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F150, Giordon TOP686 Alarm

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: F150, Giordon TOP686 Alarm

Posted By: rgbutler
Subject: F150, Giordon TOP686 Alarm
Date Posted: January 23, 2004 at 9:54 AM

I made a mistake, trying to save a few bucks and ordered an alarm system from Hong Kong.  Someone shoot me!  The instruction manual, or as they put it the English Publishment, is translated very poorly from Japanese I think, and therefore impossible to understand.  On top of this, the diagrams are 2" x 3" and don't blowup well.  Can anyone point me to a source to find good diagrams and instructions for this unit.  I have found several good posts on my truck, F150, but nothing on this unit.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!



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Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: January 23, 2004 at 3:20 PM
do you have a link to the unit? I am not sure how to get any info on it since i am sure no one has heard of it.

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J Rilla

Owner/Installer




Posted By: rgbutler
Date Posted: January 25, 2004 at 8:12 AM
do you mean the website?  The website I went to is https://www.giordon.com.cn/.  They are on Chinesse New Year until Feb.  I scan the image of the drawing and enlarged it to read it better, but it doesn't help much.  I have the basic unit functioning, without the remote start and a few extra connections.  One of the connections is labeled "Battery horn".  I tried connecting it to the horn wire, but that turned on the ignition all the time, without the starting circuit connected.  It also calls out for connections to: hand brake switch, foot brake switch and shooting device?  It already has a connection to the siren, so what is the shouting device?  It may be an option?  If anyone has dealt with poor translations before, maybe they can help.  Bottom line, buy from USA and keep life simple!  thanks




Posted By: rgbutler
Date Posted: January 25, 2004 at 8:20 AM

posted_image

Here is a scan, small do to posting limitations.  Can anyone offer any suggested translations?  thanks a bunch.





Posted By: tblanning
Date Posted: January 25, 2004 at 8:30 AM

try scanning again and blow it up bigger

you can email it to me and i will try to help

tblanning@verizon.net





Posted By: Duston
Date Posted: January 25, 2004 at 5:07 PM
hey dude, i just had some one buy this same unit and i told him i would try putting it in for him. No other installers will mess with it,  lol..  Junk, i got all the wires conected the alarm works fine, locks work but the starter won't work.. It think there is a trick to the key pad when starting it, First it has to be unlocked then within two seconds press start flash button-horn will beep 4 times and lights will blind once, then hold start button for 2 seconds..   Try that...  have fun    lol.....

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Factory security systems suck!




Posted By: rgbutler
Date Posted: January 27, 2004 at 6:36 AM
duston, what is the battery horn?  You said you connected all the wires - this one doesn't make any sense.  What about the violet wire going to the coil?  Most of the time the cars will have electronic ignition rather than a coil and carb.  thanks




Posted By: iskidoo
Date Posted: January 27, 2004 at 7:44 AM
Battery horn is for a back-up battery supply for the alarm...If I had to guess.
As for the coil, I'm sure this must be your tach source. Even fuel injected vehicles usually have some kind of coil or injector wire that you can use for an A/C tach reference signal when running.
hand brake switch...maybe it's Manual transmission compatible.
Foot brake switch...brake
That's all I can guess. The shooting device...Maybe it has an optional gun turret...posted_image Or did it say shouting? If so might be for a voice module that you can program your voice to warn away during alarming.




Posted By: ywdb
Date Posted: January 27, 2004 at 8:01 PM
Hi rgbutler,I have Giordon Top 686 Alarm,too.
So may-be I can teach you this alarm's wiring diagrams.

RED / Black:Battery horn-----back-up battery supply for alarm, or battery back-up siren use.

Violet:Going to the coil-----This wire conect to tach.

Blue:door trigger(-) input

Red:Shooting device-----This is Alarm pagers use.

White:Key on trigger(+12V) input

Orange:Foot brake (+12V) input---This is Ignition controlled door locks(Start door locks) use only.

Green:Hand brake switch(-) input----This is safety shutdown input wire. This wire must be conect. If you don't conect this wire, remote starter cannot use.

Yellow:Stater kill relay(-) output when system triggered.




Posted By: rgbutler
Date Posted: January 27, 2004 at 8:26 PM

thanks everyone, hopefully all of this info will help me finish the job this weekend. 

Question for "ywdb".  Being from Japan you may have a manual written in a different language that make more sense.  The way I have my alarm connected now, if the doors open the lights flash?  This can't be correct.  It also chirps 3 times when i get out of the truck, without arming.  Any ideas why?  Did you connect to the turn signals or lights for the brown wires?  thanks a bunch.





Posted By: ywdb
Date Posted: January 27, 2004 at 9:04 PM
Hi rgbutler,

This alarm system is made in china. My manual is English, too. May be same with your manual.
But I have Chinese manual, too. So I read Chinese manual, and install it.(When I visited China buy it.)

>if the doors open the lights flash?
Yes, doors open the lights flash. This is "Warning for roadside stop" function.

>It also chirps 3 times when i get out of the truck, without arming.
Yes, this is warn you to arm the system. If you don't hear this chirps, you will parked car with the door close after door open again(this time light will flash) and door close again, the chirps is canceled.

The brown wire is conect to turn signal(left and right).




Posted By: rgbutler
Date Posted: January 31, 2004 at 3:26 PM
Hi there, finally getting around to trying to connect the rest of the alarm.  I really don't understand the green wire shown to go to the hand brake switch (-) input.  In the diagram it shows the green wire going to a switch and the wire connected to "The direction 12V light".  and the other side of that switch going to ground.  Is this the emergency brake?  Is it the same as the "foot brake"?  or is it the rear turn signal connections?  thanks




Posted By: iskidoo
Date Posted: January 31, 2004 at 3:52 PM
It might be a Manual transmission compatable remote starter. If so that wire would be part of the safety reservation mode needed to safely remote start a manual.




Posted By: rgbutler
Date Posted: January 31, 2004 at 3:57 PM

With the wire connections I have now, the engine turns over but does not start.  It starts right up with the key okay.  Any ideas?

Rodney





Posted By: Duston
Date Posted: January 31, 2004 at 8:09 PM
hey what up Rg, the wire that says foot brake (green wire) just ground it to your frame or where ever your other ground wire is. If your having problems with it not staying running recheck your two Ing. wires need both of them to start the truck and 1 acc. wire.    later

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Factory security systems suck!




Posted By: gARY RICH
Date Posted: February 01, 2004 at 6:31 AM
HELP
Hi to you all.
Could someone help me out here,as i can`t understand the ignition part,I`ave got a ford mondeo 95 lx,on my ignition 0,1,2,3 wires from ignition are green,yellow,RED / yellow,red,grey/white,
What wire from the alarm goes where on the ignition?

CHEERS




Posted By: Duston
Date Posted: February 01, 2004 at 7:57 AM
hey  Ywdb,  thanks for the wires you posted they helped, but what about the starter wires?  two reds are 12V - yellow is starter - and i don't know what the other two browns and one blue are for ?  Are the two browns Ing. wires or acc/heater wires? thanks

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Factory security systems suck!




Posted By: rgbutler
Date Posted: February 01, 2004 at 2:46 PM

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the Yellow is for Start (set), Blue is Ignition 1, Brown ignition 2, Brown ignition 3.  Red +12 V.  One of the brown's is different, marked with blacking writing other with white.  Does the order of these two make a difference?  Is the blue actually ignition 1 or do I have the order incorrect.  there are 4 wires shown to the switch, but only 3 points indicated on the switch? thanks





Posted By: Duston
Date Posted: February 01, 2004 at 5:41 PM
hey butler, i think i got it figured out.  yellow-start, reds-12v, blue-Acc, browns- Ing 1 and Ing 2..............try that out peace.

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Factory security systems suck!




Posted By: ywdb
Date Posted: February 01, 2004 at 7:47 PM
Hi rgbutler,

Red wire---connect to 12V
Blue wire---connect to Accessory in Ignition harness
Brown wire---connect to Ignition
Brown wire---connect to Second Ignition
Yellow wire---connect to Starter wire in Ignition harness

How to use this alarms remote starter?

Must be push twice "Start Key".

>I really don't understand the green wire shown to go to the hand brake switch (-) input. In the diagram it shows the green wire going to a switch and the wire connected to "The direction 12V light".

This wire connect to Hand brake switch.
"The direction 12V light"; This mean is Hand break warning light in driver dash lamp.
And this diaglam have mistake. Light other side must be going to 12V it can be working.

This green wire connect to grand direct,then the system can be working.(But this is no good advice.)




Posted By: gARY RICH
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 11:35 AM
Hi to you all
Can someone help me out again,
The engine broken circuit return,
I have a relay with wire`s 87a green, 86 yellow, 85 white, 30 green,
so what wire goes where ?

thank you for your help so far.

cheers




Posted By: ywdb
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 10:41 PM
Hi gARY RICH,

85 white---connect to Ignition#1
86 yellow---connect to yellow wire from alarm system
30 green---connect to Key side of starter wire
87a green---connect to Starter motor side of starter wire

Good luck!




Posted By: gARY RICH
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 10:50 AM
Hi
Do all the wires have to be connected, before i can test anything.
Like the ignition.
cheers





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