general information please
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=28504
Printed Date: July 19, 2025 at 5:10 PM
Topic: general information please
Posted By: LordofShadows
Subject: general information please
Date Posted: March 16, 2004 at 6:26 PM
I just half installed a car alarm on a 97 grand am for my sister. Everything is connected except for the valet switch and the trunk release.
Here are the problems, I can open the door with the alarm primed and the siren doesnt sound, and the shock sensor just plain doesnt work.
The keyless entry, LED, starter kill, and panic button (siren) work fine though.
The only shabby wiring deals with the positive door trigger being spliced into the petal light, is this a problem since it doesnt turn off immediately after all the doors close? (doors close X second delay light fades out)
Where is the oem keyless mod? (supposedly contains my trunk release) (although the latch/trigger seem to be a cable system)
Replies:
Posted By: its_radio_shop
Date Posted: March 16, 2004 at 7:41 PM
Without knowing more about what system your using its hard to say whats going on. Some lower end alarm systems will not monitor the door triggers if it thinks the door is open when you arm the system (lighting delay). Also, not sure what you mean by the positive door trigger being spliced into the pedal light? Already doesnt sound good....
Posted By: sroth140
Date Posted: March 17, 2004 at 1:39 AM
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wow first of all, that car has a negative door trigger in both kick panels, and they have to be diode isolated. if you are using an alarm, there is no reason to go near the brake pedal. maybe the parking lights which can be found in the steering wheel harness or the switch. as far as shock, what do you have it mounted to, and are you letting the alarm arm for about 10~15 sec first? you have to zip tie that little guy to a very sturdy factory wire harness and make it tight. ------------- MECP certified installer
Posted By: LordofShadows
Date Posted: March 17, 2004 at 10:05 PM
Well, the alarm and shock sensor are zipped tied to the steering column. The door locks are at the driver side kick panels, and the parking lamps are in the steering column harness.
My wiring diagram didnt have a door trigger wire listed so I just went with that light. Once Im going to put off the shock sensor problem untill I get everything else in order. The car alarm is a Commando 520-S
Im currently trying to get a free wiring diagram from the car alarm company. (they offer this service just need my order number and part sku) All I really need to know is the color of the door trigger wire. If a professional with the info could step up with this info I would greatly appreciate it.
Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: March 17, 2004 at 11:03 PM
Make: Pontiac
Model: Grand Am
Year: 1997
Alarm
Constant 12 volts RED & RED IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 12 volts PINK IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome Light L GRN/BLK & L BLUE (-) AT CONVENIENCE CENTER MODULE *
Trunk Pin Switch ORANGE / BLACK (-) AT LIGHT IN TRUNK
Parking Lamp BROWN (+) AT LIGHT SWITCH OR DRIVER KICK PANEL
Power Lock L BLUE EITHER KICK #202
Power Unlock WHITE PANEL
* Convenience Center Module Located Behind Driver Dash To Left Of Steering Column. L GREEN/ BLACK (-) Covers Driver Door, L BLUE (-) Covers All Other Doors. Diode Isolation Needed, Cathode (Band) Side Of Diode Faces OEM Wires. #202- See Positive Pulse Door Lock Diagram.
Trunk Release BLACK (+) AT OEM KEYLESS MODULE IN TRUNK * #231
https://www.wiringinstructions.com/231.htm------------- Good Luck
David
Ace Security
813-376-9778
Tampa
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Posted By: Javelin3o4
Date Posted: March 18, 2004 at 12:28 AM
ITEM | WIRE COLOR |POL| WIRE LOCATION |
| 12V|red |+ |ignition harness |
| STARTER|yellow |+ |ignition harness |
| IGNITION|pink |+ |ignition harness |
| SECOND IGNITION|white |+ |ignition harness |
| ACCESSORY|orange |+ |ignition harness |
| POWER LOCK|blue |+ |drivers kick panel |
| POWER UNLOCK|white |+ |drivers kick panel |
| PARKING LIGHTS +|brown | |steering col. switch |
| HEADLIGHTS|yellow |+ |steering column switch |
| DOOR TRIGGER|grn/blk, lt.blue *2 |- |drivers kick-pass kick |
| TRUNK/HATCH PIN|ORANGE / black |- |at light in trunk |
| TACHOMETER|*1 | | |
| SPEED SENSE|dk. GREEN / WHITE | |at chime module |
| BRAKE WIRE|lt blue |+ |at brake switch |
| HORN TRIGGER|black |- |steering column switch |
| WIPERS|purple |+ |steering column switch |
| LF WINDOW UP/DN|dk. blue - brown |A |LF window motor in door |
| RF WINDOW UP/DN|lt. blue - tan |A |drivers kick panel |
| LR WINDOW UP/DN|dk. green - purple |A |drivers kick panel |
| RR WINDOW UP/DN|lt. green - purple |A |drivers kick panel | Notes:
NOTE: This vehicle has the passlock immobilizer system. Use DEI part number 555t or 555L when adding a remote starter system. *1 The V6 tach is PURPLE / white at the coil pack on the top rear of the motor. The 4 cylinder tach wire is white in a 16 pin plug on the top right side of the motor. *2 You must diode isolate these wires.
Posted By: LordofShadows
Date Posted: March 19, 2004 at 4:46 PM
Everything works great, thanks alot!
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