2004 toyota camry and rs 3.5
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: June 15, 2024 at 8:00 PM
Topic: 2004 toyota camry and rs 3.5
Posted By: IIrjII
Subject: 2004 toyota camry and rs 3.5
Date Posted: March 02, 2004 at 12:42 AM
I'm installing a RS 3.5x in my friends 04 Camry. The camry has factory keyless entry. I know that I'm going to need a 555u or something similiar to send the key signal to the transponder. Is there anything I need to look out for? Any surprises? Is the 555u ok to use? Also, can anyone give me tips on installing this in his car. Thanks in advance
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Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: March 02, 2004 at 8:20 AM
you have a choice of 555f to use w/o givin up a key, but 555u is the easiest way to go.
unlock require double pulse, its progressive unlocking.
heres the info for 5wire trunk popper if you have one------------- Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).
Posted By: IIrjII
Date Posted: March 02, 2004 at 7:33 PM
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: March 02, 2004 at 8:59 PM
555F won't work. The transponder key in the 04's is different than the 03's and earlier. Use a 555u, the 555F or 555X won't work. In case you didn't know, only the 6 cylinders have the transponder key.
Posted By: IIrjII
Date Posted: March 02, 2004 at 9:49 PM
So the 4 cylinder doesn't need a 555u?
Posted By: IIrjII
Date Posted: March 02, 2004 at 10:04 PM
Also, which wire from the rs 3.5x do I use to trigger the key sense wire? The blue status output wire from the rs3.5x is part of a ribbon. Or do I use the blue wire from the shock sensor to trigger the keysense wire?
Posted By: IIrjII
Date Posted: March 02, 2004 at 10:06 PM
or is it the light GREEN/ black wire, the factory alarm disarm wire?
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: March 02, 2004 at 11:46 PM
There is a 4 pin, 6 inch long harness that plugs into the HCRS (relay pack). Connect the blue wire from that to the keysense wire to disarm the factory alarm.
The blue wire from the shock sensor won't work.
From 1998 to 2003, only the 6 cylinder Camry has had a transponder in the key. I'm not sure if it has changed for 2004. I do know the key design has changed. I only recall one 04 Camry so far in my shop, and it had a chip.
Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: March 03, 2004 at 12:01 AM
learn something new today, thanks jworm
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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).
Posted By: IIrjII
Date Posted: March 04, 2004 at 1:13 AM
Thanks Jworm. Does anyone have the wiring diagram for the windows of a 04 Camry? Just the front.
Posted By: IIrjII
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 8:50 PM
i'm working on a 2004 camry and the car has a 2nd starter. The alarm only has one starter out put. What do I do? Do I just not connect the 2nd starter on the car or just ignore it? Thanks
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 9:49 PM
2nd Starter Relay Circuit ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: FullForce
Date Posted: March 06, 2004 at 5:12 AM
Velocity Motors wrote:
2nd Starter Relay Circuit
Hey Jeff, I tied the 2nd starter wire in with the primary start wire on that car about a month ago. Will it hurt anything?
Posted By: IIrjII
Date Posted: March 06, 2004 at 5:33 AM
Im a bit confused with the 2nd starter wire relay. ok, 30 = 2nd starter, 86 = ground?, 87 = 12 +, and 85 taps into the primary starter wire. Now, do tap into the primary wire before the starter kill relay, or does it even matter. Also, I can not seem to find the tach wire on the 04 camry. It is the 4 cyl, 2.4 l engine. Can anyone help me? Thank you
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 06, 2004 at 8:23 AM
Make sure that you tie into the starter disable after the circuit otherwise the car will not start. 86 is GROUND because the relay doesn't get activated until it receives a (+) from the starter wire anyway so you can have the relay grounded on the coil at all times. Use the injector wire instead of the tach coil wire. It's easier to find and also is less headaches. FullForce: I suggest separating the two now with a relay as in the diagram because Toyota had these two wires separated for a reason ( one for cold start ) so it's better off that you isolate each wire from one another. It will only cost you $ 3.00 for a relay or possibilities of big headaches later on down the road. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: March 06, 2004 at 10:47 AM
actually since the camry doesn't require an accessory hooked up you can just cut the orange wire on the ribbon cable going to the sattelite relay pack and tap it onto the violet wire in this ribbon cable. That will make your thick orange wire a second starter wire instead of an accessory wire. No relay needed, makes for a nice, clean install.
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: FullForce
Date Posted: March 08, 2004 at 7:45 AM
what kind of problems can you see it creating Jeff? I was hesitant at first buy went ahead and tied them together after I saw that they both read 12v with switch in crank position. Is there another way to isolate them with a diode?
OH, IIrjII, the tach wire is very easy to get to on that car .... its the BLACK/ orange wire in the data link connector ... the data link connector is right up undewr the dash, its a white plug .... good luck
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 08, 2004 at 8:42 AM
what kind of problems can you see it creating Jeff? I was hesitant at first buy went ahead and tied them together after I saw that they both read 12v with switch in crank position. Is there another way to isolate them with a diode? You could experience a check engine warning in the future I would not suggest diode isolating the wire because it is a high amperage wire and the diode will burn up within a few or less tries. I found this part of an article about the cold start wire and it's function as to what it does for the cold start valve on the Toyota's: Most of the Toyotas we see will have a cold start valve and a start injector time switch. The injector time switch, like the ECT, is screwed into a water jacket, as the cold start valve is not needed when the engine is warm. Its operation is simple. When the starter is engaged, battery voltage is sent to one terminal of the cold start valve and to the timed terminal of the injector time switch. The other terminal on the cold start valve goes to the injector time switch where it gets grounded, opening the cold start valve. At the same time, current is flowing through a heater inside the time switch, keeping track of how long the cold start valve has been open. At a certain time, the switch will open the ground circuit for the valve, stopping fuel flow and preventing flooding. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: FullForce
Date Posted: March 08, 2004 at 4:37 PM
ahhh, so when the engine is warm the 2nd starter wire will not have power on it?
thanks
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