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96 yukon, Viper 560xv remote start

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=32437
Printed Date: May 16, 2024 at 5:47 PM


Topic: 96 yukon, Viper 560xv remote start

Posted By: fugit
Subject: 96 yukon, Viper 560xv remote start
Date Posted: May 20, 2004 at 9:27 AM

Hi all, I'm new to the forums.  I'm installing a 560xv in my 96 yukon and had some questions I thought maybe someone here could help me with.  This is my first time installing one of these also.  The alarm part went perfect, it was actually easier than I thought.  The remote start, and window modules is a WHOLE different story.  I found the right wires and I wired everything like it says in the manual, but;

1.  In the manual the neutral safety switch wire should be at ground in park/neutral.  I found the two wires at the column(a black and a grn/wht) but the grn/wht wire reads 12v+ in park/neutral and 0 in gear.

2. All the relay satellite wires were connected like the book says but I get no start manually or remote.  I tested each of the wires in the ignition harness and there the correct wires.

3.  The window modules are wired to the right wires in the correct configuration but I get nothing even with the resistance set to zero.  (I saw a FAQ in the forum on the 530t that stated you needed a diode on the ground when armed so I'll try that and see what happens first.)

I've been doing this every chance I got for the last three days and me (and my wife) are getting tired of it.  Any help would be great.  I really don't want to pay 600$ for someone to install it when I've done all the hard work. 




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Posted By: WillTS
Date Posted: May 20, 2004 at 11:47 AM
As far as the neutral safety wire, you can use THIS
and that will give you one way to do it.

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Will              Just my $00.02
97 Chevy K1500 5.7L w/ Clifford Matrix RS2
BTW I am not a professional(well at procrastination maybe)
Be Gentle, I'm new to this :-)




Posted By: WillTS
Date Posted: May 20, 2004 at 12:02 PM
If you go ahead and ground out the neutral saftey wire from your alarm, does the remote start work?

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Will              Just my $00.02
97 Chevy K1500 5.7L w/ Clifford Matrix RS2
BTW I am not a professional(well at procrastination maybe)
Be Gentle, I'm new to this :-)




Posted By: fugit
Date Posted: May 20, 2004 at 12:30 PM
thanks for the link, I was going to look for that this afternoon.  I haven't tried grounding the safety, so I'll try this afternoon.

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"I'm Rick James bi***, enjoy yo' self Ah Ah Ah"
Dave Chappelle as Rick James




Posted By: fugit
Date Posted: May 20, 2004 at 3:59 PM
Grounded the safety wire, nothing.  It's strange because the truck won't start even with the key.  It says to cut the starter wire and connect one wire from the relay to the starter side and one the the ignition side.  Everything else works fine, the dash lights up like it should then I turn the key and nothing.  Still haven't tried the windows again yet.

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"I'm Rick James bi***, enjoy yo' self Ah Ah Ah"
Dave Chappelle as Rick James




Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: May 20, 2004 at 8:30 PM
cut the starter wire and the green to key side and the purple to the starter side, check it again. but this shouldnt matter when the alarm is disarm.

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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).




Posted By: WillTS
Date Posted: May 20, 2004 at 9:34 PM
Probe the green wire from the relay satellite when you turn the key to start, and see if you have voltage. If you get voltage there when you turn the key, try the purple wire and do the same thing. If you aren't getting any voltage there then there is probably something wrong with the relay satellite.   If you find juice on the green(key) side and nothing on the purple(starter) side then I would take the starter wire(yellow??) and reconnect it until you can figure what is bad and fix it or get a replacement.

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Will              Just my $00.02
97 Chevy K1500 5.7L w/ Clifford Matrix RS2
BTW I am not a professional(well at procrastination maybe)
Be Gentle, I'm new to this :-)




Posted By: fugit
Date Posted: May 20, 2004 at 9:47 PM
Right on, thanks for the input.  I have the green to the key side and purplet to the starter.  I'll test them now.

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"I'm Rick James bi***, enjoy yo' self Ah Ah Ah"
Dave Chappelle as Rick James




Posted By: fugit
Date Posted: May 20, 2004 at 10:05 PM
I tested the two and sure enough the green has voltage, and the purple has none.  I have no idea why.  Is there any way to test the satellite or open it up and see if it's jacked or what?  I got it online from etronics so I don't know how it would work to try and return it.   Is it possible that I fried it, and if so how would that have happened?  I sound like a 5 yr old but if anyone has any opinions let me know please.  Thanks again.

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"I'm Rick James bi***, enjoy yo' self Ah Ah Ah"
Dave Chappelle as Rick James




Posted By: WillTS
Date Posted: May 20, 2004 at 10:21 PM
On the remote start ribbon harness, disconnect it from the alarm, and take wire #5 the purple one and ground it with the ignition on and see if that will start it.
BTW to answer your PM question Utilities systems

Let me know what happens

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Will              Just my $00.02
97 Chevy K1500 5.7L w/ Clifford Matrix RS2
BTW I am not a professional(well at procrastination maybe)
Be Gentle, I'm new to this :-)




Posted By: WillTS
Date Posted: May 20, 2004 at 10:25 PM
That will isolate if it is a problem with the relay.

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Will              Just my $00.02
97 Chevy K1500 5.7L w/ Clifford Matrix RS2
BTW I am not a professional(well at procrastination maybe)
Be Gentle, I'm new to this :-)




Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: May 20, 2004 at 11:18 PM
fugit] wrote:

I tested the two and sure enough the green has voltage, and the purple has none.  I have no idea why.  Is there any way to test the satellite or open it up and see if it's jacked or what?  I got it online from etronics so I don't know how it would work to try and return it.   Is it possible that I fried it, and if so how would that have happened?  I sound like a 5 yr old but if anyone has any opinions let me know please.  Thanks again.


you can test the purple and green to see if its continuous when its disarm.

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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).




Posted By: fugit
Date Posted: May 21, 2004 at 2:46 PM

I tried grounding the purple wire without the key on and it started right up.  That means the relay is bad right?  Thanks for the idea, I never would've thought of it.  Made me feel better though.  I thought I was a dumbass that couldn't follow directions, or overestimated my skill level.  Now to see what's up with the window module that won't work.  Thanks again.



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"I'm Rick James bi***, enjoy yo' self Ah Ah Ah"
Dave Chappelle as Rick James




Posted By: fugit
Date Posted: May 23, 2004 at 9:49 AM

After looking at it some more, when I cut the starter trigger and grounded it the truck started right up.  I cut it just before the connection to the brain.  Shouldn't grounding the trigger show a problem with the alarms brain?






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