2003 dodge ram with viper 791
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: 2003 dodge ram with viper 791
Posted By: osokrayzay
Subject: 2003 dodge ram with viper 791
Date Posted: April 22, 2004 at 2:44 PM
I just cant see it. Can someone pls explaing this to me PWR DOOR LOCK/UNLOCK (Single Wire System) WHITE/ GREEN ( - )820 Ohm DRIVER KICK PANEL
UNLOCK ( - ) 330 Ohm DRIVER KICK PANEL.
If its a single wire system where do you place the diodes?
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Posted By: Teamrf
Date Posted: April 22, 2004 at 2:50 PM
Two relays...and two diodes..
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Posted By: osokrayzay
Date Posted: April 22, 2004 at 3:13 PM
thx for your reply and i hate to ask but would you happen to have an exmple diagram. I have dodge ram 2003 and im installing a viper 791.
Im currently searching all topics on dodge ram 1500.
Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: April 22, 2004 at 4:16 PM
85-lk/unlk
86-(+)12volt constant
30-ground
87-resistor inline w/ diode to the lk/unlk
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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).
Posted By: bmf1000d
Date Posted: April 22, 2004 at 6:41 PM
Remote Starter Wiring Colors and Notes | Function | | Vehicle Color | Location | Start: | | YELLOW | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | Ignition #1: | | BLUE (16 AWG) | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | Ignition #2: | | RED | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | Ignition #3: | | GREEN & ORANGE (2 WIRES) | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | Accessory: | | BLACK/ WHITE & BLUE (2 WIRES) | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | Brake Light: | | WHITE/ TAN | AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL | Tach Signal: | | TAN/RED | AT IGNITION COIL | Parking Lights: | | PURPLE / YELLOW | HEADLIGHT SWITCH* | Headlights: | | PURPLE / YELLOW | HEADLIGHT SWITCH * | OEM Alarm Disarm: | | LT. GREEN/ ORANGE ***** | HARNESS COMING IN FROM DRIVER'S DOOR | OEM Alarm Arm: | | | | Diesel Glow Plug: | | ORANGE / Black | Powertrain Control Module*** | Clutch Bypass Wire: | | | | Notes: | | * This Is A Single Wire System. Parking Lights Need To See A Ground (-) Through A 330 Ohm Resistor. Headlights Need To See A Ground (-) Through A 700 Ohm Resistor. ** Diesel Vehicles - ORANGE / Black Wait to Start; Tach Wire Is Gray/Black. Both Wires Are Located In A Black Connector Center Top Of Fire Wall. There Are Two Black Connectors, The Correct One Does Not Have A White Insert. *** Tach can also be located at pin 74 behind instrument cluster. |
Alarm and Keyless Entry Wiring Colors and Notes | Function | | Vehicle Color | Location | Constant +12 Volts: | | PINK/BLACK | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | Starter Kill: | | YELLOW | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | Ignition +12 Volts: | | BLUE (16 AWG) | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | Dome Lights/Superv: | | SEE NOTE *** | | OEM Horn: | | BLACK/ RED (-) | STEERING COLUMN HARNESS | Power Lock: | | WHITE/ GREEN | DRIVER'S KICK PANEL **** | Power Unlock: | | WHITE/ GREEN | DRIVER'S KICK PANEL **** | Trunk Release: | | N/A | | Alarm Input Wire: | | SEE NOTE *** | | Notes: | | *** Separate Triggers For Each Door. The Driver's Door Trigger Is Tan (-). The Left Rear Door Trigger Is Tan/Orange (-). Both Wires Can Be Found In The Driver's Kick Panel. The Passenger Front Door Trigger Is Tan/Red (-) And the Passenger Rear Door Trigger Is Tan / YELLOW (-). Both Of These Wires Can Be Found In The Passenger Kick Panel. Diode Isolate Each Wire For Alarm Trigger With The Bands Facing Away From The Alarm/Remote Start Module. Use Only One Trigger For Dome Light Supervision. **** Single Wire Door Lock System See Note #211. Lock Requires A Ground (-) Pulse Through A 867 Ohm Resistor. Unlock Requires A Ground (-) Pulse Through A 364 Ohm Resistor. Diode Isolate One Of The Wires. ***** Requires A Negative Pulse Through A 1.5 K-Ohm Resistor. |
HERE IS A DIAGRAM FOR YOUR LOCKS https://bulldogsecurity.com/New%20Wires/New%20Wires/Wires/images/dodram02locks.htm ------------- "Big" Mike
Double Take
Fremont, Ne
remember to check all your wires with a dmm not a test light!!
i take no responsibilty whatsoever for the vailidty of the info nor consequences thereof
Posted By: osokrayzay
Date Posted: April 22, 2004 at 7:03 PM
Hey guys thanks alot. You guys just saved me $300. Will be donating $$$ to the12volt. Great resource site and guys are willing to help instead of those i know it all and your wasting my time kind of fellas on other forums.
Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: April 22, 2004 at 7:06 PM
so, whats teh result? all go?
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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).
Posted By: osokrayzay
Date Posted: April 22, 2004 at 7:17 PM
Radio Shack here does'nt carry any resistors in the 800-900 range. The electronic supply store closed at 5:00 so i have to wait till tommorrow to get those resistors.
Posted By: osokrayzay
Date Posted: April 22, 2004 at 7:27 PM
The door lock harness is a 3 pin connector.
1. Green (-)Lock (+)unlock output
2. Empty
3. Blue (+)Lock (-)unlock ouput
Which wire do i use?
Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: April 22, 2004 at 8:15 PM
look at the only polarity you need and block out the other one.
like here youll need just the neg polarity so green=lock and blue=unlock
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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).
Posted By: osokrayzay
Date Posted: April 23, 2004 at 11:34 AM
I went to the electronic supply and to auto supply store and they are charging from $9.99 to $19.99 for 30a spdt relays. They are .89 at parts express.
hmm ok
I have some question on resistors.
It asks for a 867 ohm and a 364 omh resistors.
Now i know it doesnt come in those values. So do i need to get multiple resistors to come up with that value. Or do i get a resistor that is close to that range, like an 860 ohm for the 867. These are 1/2 watt resistors or 1 watt?
Posted By: bmf1000d
Date Posted: April 23, 2004 at 1:42 PM
Yeah if you get close that will be good enough. Like 860 and 360 you need 1/2 watt 5% tolrence ------------- "Big" Mike
Double Take
Fremont, Ne
remember to check all your wires with a dmm not a test light!!
i take no responsibilty whatsoever for the vailidty of the info nor consequences thereof
Posted By: osokrayzay
Date Posted: April 30, 2004 at 5:03 PM
This is my first install. I have been gathering much info on everything i can find that associates dodge ram with viper 791 for the past 2 weeks. I tought i was ready so i went outside and attacked the beast. Right now the beast is mauling me to death. Ok enough of that.
I bet this post will be very informative to many other people that come to the 12 volt for the first time
I want to learn this. Im reading tons of books and plan to attend some king of MECP classes etc.
Bellow are wires that are troubling me so far. " i will have more i bet"
Dodge Ram 1500 SLT 2 door
Viper 791 vx
Primary Harness
H1/1 Orange (-) gorund-when-armed output
H1/3 WHITE/ BLue remote start (-) activation input
H1/4 BLACK/ White (-) 200mA domelight supervision output
H1/12 RED / White Channel 2, 200 mA (-) output <-- accesories?
Secondary Harness
My truck does not have factory alarm do i need H2/1 and H2/2
Oh i also have the 530t window module im having trouble getting trough the plastic clip. Any ideas?
Your help is greatly apperciated.
Posted By: osokrayzay
Date Posted: April 30, 2004 at 7:05 PM
Thx mods for moving it to this thread.
Trying to figure this out.
H1/4 Black White (-) 200 mA domelight supervision
From what i understand i need to use a relay for this
85= H1/4 BLACK/ White
86= + 12v constant fused
87= Domelight supervision polarity (+) or (-) <--- where do i get this one from
30= i use the door trigger?
Posted By: osokrayzay
Date Posted: May 01, 2004 at 12:41 PM
Problem H1/4-
87- needs to be ground i guess its asking for the domelight supervion polarity since my door triggers are negative , im guessing i just ground that out.
I also went to google so im going to try this relay setup https://www.commandocaralarms.com/downloads/domelightsupervision.pdf
I figured out
H1/1 Orange (-) gorund when armed ouput is for when you add a window module for like the 530t or for like an electro luminescent armed indicator light.
H1/2 WHITE/ Blue remote start (-) activation input.
Im still stumped on this one. It looks like im suppose to use this wire to a switch that looks like the program
switch and the other wire to ground.
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: May 02, 2004 at 9:14 AM
H1/2 WHITE/ Blue remote start (-) activation input.
Im still stumped on this one. It looks like im suppose to use this wire to a switch that looks like the program
switch and the other wire to ground. This wire will engage the start sequence if is see a (-) pulse from either a switch or an external device like an alarm channel. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: osokrayzay
Date Posted: May 04, 2004 at 6:43 PM
Hey thx for the reply.
Installed the alarm. Time to clean it up now.
Remote start works perferct, 2-way is transmitting, Shock Senor is working.
Problems.
Parkin Lights and headlights dont work with the alarm. I used the BLACK / YELLOW wire. This is a single wire system. Parking Lights need to see a ground(-) trough a 330 ohm and headlights need to see a ground (-)trough a 700 ohm.
I siwtched the internal jumper to a (-) ligh flash output on the alarm. Used a relay and wired like so
86- +12
87- ground
85- H1/2 White (+/-) selectable light flash output
30- BLACK / YELLOW
My left door trigger is not working, but my right one is.
Maybe i tap the left door trigger into the right one.
Posted By: osokrayzay
Date Posted: May 04, 2004 at 7:00 PM
So i found out the BLACK / YELLOW is a (+). There is a wiring diagram that says to use the purple / YELLOW at headligh switch. Im going to wait for reply if not ill try that purple / YELLOW wire
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: May 04, 2004 at 9:10 PM
I always use the purple / YELLOW. Keep in mind, its ground thru a 330 ohm resistor.
Can you describe how you hooked up the door triggers?
Posted By: osokrayzay
Date Posted: May 04, 2004 at 11:22 PM
Got triggers working thx. Working on the purple / YELLOW wire.
Posted By: osokrayzay
Date Posted: May 05, 2004 at 9:21 AM
Installed 330 and a 680 ohm. My headlights dont work. I am able to pull on the lever and change to highs but once i let go they turn off.
I will be connecting the purple / YELLOW back together see if my headlights are working. I think im using the right resistors.
One thing i forgot to do was switch the flash output to (-)
that might be the cause of no headlights.
Posted By: osokrayzay
Date Posted: May 05, 2004 at 11:21 PM
Well I have sucessfully installed my own alarm with the help of this site and the forum members. Next project is the window moudle 530t. "Search" is a great tool will be using that more often now.
Things to come are window module. I would like to turn on my stereo with the remote for sh*ts and giggles, backup battery, backup siren. Found lots on info already using the "search". Once again thx all
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