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Door trigger problem with 03 eclipse

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Topic: Door trigger problem with 03 eclipse

Posted By: FRED ANTHONY
Subject: Door trigger problem with 03 eclipse
Date Posted: January 25, 2004 at 6:01 PM

2003 eclipse, I have everything up and running but the door trigger, this is supposed to set off the alarm when the door is opened right? I have the Green wire from the alarm, viper 790vx, running to the GREEN/ YELLOW above fuses and still nothing when I arm, wait, then open door?
Fred.



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Posted By: tblanning
Date Posted: January 25, 2004 at 9:07 PM

is this same wire you using

Dome  Lights/Superv:

GREEN/ Orange (-)

3 pin plug above fuses





Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: January 25, 2004 at 10:16 PM
I show RED / green at courtesy light under the dash

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J Rilla

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Posted By: FRED ANTHONY
Date Posted: January 26, 2004 at 10:17 AM
Well I have the dome light supervision hooked up, GREEN/ orange, the light come on when I open door, but the alarm wont trigger.




Posted By: FRED ANTHONY
Date Posted: January 26, 2004 at 10:21 AM

jrilla wrote:

I show RED / green at courtesy light under the dash

GREEN/ red is door unlock motor. And yes GREEN/ orange on 3 pin above fuses, for dome supervision. I have the BLACK/ white from the alarm going here.. Do I need to connect to both? Domelight supervision and - door trigger. Right now I have the green from viper 790vx H1 going to the  GREEN/ YELLOW above fuses, and the BLACK/ white from alarm going to the GREEN/ orange. 





Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: January 26, 2004 at 1:29 PM
Dome light supervision means that when you disarm the alarm, it will turn on your dome light for 30 seconds if you have it installed properly. Your door trigger wire from the Viper which you have identified as green, needs to be soldered to the dome light wire on the vehicle. I show that the dome light wire on the 2003 Mitsubishi Eclipse is RED / Green at the courtesy light under the dash. Thank you for informing me that the unlock wire is GREEN/ Red, the lock wire is Purple just in case you were wondering.

If there is no RED / Green wire at the courtesy light, then you need to test the wires at the light to see which wire switches to ground when the door is open. Then you need to take your green (-) door trigger input wire from the Viper 790XV and connect it to that wire.

Good Luckposted_image

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J Rilla

Owner/Installer




Posted By: FRED ANTHONY
Date Posted: January 26, 2004 at 8:41 PM

Alright what I did is take it right from the door switch itself, it is a light green wire..but only the driver door triggers the alarm, could they be seperate, driver and pass, would I have to diode isolate each then run it to the green input into the alarm?? Thanks.

Fred.





Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: January 26, 2004 at 9:41 PM
Thats one way to do it. You will need to trace the passenger wire from the switch in the door jamb though. Then yes you will need to diode isolate them.

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J Rilla

Owner/Installer




Posted By: FRED ANTHONY
Date Posted: January 27, 2004 at 8:18 AM

Cool jrilla, thanks for all your help man, you've been a life saver. Real quik, I only have the drivers dor hooked up and every once in a while when armed it will flash the door icon on the pager. Sometimes it won't?? But I tried twice today, unlock, shut door, then arm and it shows the icon. Could this be because I only have one door wires up, or does the alarm really not know there should be more than one..Thanks a million.

fred.





Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: January 27, 2004 at 8:35 AM
It doesnt know how many doors you have hooked up. When you say the door icon flashes, do you mean that the alarm is being tripped, or do you mena it just flashes. On my unit (Not a DEI though), if the alarm was triggered, that zone's icon will flash after I arm the the system, or disarm, I dont remember. It does this to tell you that a zone had been violated. I guess in case you were out of range and didnt get the page. I dont know if that is the same thing you are seeing since I dont work with DEI stuff. Make note of when you see it. I wouldnt be too concerned as long as the alarm is not going off.

Read the user manual carefully it might mention something that will elighten you to why it is doing this. Most alarms will bypass a zone if the unit is armed and that zone has not been secured. So of you left a door ajar, it should let you know and if you dont fix it, it typically will bypass that zone leaving that door susceptable.

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J Rilla

Owner/Installer




Posted By: FRED ANTHONY
Date Posted: January 27, 2004 at 9:59 AM
Well yes and no. Okay the 790 has the little lcd pager remote, on that the car image. When I arm the system it shows a little door flashing on the lcd pager. In the manual it states the door icon will flash if the door is open when armed or being bypassed. But the door is 100% closed. This only happens on some locks. Other times it arms with no door icon, only arming icon. I spliced right into the wire at the door switch itself, I checked it with a DMM and it is showing the right voltage. Any clue, why is arming with bypass on the door or why the icon still shows sometimes? 




Posted By: FRED ANTHONY
Date Posted: January 27, 2004 at 10:05 AM

Sorry don't know if I can edit posts..lol..BTW the alarm is not triggered. It arms fine, only the lcd will show door, and siren will chirp once more. You think I should just try to find that damned GREEN/ YELLOW that I orignally tapped into? Also do I need both domelight super vision and door trigger wired up. Thanks again.

Fred.





Posted By: FRED ANTHONY
Date Posted: January 27, 2004 at 2:27 PM
Bumpin it up for jrilla or anyone who can help me out..




Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: January 27, 2004 at 2:47 PM
Do you even have a little light under your dash?

If so, test the two wires. If one is negative when the door is open only, then that is your only door trigger wire needed.

If not, then I'll think look for some further info, unless you can find that GREEN/ YELLOW wire you mentioned.

Like I said before, Domelight supervision turns your dome light on for about 30 seconds after you disarm your alarm. If you like that feature then install it. But this is a secondary issue since you haven't found the wire needed to do this, since it is the same wire you need for your door trigger.

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J Rilla

Owner/Installer




Posted By: FRED ANTHONY
Date Posted: January 27, 2004 at 3:52 PM

What?? Lol I do have the wire for the domelight supervison, all the lights come on when the door is open and stay on for a bit..your saying use the same wire for the door trigger..All the wiring diag. I have show a different wire..I will try it and see what happens.





Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: January 27, 2004 at 4:20 PM
Um, when you say that the domelight comes on when you open the door, that isnt related to the Vipers domelight supervision out, because every car has that regardless of whether or not an alarm is installed right? I mean if you disconnected that wire from the viper, your lights would still come on when you opened the door.

The dome light supervision output wire from the viper provides a (-) output for about 30 seconds after you press the unlock/disarm button, that is if you have that wire connected to the domelight wire on the car and it is connected properly, i.e. correct polarity and strong enough current.

What wire do you have your domelight output connected to on the car?



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J Rilla

Owner/Installer




Posted By: FRED ANTHONY
Date Posted: January 27, 2004 at 10:58 PM

I have BLACK/ white from 790 to GREEN/ orange..the domelights do stay on for about 30 seconds when I disarm, so that is working fine. Sorry if I am wasting your time..don't mean to. I guess I will try running the green from 790      (- door trigger) to the same wire (GREEN/ orange) that is used for domelight supervision. Thanks jrilla.

Fred.





Posted By: Teamrf
Date Posted: January 28, 2004 at 3:13 PM
Some times you can use the same wire as your door trigger for dome light supervision. Dome light supervision sometimes require an extra realay. It only requires a relay if the current draw is more than the alarm output. But if you already have this wire, and it's properly fuctioning...then try hooking up that BLACK/ white wire from the alarm to that wire as well. It should work...

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Posted By: Teamrf
Date Posted: January 28, 2004 at 3:15 PM
Hope that helps...

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