Expedition lock wires

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: Expedition lock wires

Posted By: sdruesch
Subject: Expedition lock wires
Date Posted: February 16, 2004 at 2:29 PM

Please help!!
I am installing an alarm in a 2000 Expedition. I don't have the original keless entry remote, but it does have the module under the drivers side dash. I want to know how to find the wires, were to cut them since it is apparently a 5-wire reverse pol. I have searched the forums and install diagrams, but only get the colors, no other information.
I would appreciate any help.

Thanks
Steve
Intense Designs

Replies:

Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: February 16, 2004 at 2:46 PM

wires can usually be found at the module to the left of the steering column...neg if factory keyless, RP if no factory keyless, cut in and add your DRL module or relays whereever its comfortable

Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: February 16, 2004 at 3:35 PM

Every Expedition ever made came with Keyless. The wires are negative trigger at the keyless module. Don't cut the wires, just tap onto them. Colors are pink / YELLOW and pink/green.

Posted By: supra1988
Date Posted: February 16, 2004 at 9:16 PM

I would have to disagree with JWorm. I just did an expedition today that did not have keyless(brand new), and it has reverse polarity locks. Contact the manufacture of your unit and ask for tech support... they should be able to email or fax you a copy of the diagram that you need.

Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: February 16, 2004 at 9:55 PM

Make:   Ford
Model: Expedition
Year:    2000
This Database Was Last Updated On:    6/9/2003
Index #: 1724

Alarm
Constant 12 volts YELLOW & GREEN/ VIOLET IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 12 volts D BLUE/L GREEN IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter RED / L BLUE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome Light BLACK/ L BLUE (+) 16 PIN CONN. IN PASS. KICK PANEL
Trunk Pin Switch SAME CIRCUIT AS DOME LIGHT WIRE
Parking Lamp BROWN (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH *
Power Lock PINK / YELLOW PASSENGER KICK #201
Power Unlock PINK/L GREEN PANEL

* BROWN (+) Wire For Park Lights Is Also Found In A BLACK 66 Pin Connector In The Driver Kick Panel. #201- See Negative Pulse Door Lock Diagram.

Accessories
Window Up D\ WHT/BLK P\ TAN/BLU D\ YEL/BLU P\ RED / BLK @ MAIN #211
Window Down F/ ORG/WHT S/ WHT/YEL R/ GRY/ORG R/ YEL/BLK SWITCH
Ign Key Warn BLACK/ PINK (-) STEERING COLUMN HARNESS OR GEM *
Trunk Release N/A
OEM Horn D BLUE (-) STEERING COLUMN HARNESS
Headlights RED / YELLOW (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH
OEM Alarm Arm N/A SCHEMATICS DO NOT SPECIFY
OEM Alarm Disarm N/A SCHEMATICS DO NOT SPECIFY

* Generic Electronic Module (GEM) Located Behind Driver Dash Near Kick Panel Area. #211- See Reversal Rest At Ground Power Window Diagram.

Tach Signal SEE NOTE * AT POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE * #236
Ignition #2 RED / BLACK IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition #3 GRAY / YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Accessory BLACK/ L GREEN IFNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Neutral Safety NOT GROUNDING TYPE - OEM SWITCH OPENS STARTER CIRCUIT
Brake Light L GREEN (+) AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDEL
Reverse Light BLACK/ PINK (+) AT SWITCH ON TRANSMISSION
Rear Window Defrost D BLUE/ORANGE (-) AT REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER SWITCH

* Multi Coil System L GREEN / WHITE, PINK/WHITE, WHITE/ PINK, D GREEN/ VIOLET, L GREEN/ YELLOW, ORANGE / YELLOW, PINK/L BLUE, And WHITE/ RED Are All Two Singel Cylinder Signals At P.C.M. Located Behind The Battery Or At Each Coil. #236 - See Ford Passive Anti Theft System Diagram.

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Good Luck
David
Ace Security
813-376-9778
Tampa
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Posted By: sdruesch
Date Posted: February 17, 2004 at 12:44 PM

I really appreciate everyones response. But if JWorn is wrong, what is the correct connections. I don't want to try 'tapping in' if is will short something out.
Has anyone actually wiried an 2000 Expedition door locks to alarm?

Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: February 17, 2004 at 1:05 PM

use a multi meter or DVM.

if its not a neg system, then it would be a 5 wire system.

chances are it will be the first one....

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Good Luck
David
Ace Security
813-376-9778
Tampa
Donate to the 12volt

Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: February 17, 2004 at 9:39 PM

supra1988 wrote:

I would have to disagree with JWorm. I just did an expedition today that did not have keyless(brand new), and it has reverse polarity locks.

04 or 03? Those ALL have keyless. You just don't know where the factory keyless is. Its located high in the passenger kick panel in the recent years. You must have somehow found the motor wires instead of the (-) trigger wires.

Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: February 17, 2004 at 9:45 PM

sdruesch wrote:

I really appreciate everyones response. But if JWorn is wrong, what is the correct connections. I don't want to try 'tapping in' if is will short something out.
Has anyone actually wiried an 2000 Expedition door locks to alarm?

Yes....I've probably done over 30 of the 1997-2002 Expeditions. They all have the exact same wiring. Every single one has factory keyless entry and (-) doorlocks, and every single one has a transponder key. I even worked on one earlier today.

Posted By: mobiletoys2002
Date Posted: February 17, 2004 at 9:55 PM

I would have to agree with JWorm on this one all the newer expos have factory keyless and are all negative pulse.

Posted By: sdruesch
Date Posted: February 18, 2004 at 11:15 AM

Great. I will try your suggestion and let you know the results.
Thanks again-

Posted By: sdruesch
Date Posted: February 19, 2004 at 1:22 PM

Thank you JWorn and Draasch. I tapped in and it works great. Obviously I checked to see if a neg pulse would work first, and it did.

Now one more question:
The interior dome light. I want to connect it to the door trigger of the alarm. I noticed on the specs from Draasch it should be a Blk/Blue + in the pass kick panel. Is this correct?

Thanks for all the help.

Steve Ruesch
Intense Designs
LV NV

Posted By: logger
Date Posted: February 19, 2004 at 4:54 PM

I found these wires accessable thru the football shaped removable panel on top of the dash. The wires are in the harness atop the heater box... just a thought.