RSX3.5 install guide errors?
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Printed Date: July 26, 2025 at 7:33 AM
Topic: RSX3.5 install guide errors?
Posted By: Homebrew
Subject: RSX3.5 install guide errors?
Date Posted: February 13, 2004 at 6:03 PM
I've been reviewing the install guide for the clifford RSX3.5 and noticed according to pg.14 my secondary harness(H2) wasn't wired correctly. Against my better judgement i went ahead and rewired the harness to match the diagram. Today i thought i'd inspect the rest of the harness and diagrams to look for other errors. However while studying the diagram of the brain, i noticed that the brain labels for the connection for the secondary harness(H2) don't match the (rewired) harness. After comparing the diagram on pg.14 of the install guide to the diagram of the brain on pg.55, i realized the two don't match up. Both diagrams label the the wire colors to the same functions, but their locations are different. For instance, pg.14 says GREY/BLACK should be located next to LIGHT BLUE, while pg.55 says it should be next to LIGHT-GREEN/ BLACK. Which is correct? There's equal chance either diagram could be mislabeled. I don't want to screw anything up when i go to install. I checked the manual against the viper 791xv manual and they're both like this. Can anyone verify how the harness should be wired? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanx, -Kevin
Replies:
Posted By: Cadillakin
Date Posted: February 13, 2004 at 6:15 PM
I don't know what happened there. Have your tried calling Clifford? I just installed mine about 24 hours ago. I would just go with the function of the wire color. You can also test the signal coming out of the unit when you arm and disarm the alarm. Know what I mean? I don't have a factory alam so I had no use for this harness until I add more accesories.
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: February 13, 2004 at 7:36 PM
The manual is wrong. The colors and descriptions are correct, just the pin location are wrong.
Posted By: Homebrew
Date Posted: February 13, 2004 at 7:52 PM
I don't suppose you know what the correct pin locations are? I don't have any way to test the alarm outputs right now. I appreciate the replys guys. Thanx. -Kevin
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: February 13, 2004 at 7:59 PM
The correct pin setup is the way it came in the box. I could check tomorrow at work if nobody answers before then.
Posted By: Homebrew
Date Posted: February 13, 2004 at 8:04 PM
Thanx, i'd appreciate it. Like i said in my original post, i changed the harness when i noticed it didnt match the manual. However i can't remember which wires I switched. The lesson here is don't go switching wires. I bought the unit off ebay so i figured it may have been tampered with. Lesson learned, i'll never rewire again. I appreciate all your help. -Kevin
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: February 14, 2004 at 3:05 PM
let me know if you still need info. i've got them in stock and can grab a harness of a box
Posted By: Homebrew
Date Posted: February 14, 2004 at 10:51 PM
Yes i could still use the info kgerry. I'd greatly appreciate it if you could take a look. Thanx. -Kevin
Posted By: mecpcert_1
Date Posted: February 15, 2004 at 5:38 AM
i would think that the lesson is not to buy from ebay.LOL J/K  ------------- do it right the first time....less warranty work=more money!:)
Posted By: Homebrew
Date Posted: February 15, 2004 at 11:24 AM
mecpcert_1 wrote:
i would think that the lesson is not to buy from ebay.LOL J/K
LoL, that too.
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: February 15, 2004 at 12:44 PM
No, I think the lesson would be to not modify a perfectly fine harness without doing some research first..
Sorry, I forgot to check the pin config at work yesterday. Hopefully someone else can help you out.
Posted By: iskidoo
Date Posted: February 15, 2004 at 12:56 PM
No I think this is another classic example of DEI screwing up and not owning up to it. They should have a small piece of paper inserted into the manual with an addendum to the installation instructions rather than just hoping noone notices the problem. I think the fact that you checked your wires and compared them to the manual and questioned it before installing was a smart idea. 
Posted By: Homebrew
Date Posted: February 15, 2004 at 1:26 PM
Thanx iskidoo, i just don't trust that anything is perfect these days. I can't count how many electronic items i've had over the years that were setup incorrectly. I used to be heavy into R/C a few years ago and i had numerous battery packs that were wired backwards from the factory. To be honest though, the only reason i checked it in this case was because i was bored and i wanted to familiarize myself with the kit before i installed it. It was totally by chance that i noticed the harness didn't match up with the diagram. I really shouldn't have messed with it until doing further research, but hindsight is 20/20. Like i said i've had problems with electronics in the past. On the plus side i've caught the mistake and will rectify any problems before installation. No problem on the harness JWorm, another person offered to look as well. -Kevin
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: February 16, 2004 at 11:52 AM
the correct secondary harness wiring is: left to right Red w/white stripe, Red, Brown, Open, Black, Violet, Blue, Green, Black w/white stripe, White w/blue stripe, White, Orange
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: February 16, 2004 at 3:30 PM
kgerry, you listed the primary harness colors. He is looking for the secondary harness. 6 pin connector with light GREEN/ black, GREEN / WHITE, violet/black, WHITE/ black, grey/black, light blue. They are out of order in the book.
Posted By: Homebrew
Date Posted: February 16, 2004 at 7:20 PM
JWorm is right, its the secondary harness i'm looking for. -Kevin
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: February 17, 2004 at 12:11 PM
well you should have it now... sorry...in our shop we refer to the primary harness as the plug with the main heavy gauge primary wires and the secondary harness as the flat 12 pin harness...just second nature for me
Posted By: Homebrew
Date Posted: February 17, 2004 at 5:05 PM
Actually i could still use it. I'm not in a hurry, but i could still use the info. -Kevin
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: February 17, 2004 at 5:18 PM
left to right is... blue, white w/black, violet w/black, green w/white, grey w/black, green w/black
Posted By: Homebrew
Date Posted: February 17, 2004 at 8:00 PM
Excellent. All fixed now. Thanx to all for your help. I appreciate you taking time to check kgerry. thanx. -Kevin
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