or it gets tradgic.
Posted By: RAID
Date Posted: October 27, 2003 at 7:40 PM
Thanks for the warning! Is this the unit you are talking about Ford PATS3
Posted By: RAID
Date Posted: October 27, 2003 at 8:14 PM
I just checked the Ford website and it says SecuriLock Passive Anti-Theft System and a Perimeter Alarm ford escape
I was also reading about keys losing their programming or the system freezing when it sees 2 different keys in the ignition. What is your suggestion for brands?
Thanks for your input
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 27, 2003 at 11:15 PM
The cluster is the dash and the GEM on this vehicle is located behind the center console on the floor. Pull off the black panel to the right of the gas pedal, there will be carpet covering it. The plugs face the driver side of the vehicle. The EPATS the Escape has you will need 2 working keys to program and you will need PKU-F1 module to properly bypass the EPATS key. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: ayalja123
Date Posted: October 28, 2003 at 2:17 PM
i find it so much esier to use a universal transponder and living the key in the transponder unit.just make sure you make the ring stable around the key ring, and you will need to use a relay to turn the bypass on ,because the ground coming from the rs is not enough.
Posted By: RAID
Date Posted: October 28, 2003 at 4:41 PM
By leaving a key in the universal transponder wont that cause problems when you use the other key to take over the system. The ignition will see 2 different codes. I have read on this forum about codes "freezing" and other problems. It was suggested that the correct way to do this is to use a keyless transponder. This is my girlfriends truck and I don't want her stranded because keys got deprogrammed or it sees two different codes. Any suggestions would be great!!
I must give credit to every person that has helped me in my journey!! You all are very intelligent people. All of this electronic equipment is crazy stuff and you guys know your sh*t. I am a mason and my day consists of stone and concrete. I would love to spend a day in the shop with you guys to see how you do all that custom work with tv's in the visor and headrests. That is just mind blowing! Never stop doing what you do!! It is very impressive.
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 29, 2003 at 8:51 AM
Not is you use the keysense option on the module ( TBKII or TBKIII ) where the module has a wire that is hooked up to the key sense wire and will auto shut off when it detects the other key in the cylinder.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
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