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3000GT Alarm Installation Help

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: 3000GT Alarm Installation Help

Posted By: slade781
Subject: 3000GT Alarm Installation Help
Date Posted: July 07, 2004 at 10:37 PM

Hi, I have a '94 3000GT SL and I'm planning on getting the Viper 791XV alarm system.  However, I have never installed an alarm system before so I was wondering if you guys could give me a breakdown on what I will need to do.  My friend, who is going to be helping me, is familiar with alarm installations in Hondas but has never worked on a 3000GT before.  Is there much difference?  Any help is much appreciated.

Also, my car has a stock security feature and I want to turn that off.  How do I do that?

Finally, although my plan is to get the Viper 791XV, I hear that they are a bit thick so I may go with the Viper 350HV instead.  If I went with the 350, would the instructions change in any way?  If so, what?  Thanks in advance.




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Posted By: jepherz
Date Posted: July 07, 2004 at 11:45 PM
I just did an install in an eclipse, so it is probably somewhat similar to what you are doing. Get a good wiring diagram; I know the library here has a computer with a subscription to a publisher called Mitchels and the wiring diagrams are very good and helped me a lot. As far as my experience goes, if you can't read and understand wiring diagrams, you are in for a lot of work. All alarms pretty much work the same though, the hard part is taking apart your car and finding the wires. Good luck.

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"Screw nitrous, I'd rather be blown."




Posted By: slade781
Date Posted: July 08, 2004 at 12:30 AM
Where would I go to find good wiring diagrams?  And umm....what did you take apart to get to all the wire stuffs?  Hehe  Sorry, I'm just new with this alarm stuff....




Posted By: datrick
Date Posted: July 08, 2004 at 7:00 AM

If you are in the car, then you cannot see wires that are under the dashboard.   So in order to acces those wires, you have to remove several panels.  Use your imagination and try to have the best acces at those wires. 





Posted By: slade781
Date Posted: July 08, 2004 at 2:43 PM
What do you mean use your imagination?  And how hard is it to remove the panels?  Oh, and uh....what panels?  posted_image




Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: July 08, 2004 at 3:39 PM
-well to start off, its held by 4 10mm bolt, 2 behind the switches and 2 under.

-you gonna need some t-taps on this (trust me!!) when you have to reach those wire far left of the steering column.

-those wires are very in a tight space and hard to see, so prepare ur patiences. the power lock wires are very high up the fire wall near the corner.

-parkin light, it was easy to find the negative pulse than the positive. if use neg, dont forget to switch the jumper to neg on Vipers.

-for clutch(if available), blue wire- open circuit clutch bypass system.

-tach-i use voltsense(no time for the intrument cluster).... tach at the injector will not work for some reason (on Vipers).

i gotta say, 3000gt and stealth have the crappiest under-dash access panel anyone couldve built. youll know when you get ur hands on it.

good luck!!!! post ur result.

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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).




Posted By: slade781
Date Posted: July 08, 2004 at 6:34 PM
Hey profuse007, thanks for the heads up.  We're looking at Friday as the day to do the alarm....yikes!  :)  Do you have a 3000GT or Stealth?  Or have you just worked on them before?  I'll let you guys know how it goes.  And if anyone has any other advise and so forth, please do tell.  Thanks guys!




Posted By: slade781
Date Posted: July 08, 2004 at 7:35 PM
Oh yeah, what are t-taps?  And how would we disable the factory stock security?




Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: July 09, 2004 at 1:37 AM
t-taps
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male disconnect
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they have those in a small quantity at Wal-Mart

|FCTRY ALRM DISARM|GREEN/ blue *3       |- |ETACS mod. under dash *5
-*5 The ETACS module is located left of the steering column close to the drivers kick. It is flat with its edges facing up, down, front, and back, with its two(2) plugs on the bottom edge.
--run a negative to the wire above, relay may required
-theres a blue/white(i think) for disarm on the 6 pin harness on the viper.


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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).




Posted By: slade781
Date Posted: July 11, 2004 at 1:13 AM

HOLY SH*T!!!  We just spent freakin' 7 and a half hours on my car and we're still not done yet.  Problems that arose....

1. As soon as we started, we could not get the bottom dash off.  So we just gave up on it because it was too complicated and the wires we needed were like just dangling there.

2. Now we had to find all the wires and find what they did.  That just took a lot of time....

3. At the moment, we cannot find what wires are for the lock/unlock on the car.  Does anyone know???  We found the door lock on but it didn't work and could not find the unlock one.  Help!!!

4. Also, the stupid door trigger says RED / Green right...well, we find the batch and there are 3 RED / Green wires.  What the heck man????

So yeah, profuse007, you were right....patience is definitely a must.  Okay guys, any help is MUCH NEEDED!!!!  Thanks....





Posted By: slade781
Date Posted: July 12, 2004 at 8:40 PM

Okay, so we finally finished installing my alarm today....kind of... The thing is, we didn't get everything to work. It took us forever to find the right wires for the doorlocks for keyless entry and like the stupid door trigger junk doesn't work. My car's up and running and everything but sh*t....this sucks. I mean, you pay a fortune for the alarm and everything and it sucks when you don't get all the benefits.

Anyways, I was planning on taking it to a shop but this is what I got so far.  This guy wants $485 to install the alarm because he said there are a whole bunch of features and that it would take the whole day.  So I take it to a different shop and he said he'd do it for $200 and I asked him about the "additional features" and he was confused.  So I go to Circuit City and they said they'd do it for $160.  I asked them about the features as well and they said that the 791 is just a regular alarm with the capability of additional features.  So I'm like so was this guy just trying to rip me off and they're like yeah.

So here is my question....who's telling the truth???  I kinda believed the guy because he ran his own shop and said he was certified so I was thinking he'd probably know more.  But damn, two other places were like it's just a regular alarm so I'm just confused now.  Maybe since the guy ran his own shop, that's more of a reason to like rip me off....I don' t know...  Let me know what you guys think....thanks....





Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: July 12, 2004 at 9:08 PM
What part didt u get hook up yet. door tigger is a RED / green with silver dots.

As for have a shop install it. DO NOT TAKE IT TO CIRCUIT CITY! not all are bad. $485 just to install, hell with that. Oh you said "planning"

Beside the problems that you have came into with, you want to kept installing and learn more form it. Im not sure how long it took me to do my very first alarm, but took almost all day i do know that. but i enjoyed it, and sevel years later still doing it.




Posted By: slade781
Date Posted: July 12, 2004 at 10:06 PM
No, the $485 is from a stand-alone guy.  Circuit City wants $160.





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