2002 Tahoe - Passlock II

BIG TROUBLES WITH CLIFFORD RS3.5 REMOTE START!!!   HELP!!!!!!!

About 9 months ago, I had a Clifford RS 3.5 installed in my '02 Z71 Tahoe and the remote start has never functioned properly since!!  It always starts fine, but when I get in the car, and turn the key to the "On" position, the security light comes-on EVERY TIME!!

Does anyone know what the problem is? I've paid 2 shops $$ so far to try and figure it out. They haven't yet.  The shop that did it claims that it's all setup right.  could my module just be bad?  I'm fairly certain that they put the RIGHT passlock II piece in. They even changed it to a different passlock piece to try and fix the problem.

ANY HELP WOULD BE AWESOME!!

Regards,

BigHairyGuy in Utah

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2002 Z71 Tahoe
Kenwood x979
(2) JL12W3's
Phoenix 500.4 & 800.1
MBQuart Qseries

-BigHairyGuy

does the car shut off or not run when the key put in?

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"Big" Mike
Double Take
Fremont, Ne
remember to check all your wires with a dmm not a test light!!
i take no responsibilty whatsoever for the vailidty of the info nor consequences thereof

did they sell you a DEI 555L to bypass passlock during remote start?

what bypass module are you using???

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2005 Toyota Corolla S
    1.8L VVT-i I-4
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Hey guys.

Thanks for the reponses.  I hate to say this.....but I'm not sure WHICH model of passlock II module they used. I'm basically just regurgitating what I've heard them saying while trying to fix it.  All I know is, I took my tahoe back to the installer because THIS PROBLEM STARTED AFTER ABOUT 3 MONTHS. When I took it back to him, he said "yeah.....i used a non-clifford passlock module and I wondered if this would start happening". (OR MAYBE HE SAID A NON-DEI module....I"m not sure). So he then put-in "the proper module" ;) But it didn't fix A THING. 

To answer your question BMF1000d -guy, the car always starts and runs fine....but the security light remains ON and solid until I turn-off the car and restart.  However, a couple of times right after this security light problem started, i would come-out to my car and it would be attempting to start itself over and over but couldn't completely start. So I'd get-in and try to start it with the key and the fuel-shut-off had been activated and I couldn't start it until putting the key in and turning it to the "ON" POSITION for about 30 seconds. The installer said this would reset the security fuel-shut-off. But that's only happened a couple times.

It just really seems like my stock GM system is treating my Clifford like a virus. It works but it seems like it knows there's something foreign in the system.

ONE OTHER THING THAT MAY HELP ---- just within the last few weeks, the remote start no longer beeps and signifies that I've inserted the key and turned-it to "ON". It originally would beep two short beeps when I would put the key in and put my foot on the break to drive away. BUt now, it no longer beeps and the remote start exhaust icon remains on the keyless remote indicator until I hit the "lock" button after I get out of the car and lock it.  So the entire time I'm driving, the "start" icon with the little exhaust smoke icon remains on the screen now. It seems like everything is getting progressively worse.

Anyway - sorry for the long explanations.  THANKS FOR THE INPUT --- KEEP SHOUTING MY WAY AND MAYBE I'LL BE ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT~!!

-BigHairyGuy

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2002 Z71 Tahoe
Kenwood x979
(2) JL12W3's
Phoenix 500.4 & 800.1
MBQuart Qseries

-BigHairyGuy

just a guess but did they hook up the 2nd ign? i belive its white wire in the ign harness that would do it or the second acc. wire would also do that i would think the brown acc wire have them check that

if best buy would have put it in, youd have a life time warranty on the labor performed on your vehicle.  did the shop you go to offer as a part of doing the install for you?

As for the wiring Circus Boy, I totally appreciate the input and I'll pass those questions along to the guy who's redoing my system this week (New Kenwood x979, new fiberglass box molded to match rear of tahoe, Sirius, etc. ;-)

As for the warranty questions SRoth, that's the sad news. The Clifford RS3.5 (as you may know) is one of the most expensive alarm systems and usually costs around $1000 with installation. I have a friend who owns a pretty big stereo shop and they ordered it for me for cost which was like $200. Then, I had another mom & pop shop who was doing my tint put the alarm in for $100. So I really did okay on the price and they're willing to keep trying to fix it......but they're not getting anywhere. I'd pay a guy $200 right now JUST to friggin' fix the thing!  lol

Anyway, Keep the brain-churn going. All the suggestions are well-appreciated.

-BigHairyOne

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2002 Z71 Tahoe
Kenwood x979
(2) JL12W3's
Phoenix 500.4 & 800.1
MBQuart Qseries

-BigHairyGuy

Hey,
Make sure you tell them to double check to make sure the 2nd ignition is connected. Also, the module we always use is available from crimestopper or omega and it is called a pl-data. I have NEVER had an issue with using this module for passlock II(only on malibus). this in my opinion is the best module you can use for this application.

by the way if yhe second ignition was not hooked up, your tranny would be history by now, what I think it is that the alamr is not deactivating the bypass module after you have inserted the key and stepped on the brake, and as far as the remote not beeping, I have had that happen before, you need to get a new remote to fix that, there is a glitch in their remotes and cannot be fixed.  when you step on the brake make sure that you hear the relays shut off, and if not then thei did not hook up your brake wwire or it got disconnected.

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2005 Toyota Corolla S
    1.8L VVT-i I-4
Always double check your wires with a DMM!!!
Do Not Use A Test Light!!!
MECP Certified Installer!
Best Buy 665 - IN IT TO WIN IT! TEAM MOBLE!

whoa there now, making my palms sweaty here.  I have the same truck.  It's been about five weeks now since I put in the RSX3.5.  So far, so good.  I used the same bypass module as supra1988.  I'd take it to a professional shop and have it looked at.

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Okay - the tranny comment scared me.  I don't understand how the alarm being hooked-up wrong would physically destroy my transmission...

Anyway, I'll take a look MYSELF tomorrow with the guys doing my system install. I wanna see PERSONALLY that these wires you guys are talking about are all hooked-up to the right terminals. Also, I'll check which passlock module I'm using. For some reason I remember something about 555L or something like that when we were originally discussing which one I didn't have when it was first put-in. They put a new module in like I said before and I'm wondering if that's the one you guys are talking about.

Thanks for all the input. Also, I think I lied to all of you concerning which MATRIX I have. I have the Matrix RS3. The reason I keep saying it's the matrix RS3.5 is because I had that BIG UGLY WHITE alarm remote that was as big as a cell phone. But it broke so I sent it to Clifford and they sent me the new RS3.5 remote (the smaller carbon-fiber looking one). So I keep thinking 3.5 when I talk about the alarm. Anyway, sorry for the confusion. I'm assuming the RS3 and RS3.5 are similar brains. (I HOPE SO - I DON'T WANT YOU ALL TO HATE ME FOR NOT TELLING IT RIGHT).

Cheers.

BigForestDwellerWithHair

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2002 Z71 Tahoe
Kenwood x979
(2) JL12W3's
Phoenix 500.4 & 800.1
MBQuart Qseries

-BigHairyGuy

as far as the tranny neing history, that is because if the installer did not hook up the second ignition, then the tranny would not be powered up with the rs, but would be yused duiring the idle, but if your tranny is still good after the time you had it, no need to sweat.

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2005 Toyota Corolla S
    1.8L VVT-i I-4
Always double check your wires with a DMM!!!
Do Not Use A Test Light!!!
MECP Certified Installer!
Best Buy 665 - IN IT TO WIN IT! TEAM MOBLE!