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98 Grand Prix Remote Start

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: October 31, 2024 at 6:10 PM


Topic: 98 Grand Prix Remote Start

Posted By: gtzquad4
Subject: 98 Grand Prix Remote Start
Date Posted: December 31, 2003 at 5:56 PM

Hi.  I'm in the middle of installing a remote start in my 98 Grand Prix and picked up a couple of diodes for the door trigger wires from Radio Shack.  All they had were Zener 1 Watt in 5.1, 6.2 and 9V so I picked up a set of each as tomorrow is New Years and nothing will be open  :(

Please tell me that these will work...

Do I even need to connect the passenger door switch??  If not, then I assume only the driver's door will be protected by the factory alarm....correct? 

Next tell me that I have the correct wires, Tan (C1)(Driver Door Ajar Switch Input (GND)) and Dk. Blue (C3) Passenger Door Ajar Switch Input (GND).

Thanks Very Much,

Tony




Replies:

Posted By: ck auto
Date Posted: December 31, 2003 at 6:22 PM
hi is your car a standard or auto

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good luck
kirk




Posted By: xetmes
Date Posted: December 31, 2003 at 6:25 PM

no dont use a zener, When a zener is reversed biased it will breakdown at the rated voltage. Meaning that it will conduct in reverse as long as the reverse voltage across it is equal to its rated breakdown.

In other words if you use a 9V zener it will behave the same in forward bias mode, it will have about .7V across it. If 12V is applied backwards it will have 9V across it, not 12.... You could try to use the 9V zener, i would not recommend it but it may work for you in a pinch until you get another





Posted By: gtzquad4
Date Posted: December 31, 2003 at 6:55 PM

ck auto wrote:

hi is your car a standard or auto

Hi Kirk, it's an automatic, as are all Grand Prixs from 97+, not sure about the previous body design.

Tony





Posted By: ck auto
Date Posted: December 31, 2003 at 6:59 PM

hi if your just putting rs in you have no need for the door triggers to be hooked up



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good luck
kirk




Posted By: bradleonard
Date Posted: December 31, 2003 at 7:11 PM
As long as we are talking about diodes, what about 12 volt Zenar Diodes?

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werd




Posted By: xetmes
Date Posted: December 31, 2003 at 9:40 PM
Well I wouldnt want a 12V zener for this purpose either, the problem is zener diodes act differently that what you want, they are made to breakdown at a certain reverse bias voltage, you dont want that to happen. If you use a zener that is higher that your supply will ever go it will work the same, but you are using it as a standard diode so in practice it will never act as a zener...




Posted By: gtzquad4
Date Posted: December 31, 2003 at 10:08 PM
ck auto wrote:

hi if your just putting rs in you have no need for the door triggers to be hooked up


Good answer, don't know what I was thinking. posted_image First RS install. 

Ok then, here's what I need to confirm for wires and colors on my 98 Grand Prix GT.

Wires from the RS are (-) Unlock, (-) Lock, (-) Disarm, (-) Arm.  Can someone tell me what wires these go to, I'm pretty sure they're all located at the BCM in drivers kick panel.

Here's what I have figured...(-) Unlock goes to (-) White    (-) Lock goes to (-) L. Blue   However, I'm not sure where to route the wires from the RS for Factory Arm (-) and Factory Disarm (-).  Do these two go to the same connections as well???

Thanks,

Tony





Posted By: gtzquad4
Date Posted: December 31, 2003 at 10:33 PM
gtzquad4 wrote:

ck auto wrote:

hi if your just putting rs in you have no need for the door triggers to be hooked up


Good answer, don't know what I was thinking. posted_image First RS install. 

Ok then, here's what I need to confirm for wires and colors on my 98 Grand Prix GT.

Wires from the RS are (-) Unlock, (-) Lock, (-) Disarm, (-) Arm.  Can someone tell me what wires these go to, I'm pretty sure they're all located at the BCM in drivers kick panel.

Here's what I have figured...(-) Unlock goes to (-) White    (-) Lock goes to (-) L. Blue   However, I'm not sure where to route the wires from the RS for Factory Arm (-) and Factory Disarm (-).  Do these two go to the same connections as well???

Thanks,

Tony


K, think I got the factory arm/disarm figured, haven't tried it yet though.

Arm is the same as lock at BCM (-) white and Disarm is also at BCM (-) ORG/BLK...

Correct?





Posted By: gtzquad4
Date Posted: December 31, 2003 at 10:48 PM
gtzquad4 wrote:

gtzquad4 wrote:

ck auto wrote:

hi if your just putting rs in you have no need for the door triggers to be hooked up


Good answer, don't know what I was thinking. posted_image First RS install. 

Ok then, here's what I need to confirm for wires and colors on my 98 Grand Prix GT.

Wires from the RS are (-) Unlock, (-) Lock, (-) Disarm, (-) Arm.  Can someone tell me what wires these go to, I'm pretty sure they're all located at the BCM in drivers kick panel.

Here's what I have figured...(-) Unlock goes to (-) White    (-) Lock goes to (-) L. Blue   However, I'm not sure where to route the wires from the RS for Factory Arm (-) and Factory Disarm (-).  Do these two go to the same connections as well???

Thanks,

Tony


K, think I got the factory arm/disarm figured, haven't tried it yet though.

Arm is the same as lock at BCM (-) white and Disarm is also at BCM (-) ORG/BLK...

Correct?


EDIT: Lock at BCM is L.Blue not White.





Posted By: gtzquad4
Date Posted: January 01, 2004 at 8:51 AM

Could someone tell me if I have the right wires?  98 Grand Prix. 

Can I use (-) Lock (L. Blue) at BCM for ARM and is (-) Disarm (ORN/BLK) at BCM???

Thanks,

Tony





Posted By: gtzquad4
Date Posted: January 01, 2004 at 8:53 AM
P.S.  This is for remote start install, factory arm/disarm wires from RS, both (-).




Posted By: ck auto
Date Posted: January 01, 2004 at 11:05 AM
hi disarm is ORANGE / black in drivers kick the lock is light blue the unlock is white the alarm arms with lock just pulse the door trigger with lock and it will arm

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good luck
kirk




Posted By: gtzquad4
Date Posted: January 03, 2004 at 2:28 PM

Hi, I've finished installing my ProStart remote starter into my 1998 Grand Prix.  Everything works great except for one thing.  The lock button on the Remote Start remote locks and unlocks the doors but doesn't arm or disarm the factory alarm system. 

Also, if I use the Factory remote to arm the alarm/lock the doors, and I use the Remote Start remote to start the vehicle, the horn beeps once (alarm goes off) before the car starts....which it does normally.

For the lock input I used the L. Blue wire at BCM and for unlock I used the white wire at same location.  For factory disarm, I used the ORANGE / black wire at same location.

Thanks for any help,

Tony





Posted By: gtzquad4
Date Posted: January 04, 2004 at 6:58 PM

Hi, I've finished installing my ProStart remote starter into my 1998 Grand Prix.  Everything works great except for one thing.  The lock button on the Remote Start remote locks and unlocks the doors but doesn't arm or disarm the factory alarm system. 

Also, if I use the GM remote to arm the alarm and lock the doors, and I use the Remote Start remote to start the vehicle, the horn beeps once (alarm goes off) before the car starts....which it does normally.

For the lock input I used the L. Blue wire at BCM and for unlock I used the white wire at same location.  For factory disarm, I used the ORANGE / black wire at same location.

Thanks for any help,

Tony





Posted By: BNLUIS
Date Posted: January 04, 2004 at 7:03 PM

 FCTRY ALARM ARM|arms on lock *2     |-  |drivers kick panel          |
|FCTRY ALRM DISARM|ORANGE / black        |-  |DKP 32 pin plug pin 5  

*2 The door trigger must be active to allow the factory alarm to arm



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Luis
Sound Waves
Is up to the installer to test all wires with a DMM whenever possible.





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