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Mazda Protege door lock options

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: Mazda Protege door lock options

Posted By: Toru
Subject: Mazda Protege door lock options
Date Posted: February 12, 2004 at 12:24 AM

I have a 1999 Protege with power locks. Everything I have read on this car says it is a single wire negative pulse system (ground to unlock, ground through 1kohm resistor to lock).

I have just removed an old unknown brand aftermarket keyless entry unit that did NOT use this connection method. Instead, the unlock output was connected to the single wire, but the lock output was connected to a relay was cut into the lock motor wire so that when energized, the lock motor wire was effectively cut and switched to +12V. I have no idea why an installer would go to this trouble rather than throwing a resistor in the mix.

I am going to install a new RKE unit, and I am wondering if I should use a resistor like all the wiring charts show, or re-use this interruptor relay?

If I use the resistor I am going to just tie both output wires (lock and unlock) from the RKE unit to the same point, just with one through a resistor?

Like so?

unlock
----------------\
lock             +--- to lock wire
--------\/\/\---/
        1kohm



Replies:

Posted By: douggie
Date Posted: February 12, 2004 at 2:03 AM
Yep.

unlock
----------------\
lock             +--- to lock wire
--------\/\/\---/
        1kohm

This is correct. After you've connected both unlock and lock (lock - thru resistor) to the lock wire, you can ground the unlock wire it will unlock the doors. And when you ground the lock wire, it will lock the doors. Simple.




Posted By: daniel2002p
Date Posted: February 12, 2004 at 6:07 AM
what the other installer did use a 5 wire system on lock because obvoisuly he had no idea what the heck he was doing.  just do it hte way you said initially and you'll be good

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2005 Toyota Corolla S
    1.8L VVT-i I-4
Always double check your wires with a DMM!!!
Do Not Use A Test Light!!!
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Posted By: Toru
Date Posted: February 12, 2004 at 11:36 AM
Thanks! posted_image




Posted By: daniel2002p
Date Posted: February 12, 2004 at 9:05 PM
glad to help

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2005 Toyota Corolla S
    1.8L VVT-i I-4
Always double check your wires with a DMM!!!
Do Not Use A Test Light!!!
MECP Certified Installer!
Best Buy 665 - IN IT TO WIN IT! TEAM MOBLE!




Posted By: Toru
Date Posted: February 13, 2004 at 5:23 PM
Ok, I've decided to install a Black Window 852 RKE. Now I'd like to install using the two-stage unlock feature.

Does anyone know offhand which wires I am looking for to control the driver's door lock motor directly?

The wiring chart here shows "red" and "blue" in the driver's kick panel as the driver's door motor, but I don't which wire I am supposed to intercept with the RKE. (The install diagram here (PDF) shows one of the wires to the door lock is cut and routed through the RKE, but which one?)




Posted By: tongaray
Date Posted: February 14, 2004 at 12:41 AM
i always use light green for unlock and 1kohm resistor on the light/green red for my locks




Posted By: Toru
Date Posted: February 14, 2004 at 12:51 AM
tongaray said, "i always use light green for unlock and 1kohm resistor on the light/green red for my locks"

I know that if I ground the "light green and red" ALL doors will unlock, and if I ground the "light green and red" through a 1kohm resistor then ALL doors will lock. Is this "light green" wire the control wire for the driver's door actuator? Taking this to ground will cause ONLY the driver's door to unlock?




Posted By: Toru
Date Posted: February 16, 2004 at 9:13 AM
Well, I got this completed. I don't know what "light green" wire tongaray was talking about - the driver's door lock motor is blue and taking it to +12V causes it to lock.




Posted By: douggie
Date Posted: February 16, 2004 at 10:45 AM
Toru, so did you manage to get ONLY the driver's door to unlock? To provide +12v to the blue wire, you might need another button/channel on your remote to do this (maybe use the trunk pop if you're not using it)




Posted By: Toru
Date Posted: February 16, 2004 at 12:41 PM
I am using the two-stage unlock feature of this unit. When I press the unlock button, ONLY the driver's door unlocks, when I press it again within 2 seconds then all doors unlock.

There is a "passenger unlock" wire that I have driving the door locks through the single wire control. I cut the unlock wire going to the driver's door and spliced the keyless entry unit in. It looks like a 5-wire hookup - unlock wire is normally connected and when you press the unlock it breaks the connection and connects the door motor unlock wire to +12V. This is all done inside the unit though, no external relay for it.

I am already using the trunk pop - that was the whole reason for replace the old RKE. posted_image

There are a few things still to do on this install:

1) Starter kill - just didn't get around to it. The diagram shows that the kill is active, i.e. the starter is only cut while the unit it "armed". Wouldn't it be better to have the kill be passive, i.e. the starter is always cut unless the unit is "disarmed"?   This should mean that if someone broke in and disconnected the unit the starter would still be cut?

2) Horn honk - probably not worth it, since I would not have it chirp on lock/unlock anyway, only for panic mode.

3) Adjust the output pulse on the 3rd channel output. This is the trunk pop, and it seems to pulse negative for 2-3 seconds - much longer than necessary. I am thinking that all I need to do is hookup the RC timer to the existing relay (shown here) to reduce that down to 1/2 second as it does not seem to be programmble in the unit.

4) Lastly, with ignition controlled locks, ALL doors lock on ignition on, but ONLY the driver's door unlocks on ignition off. I am thinking I may want ALL doors to unlock on ignition off (for the convenience of the passengers). Since the unit does not seem to support this by programming, I may add yet another relay to unlock the passenger doors on ignition off as well.

Whew, still plenty to play around with.

On top of all that, I am trying to do a clean install, soldering and taping my connections, wrapping the harness like the factory ones and securing things in place so that I don't have a rat's nest or rattles.





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