04 town and country
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: June 01, 2024 at 11:58 AM
Topic: 04 town and country
Posted By: godsegoizhuge
Subject: 04 town and country
Date Posted: February 10, 2004 at 4:57 PM
Got one coming in tomorrow for a remote start, is there anything out of the ordinary i should be aware of? I read that these have a new sentry key, which means the 555c is prolly not going to work, so what 'bout the 555u? Is that still a possibility or is that going to be a pain? The cars are for a chrysler dealership so they can get the keys for cheap.
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Posted By: mxxmikexx
Date Posted: February 10, 2004 at 10:58 PM
I just did an 02' last week, theyre not fun . they have 1 postitive starter wire and 1 negative starter wire that needs to see 180 ohms. negative trigger with a resistor for parking lights. more work than normal. have fun!!!!! heres all the info youll need. In the one i did, i got a blank key from howard keys and coded it and used it in a key box to bypass the transponder part.
Audiovox Tech Support 505737 FaxBack ID:
CHRYSLER TOWN & COUNTRY 2004 MINIVAN
Security Color Polarity Location
Battery LIGHT BLUE/RED (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 1 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter 1 YELLOW (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
All Door Trigger YELLOW/ORANGE (-) AT BCM 25 OF BK/GN
LF Latch VIOLET (-) PIN 6 OF BLACK/ WHITE 34 PIN AT BCM
RF Latch VIOLET/WHITE (-) PIN 7 OF BLACK/ WHITE 34 PIN AT BCM
LR Latch VIOLET/GRAY (-) PIN 8 OF BLACK/ WHITE 34 PIN AT BCM
RR Latch TAN/ORANGE (-) PIN 5 OF BLACK/ WHITE 34 PIN AT BCM
Trunk Trigger VIOLET/ORANGE (-) PIN 29 OF BLACK/ WHITE 34 PIN AT BCM
Hood Trigger VIOLET/LIGHT BLUE (-) PIN 30 OF BLACK/ WHITE 34 PIN AT BCM
Alarm Disarm VIOLET/LIGHT BLUE (-) 1.5 K RESISTOR TO DISARM & UNLOCK
Alarm Arm VIOLET/LIGHT BLUE (-) 2.0 K RESISTOR TO ARM & LOCK
Parking Lights WHITE/ BROWN (-) @HDL SWTCH GRND,THROUGH 5.3K OHM RESISTOR
- Note OR 2.1 OHM RESISTOR
Remote Start
Battery LIGHT BLUE/RED (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 1 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Accessory 1 VIOLET/ORANGE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS "16G WIRE"
Starter 1 YELLOW (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter 2 VIOLET/BROWN (-) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
- Note MUST USE RELAY TO ENHANCE GROUND, DURING CRANK ONLY, WITH 180 OHM RESISTOR.
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE 4 PIN AUXILARY HARNESS, ATTACH LT. BLUE IGNITION 3 TO 85, TAP OFF OF START
WIRE TO 86, GROUND THE 180 OHM RESISTOR AND ATTACH TO 87, CUT THE VIOLET/BROWN
Anti-Theft Descript TRANSPONDER
Key Sense LIGHT BLUE (-) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Tachometer DARK BLUE/GREEN (AC) PIN 11 AT PCM LFT CORNER OF ENGINE COMP.
Crankshaft Sensor BROWN / LIGHT BLUE (-) PIN 32 OF PCM LFT CORNER OF ENGINE COMP.
Camshaft Sensor BLUE/GRAY (-) PIN 33 OF PCM LFT CORNER OF ENGINE COMP.
Speed Sense DARK BLUE/ORANGE (AC) 66 OF PCM LFT CORNER OF ENG.COMP.2ND PLG
Parking Lights WHITE/ BROWN (-) @HDL SWTCH GRND,THROUGH 5.3K OHM RESISTOR
- Note OR 2.1 OHM RESISTOR
Brake Lights WHITE/ TAN (+) AT BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH
Reverse Lights WHITE/ LIGHT GREEN (+) PIN 9 OF BLACK/ GREEN 34 PIN AT BCM
Horn DARK GREEN/ VIOLET (-) STEERING COLUMN HARNESS
Doorlocks/Windows
Power Unlock VIOLET/DARK GREEN (-) PIN 21 AT BCM 2.0K
- Note USE 2KOHM RESISTOR TO UNLOCK THE DOORS
DR. SIDE SLIDER USES A 4.7 OHM RESISTOR TO OPEN & CLOSE (NEG PULSE)
PASS. SIDE SLIDER USES A 1.2 OHM RESISTOR TO OPEN & CLOSE (NEG PULSE)
PowerLock VIOLET/DARK GREEN (-) PIN 21 AT BCM 5.3K
- Note USE 5.6KOHM RESISTOR TO LOCK THE DOORS
DR. SIDE SLIDER USES A 4.7 OHM RESISTOR TO OPEN & CLOSE (NEG PULSE)
PASS. SIDE SLIDER USES A 1.2 OHM RESISTOR TO OPEN & CLOSE (NEG PULSE)
Driver Mtr Unlock TAN/LIGHT GREEN (REV) PIN 28 OF BLACK/ GREEN 34 PIN AT BCM
Driver Mtr Lock TAN/WHITE (REV) PIN 10 OF BLACK/ GREEN 34 PIN AT BCM
Pas Mtr Unlock TAN/BROWN (REV) PIN 26 OF BLACK/ GREEN 34 PIN AT BCM
LF Window Up ORANGE / LIGHT GREEN (+)
LF Window Dn ORANGE / WHITE (+) AT DRIVERS SWITCH
RF Window Up ORANGE / TAN (+) AT DRIVERS SWITCH
RF Window Dn ORANGE / DARK GREEN (+) AT DRIVERS SWITCH
LR Window Up ORANGE / DARK BLUE (+) AT DRIVERS SWITCH
LR Window Dn ORANGE / LIGHT BLUE (+) AT DRIVERS SWITCH
RR Window Up ORANGE / GRAY (+) AT DRIVERS SWITCH
RR Window Dn GRAY/DARK GREEN (+) AT DRIVERS SWITCH
Convenience
LF Pk Lt Bulb WHITE/ BROWN (+)
RF Pk Lt Bulb (+) WHITE/ ORANGE
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Mike Battaglia
Specialized Car Audio
Bensenville IL 60106
Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 1:20 AM
The late model Chrysler minivans are as much of a pain in the ass as a remote start can be, but after you do a couple you get used to them. The main things are making sure to use relays for the parking lights and second starter, and running your power wire under the hood(the constant feed to the ignition switch is fused at 10A).
Also, if the T&C has auto headlamps on the switch, make sure you use the relay to isolate the lights wire from the switch(i.e. cut the wire and hook 87a to the switch side, 30 to the BCM side, and 87 to 2100 ohms resistance to ground).
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 8:08 AM
I think the reason godsegoizhuge is asking the question is because the 2004 is a redesign. Listing info from 02 is probably pointless. I haven't done one yet. I do have bypasses in stock for the 04 Chrysler keys, they can be bought at bypasskit.com
Good luck with the vehicle, and let us know what you find. It might be similar in wiring to an 04 Durango or maybe even a Ram. Might want to compare the wiring to one of those, there are tech sheets available for those.
Posted By: Dale5403
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 8:17 AM
Some of the 04 Chrysler mini van's have the keyless entry built into the key now. Not a seperate fob like they used to be. We did one about a month ago and a c module dosen't work for this new key. It requires a u mudule but the key was to large to fit inside the coil. We wound up cutting the coil out of the module and used light gauge wire to make a new coil to fit it. If the vehicle has the standard gray key, the c module still works. Hope this helps..Dale
Posted By: Dale5403
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 8:20 AM
Forgot to mention, the dealership we did this for did not have a new replacement key to cut for it at that time. They gave up the seond key to the van for it. Haven't heard if the new keys are available yet. Dale
Posted By: derek123
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 8:22 AM
It;'s the same as an 03, except it has the key like a pacifica. They only get 2 keys with the vehicle, so it may be a good idea to have your cutsy go and get another programmed before you do the job.
Posted By: mxxmikexx
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 10:43 AM
i just got off the phone with howard keys, and they do have keys available for the 2004 t/c. JWORM... i didnt list info from the 2004, the info listed is for the 2004, i just mentioned that i had worked on a 2002.
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Mike Battaglia
Specialized Car Audio
Bensenville IL 60106
Posted By: godsegoizhuge
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 4:57 PM
I found a bypass kit that will work, its from bypasskits.com. Now my question is this, i dropped the lower dash panel and there's what looks like an airbag of some sort. Anyone know how to get around this or should i just leave it be?
Posted By: godsegoizhuge
Date Posted: February 12, 2004 at 9:23 AM
can someone help me out how i will wire in for the 2nd starter wire and also the parking lights? I got the resistors for it. I notice it says directfax 1082 for parking lights and directfax 1083 for remote start. Anyone actually have a copy of these two forms they can post or just give me step by step on how to wire these 2 wires up?
Posted By: Big Dog
Date Posted: February 12, 2004 at 2:24 PM
Try this:
The 2001 Caravan/Voyager and Town & Country mini vans use a single-wire multiplex light system that requires different resistance values for the parking and headlights. To activate the parking lights, only a negative trigger through a 2.1 K ohm resistor is required. A negative trigger through a 790 Ohm resistor will activate both the parking and the headlights.
Caution : Due to a rest state in the light switch , tapping a 2.1 Kohm resistor to the WHITE/ brown light wire at the switch will cause all the light to activate . To prevent this from occuring , the resisted value must be sent away from the switch to the BCM only. The following diagram shows how to accomplish this:
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Posted By: Big Dog
Date Posted: February 12, 2004 at 2:27 PM
While I'm at it, try this too:
The late 2001 manufactured Chrysler minivans have a PURPLE / BROWN wire at the ignition that must be activated with a resistor ground during crank.
 ------------- Prepare your future. It wasn't the lack of stones that killed the stone age.
Posted By: godsegoizhuge
Date Posted: February 12, 2004 at 9:10 PM
I've tried wiring up a relay for the 2nd starter wire, the problem i come across is that as soon as i goto hook up the 87 lead it automatically starts to send a feed to the PURPLE / brown wire. Could i have a bad relay or something? Other thing i was wondering is....what exactly does this wire control?? I mean the radio and heater/blower is on the ignition wire.
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: February 12, 2004 at 9:43 PM
List what you wired 86, 85 and 30 to.
Posted By: godsegoizhuge
Date Posted: February 13, 2004 at 8:34 AM
i done like it stated in the picture from above. As soon as the output to the 2nd starter wire was connected that's when it kicked on all the lights in the dash and made like a clicking noise under the hood. I'm guessing that sound was from possibly a relay in the underhood fuse box.
Posted By: daniel2002p
Date Posted: February 13, 2004 at 9:02 AM
i'm guessin g a bad relay, could you like draw out a pic and post it online so tht we can see if anyting was done wrong with the relay connection. ------------- 2005 Toyota Corolla S
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Posted By: godsegoizhuge
Date Posted: February 13, 2004 at 5:26 PM
Got the vehicle done, found out an interesting thing 'bout the 2nd starter wire on this van. Basically it's an anti-grind feature. Only way it becomes active is if someone tries to start the vehicle while it's already running. The PKU-CH2 from bypasskits.com is what i ended up using to bypass the transponder system on this new chrysler. Thanks to everyone who helped me through this interesting vehicle.
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: February 13, 2004 at 7:54 PM
Does that mean you didn't hookup the second starter? Does the heat come on with remote start? I know its needed for something.
The reason I wanted you to answer my last question was because I wanted to know if you put 85 to a NEGATIVE starter wire. If you looked quickly you might have saw starter wire and just hooked it to a positive starter wire. That would cause the buzzing sound you heard.
Relay should be as follows:
86 - constant
85 - negative starter
87 - ground thru 180 ohm resistor
30 - to 2nd starter wire
Posted By: godsegoizhuge
Date Posted: February 13, 2004 at 9:30 PM
On this vehicle it turns out the heater/radio is controlled with the ignition wire. I asked a tech at the dodge dealership and he's the one that told me that the 2nd starter wire on these 04's are just to prevent the flywheel to grind into the starter when someone tries to start the vehicle again while it's already running.
Posted By: godsegoizhuge
Date Posted: February 13, 2004 at 9:33 PM
On this vehicle it turns out the heater/radio is controlled with the ignition wire. I asked a tech at the dodge dealership and he's the one that told me that the 2nd starter wire on these 04's are just to prevent the flywheel to grind into the starter when someone tries to start the vehicle again while it's already running.
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