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1997 Chrysler Sebring Convertible

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=24727
Printed Date: August 06, 2025 at 5:56 AM


Topic: 1997 Chrysler Sebring Convertible

Posted By: erinh
Subject: 1997 Chrysler Sebring Convertible
Date Posted: January 16, 2004 at 9:30 PM

Does anyone know where to locate the Factory Disarm wire on this car? On the site it says that it is in the driver's kick panel, but I don't see anything down there. There is a big black connector under the left vent that has a GREEN/ orange wire - is this it?




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Posted By: erinh
Date Posted: January 16, 2004 at 9:33 PM
sorry, forgot to mention that it is a 16 pin connector, and also that there is 2 wires - both GREEN/ orange that come together and go in the same hole. this it?




Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: January 16, 2004 at 9:35 PM
OEM Alarm Arm L GREEN/ ORANGE 20 PIN BLACK CONNECTOR *
OEM Alarm Disarm L GREEN/ ORANGE IN DRIVER KICK PANEL


* L GREEN/ ORANGE Single Wire Will Arm & Disarm OEM Alarm. 12 VDC (+) Thru A 470 Ohm Resistor Will Disarm OEM Alarm. 12 VDC (+) Thru A 940 Ohm Resistor Will Arm OEM Alarm.

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Posted By: erinh
Date Posted: January 16, 2004 at 9:40 PM

Sorry not clear about your reply... does this sound like the right wire that I described? I do not see any 20 pin black connectors. If I hook it up to the disarm wire, will I need resistors? Where did you get this information, I was just going by the12volt's listing for the car and it made no mention of this. Hope you can clarify.





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 16, 2004 at 10:00 PM

Alarm arm & disarmis a lt GREEN/ orange wire (+) at the DKP above hood release .Factory alarm arm requires a positive trigger with a 940 ohm resistor wired in series. Factory alarm disarm requires a positive trigger with a 470 ohm resistor wired in series. You DO need two relays to do this.



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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: erinh
Date Posted: January 16, 2004 at 10:18 PM
thanks for the reply. i was checking out the wiring diagrams from bulldog (the unit i'm hooking up is a bulldog rs114) at https://bulldogsecurity.com/New%20Wires/New%20Wires/Wires/sebrc96-98.htm and it has a few different wires listed than this site. also it makes no mention of needing relays or resistors (only for the door lock/unlock wire). this is just a remote start/keyless entry, not an alarm unit if that makes a difference. i have a diagram on how to hook up the relays/resistors for the unlock/lock, but can you help me with a diagram on the alarm like you described? by the way this is a 97 convertible.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 16, 2004 at 10:22 PM
The relay diagram will be the same as for the locking/unlocking wires. The only thing different will be the target wire for pin 30 will be the LIGHT GREEN/ ORANGE and the resistance for each relay is different.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: erinh
Date Posted: January 16, 2004 at 10:27 PM
okay luckily i have the relays to do it with already, one more thing if you happened to have worked on one of these cars before. on teh back of this connector it is a lt GREEN/ orange wire, and on the front where it plugs in there are 2 lt GREEN/ orange wires coming together going in to the hole off the connector - does it matter which of these wires i use? or which would be preferred?




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 16, 2004 at 10:37 PM

Does the door locks work when you unplug the connector ? If it doesn't then you have the right connector, now if the 2 wires go into the same pin ( ??? ) then I would say go to the back of the plug where it exits into one wire, cut this wire and test the door locks again. If they do not work, then reattach the wire with the two leads coming off the relays to this wire.

Remember that it is a LIGHT GREEN/ Orange wire not the GREEN/ Orange or the Dark GREEN/ Orange.



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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: erinh
Date Posted: January 16, 2004 at 11:10 PM

I tried unplugging that connector and the door locks still worked fine. i'm really new to this, and this is only my second install - sorry for bugging you guys so much. so with the factory alarm unplugged it should stop the power locks from working right? i tried taking a picture of the area of the connections:

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the red arrow is pointing the plugin under the vent i thought was the right one, but the locks still worked after unplugging. down and to the left of that connector is a bunch of connectors - but none are black or have 20 pins... am i even looking in the right area? i found a few GREEN/ orange wires, but none that i would call light green.





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 17, 2004 at 8:14 AM
That's not the right location. The plug is located at the rear of the fuse box. The plug that you have there is more than 20 pins as well from the looks of it.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: erinh
Date Posted: January 17, 2004 at 3:48 PM
is it possible to just disable the factory alarm totally? would just putting the resistor for disarm hooked up to it work keep it disarmed at all times?




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 17, 2004 at 5:21 PM
You can permanently disarm the OEM alarm but eventually it would drain your battery because it requires a (+) pulse to a 470 ohm resistor.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: erinh
Date Posted: January 17, 2004 at 6:18 PM

Okay well thats no good. I finally found the harness that had the dark GREEN/ orange, GREEN/ orange, and light GREEN/ orange. i can tell which one is the dark green, but the other 2 look almost exactly the same color. i tried cutting the one that is second from the left, to see if it would keep the door locks from working, but when i plugged it back in the alarm went off - and it wouldn't cut off with the key like normal, so i had to strip back that wire and reconnect it before it would let me disable the alarm (boy was that fun with the horn honking right in my ear the whole time). am i correct in thinking that cutting the right wire would not set off the alarm, just disable the key locks from working? i'll try the other GREEN/ orange next...

by the way this is a bulldog rs114 remote starter. they told me today that i didn't need to use the relays for the door locks because it has them builtin and to only use the resistors. i haven't actually hooked this up yet because i want to get the remote start working without setting off the alarm first. is it possible this unit also has the relays already for the factory alarm disable wire and i can just use the resistors?

thanks so much for being patient and helpful jeff!





Posted By: erinh
Date Posted: January 17, 2004 at 6:23 PM
by the way, one more question. since this is just a remote starter and it only has a factory alarm disable wire - would i need to hook it up so that it can disable and also enable? if it only needs to disable, can you tell me how to hook it up - like if i need just 1 relay and the 470 ohm resistor.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 18, 2004 at 12:47 AM
If you want it to only disable during remote start, then just use one relay and the 470 ohm resistor. If Bulldog thinks that the current from their remote starter's door locking output is sufficient to engage the (+) pulse for the Chrysler's system, then do it without a relay. The worst case scenario is that it will not work.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: erinh
Date Posted: January 18, 2004 at 3:24 AM

yah i guess i only need it to disable during remote start and if it needs it, during remote unlock. i guess i will go try the other GREEN/ orange wire in the morning. hopefully it will work *crosses fingers*

does it sound like i tried the wrong wire since it set off the alarm after i cut that one wire (the one i thought was light GREEN/ orange)? by the way if i need to hook it up with just one relay and the 470 ohm resistor, how would i hook it up - like what going to what pins?

sorry for being so much trouble jeff, i have some money, but not much and would like to pay for your time helping me - would you prefer me to donate the money to this site or through your site? guess i can buy a wiring diagram from your site (even though i don't think i need it at this point).





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 18, 2004 at 10:08 AM
erinh, wire the one relay like this: https://www.velocitymotorsport.com/images/install_notes/143.jpg ( use the relay on the right ). The value on pin 30 will be 470 ohms. No need to pay for this support, if you would like to, just donate to this site, but please do not feel pressured in doing so.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: erinh
Date Posted: January 18, 2004 at 1:53 PM

okay i will try that now. i am pretty sure i have the right wire now because i tested again this morning - and this is the only GREEN/ orange out of the 3 in that harness that change voltages when i lock/unlock with the key.

i am going to try hooking it up with a relay and resistor like you said inthe above post - but i was hoping you could tell me if i have this right... scared of damaging something...

87 & 86: to 12v constant (going to use the same wire in the ignition harness that i used for the rs's power) - what rated fuse should i use?

87a: not used

85: to factory alarm shutdown wire (FASD) (-) from remote starter's harness

30: to a 470 ohm resistor and then connecting to the light GREEN/ orange wire on the bottom of the fuse box





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 18, 2004 at 2:33 PM
You got it !! Go and hook up that relay posted_image

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: erinh
Date Posted: January 18, 2004 at 4:03 PM

awesome it worked!

now i have a new problem though :(

i never disconnected the battery and never cut any of the wires in the ignition harness (i had read this can cause the airbag to go off and/or the air bag light to come on in the car), but i did unplug the harness that had the factory alarm wire in it and cut that wire and spent quite a long time hooking the relay up before i plugged it back in. now the airbag light is on in the car after it cranks. it comes on about 3 seconds after the car starts to run, and it never did this before i put the rs in it. did i cause this by leaving that harness unplugged for too long?

is it safe to drive the car? or is there a chance the airbag may go off now?

also does anyone know how much the dealership will charge to turn this light off?





Posted By: erinh
Date Posted: January 18, 2004 at 4:17 PM

oops. i think i found the problem.

when the alarm went off last night i pulled out the fuse going to the horn so that it wouldn't go off in my ear again. i just remember that and put it back in, now the airbag light cuts off before i crank and does not come back on.

jeff you are the greatest!!!!!

now off to hook up the door lock/unlock and i'll be done posted_image



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