Clifford rsx3.5
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: April 29, 2024 at 5:49 AM
Topic: Clifford rsx3.5
Posted By: lilboi
Subject: Clifford rsx3.5
Date Posted: August 06, 2004 at 3:23 AM
I just finished half the installation for the clifford on my prelude. I couldn't figure out how to connect the door lock switch to the alarm. It has 5 wires, so i'm confused. Also, the dual shock sensor included in the kit, has a spare blue wire, and when i look on the other end, a blue wire is jumped. What am i suppose to do with this. Any one have trouble disabling clutch? Thanks.
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Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: August 06, 2004 at 3:58 AM
what year model is ur car?
look at the vehicle database, posted as stickie.
then simply find the drlock wire and use the 3 pin harness but 2 wires, blue and green for unlock and lock.
shock sensor, just leave it as is.
clutch, negative closed circuit switch. meaning when the two wire complete in circuit, the clutch is bypass.
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Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 06, 2004 at 4:38 AM
IThe door lock thing connects to this module. The module has 5 wires on it. What do i do with that?
Posted By: parvo99
Date Posted: August 06, 2004 at 1:47 PM
think you don't need the whole 451m module. It's for cars that need the extra relay. You just take the green and blue wire from the alarm brain, and hook those up to the lock and unlock.
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 06, 2004 at 2:10 PM
Are you positive? I don't want to mess up my car.
Posted By: parvo99
Date Posted: August 06, 2004 at 3:12 PM
No, don't trust me. I'm trying to learn this too, but that's the info I got for my car which is a 2003 tl
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 06, 2004 at 3:44 PM
did it work? The manual saids don't directly connect those wires to the door lock cause it's meant to power a relay. Any one else got ideas?
Posted By: parvo99
Date Posted: August 06, 2004 at 4:06 PM
I'm installing mine this weekend. Hopefully someone else can answer, but I think the car has relays for the door locks, and you're just tapping into the wire that sends the signal to the car relay.
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 07, 2004 at 6:37 AM
Yea, just cut the relay off, and use the blue/green wires. It worked for me. I got a relay to bypass the clutch. I have to work out a few bugs. Any one know how to make the autostart only try 3 times? or somehow make it so it doesn't crank as long if i have it in gear. Cause i tried it, it just kept on jerking forward like it was walking away.
Posted By: parvo99
Date Posted: August 07, 2004 at 10:50 AM
Hey, if I don't use the relay, can I use it as my trunk release relay???
Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: August 07, 2004 at 11:24 AM
parvo99 wrote:
Hey, if I don't use the relay, can I use it as my trunk release relay???
i would stick to single relay for simplicity. ------------- Houston,TX
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Posted By: mcse74
Date Posted: August 08, 2004 at 2:13 AM
I have done two of these and I cut that relay off and use the blue and green wires to trigger a set of relays and then use the relays to lock and unlock the doors. I tried it without the relays the first time and it did work. Jim
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 08, 2004 at 2:20 AM
Is it a special relay? it looks a bit more advanced. Any one know how to limit the amount of time it cranks before giving up.
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 08, 2004 at 8:20 PM
any one know how to do this?
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 09, 2004 at 9:21 PM
I have two questions, Today i pushed the 4 buttons on the remote at once (to set the vibration and illumnation). I tried to press the trunk button and on the lcd it cycled through trunk/hood/both. What is this feature? Also i bought a mini interior siren, can i just tap it to my regular siren. I plan to upgrade my original siren as well, Is there any thing special about the stock one?
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 10, 2004 at 3:28 PM
any one help me? try to hold all 4 buttons on your remote, then press the trunk release. what's that for?
Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: August 10, 2004 at 3:35 PM
turn on and off trunk hood paging mode?
the user manual saids it all.
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Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 10, 2004 at 3:37 PM
i don't get it? I got scared so i kept it in the programming mode, and pulled the battery so it won't register. I didn't change any of the settings so i should be good.
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 12, 2004 at 8:22 PM
can you help me find it? i don't know where it is. Also i need to know if i can set my auto start to only try for 2 seconds max.
Posted By: SoCalBluetooth
Date Posted: August 13, 2004 at 9:20 PM
If you had a BitWriter you could take care of all your programming needs very easily. Will work on my different DEI systems for under $100. Counting chirps is for the birds!
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 14, 2004 at 1:45 AM
i don't have that kind of money to just throw away. I only need to program it once and that's it.
Posted By: SoCalBluetooth
Date Posted: August 14, 2004 at 4:46 AM
In that case then you need to follow the instructions in the installation manual. (pages 40 & 41) It's really not that difficult. Open door, turn Ignition on & off, Press and hold valet switch. Continue holding untill you get to 3 led flashes / chirps. then release the valet switch. Your now in menu #3 remote start options. Within 10 seconds press the valet button 6 times. On the 6th press of the switch keep it pressed. The LED will now start to flash 5 times in groups of three. This indicates you are now at menu #3-5, the crank time settings of the remote start menu. (If you don't get the correct number of flashes don't worry. Do nothing for 15 seconds and you will exit the learn routine. Simply start over.) Once you get the correct number of led flashes / chirps, continue to hold the valet button and press the lock button on your remote 7 times. Then release the valet switch. If you hear one long unexpected chirp during this process, you've waited too long between steps and the system exited you from the learning mode. Just start over and after a few times you'll get the hang of it. All of that aside, why do you care about the crank time? Aren't you monitoring the motor tach or voltage? If you are then it really doesn't matter what the crank time is. Anyway, hope this helps and if anyone wants to use my Bitwriter and your in SoCal Zip 92563, just PM me to make arrangements.
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 14, 2004 at 6:37 PM
I drive a manual. I don't want to car to keep on trying if i'm in gear. How long will the auto start try for? Last time i was sitting in the car, left it in gear. And tried the auto start. The started to inch forward. I stopped it after 3 seconds.
Posted By: Daveyw8vey
Date Posted: August 14, 2004 at 11:53 PM
Hi guys, new to the forum. I have a clifford 3.5 matrix, had it in my 02 accord since feb of this year, maybe march. Recently the battery was going dead on my remote so I replaced it. It didn't respond, didn't resync or nuffin. I looked up in directed.com the owners manual or instructions manual and due to the code hopping, when trying to resync the remote after battery replacement, one must press the lock button several times in range in order to resync itself. Im still stuck, even tried holding the lock button, taking the battery out and pressing the lock, tried holding different combinations and etc. My friend who works at best buy in ny who originally installed it said to replug in the antenna but that didn't do much. I've tried however to look up how to program replacement 2 way remotes to try it on this but no luck. If anyone gots any idea, I'd appreciate the suggestions. I know I can take it to best uy and get it done for a surcharge but I would like to see any other ideas. Does unplugging the car battery for an hour do anything to reset? Maybe I need a new antenna replacement, I did read on one forum about someone stating the antennas last from 6 months to 2 years. Hopefully I don't have to go to the brain itself becuz its well snug in my dash deep but thanks for readin, I look fwd to any comments. ------------- Need money to hook up car, donate now =)
Posted By: SoCalBluetooth
Date Posted: August 15, 2004 at 9:16 PM
lilboi wrote:
I drive a manual. I don't want to car to keep on trying if i'm in gear. How long will the auto start try for? Last time i was sitting in the car, left it in gear. And tried the auto start. The started to inch forward. I stopped it after 3 seconds.
2 seconds is the crank time following the directions I posted.
Posted By: SoCalBluetooth
Date Posted: August 15, 2004 at 9:29 PM
Daveyw8vey wrote:
Hi guys, new to the forum. I have a clifford 3.5 matrix, had it in my 02 accord since feb of this year, maybe march. Recently the battery was going dead on my remote so I replaced it. It didn't respond, didn't resync or nuffin. I looked up in directed.com the owners manual or instructions manual and due to the code hopping, when trying to resync the remote after battery replacement, one must press the lock button several times in range in order to resync itself. Im still stuck, even tried holding the lock button, taking the battery out and pressing the lock, tried holding different combinations and etc. My friend who works at best buy in ny who originally installed it said to replug in the antenna but that didn't do much. I've tried however to look up how to program replacement 2 way remotes to try it on this but no luck. If anyone gots any idea, I'd appreciate the suggestions. I know I can take it to best uy and get it done for a surcharge but I would like to see any other ideas. Does unplugging the car battery for an hour do anything to reset? Maybe I need a new antenna replacement, I did read on one forum about someone stating the antennas last from 6 months to 2 years. Hopefully I don't have to go to the brain itself becuz its well snug in my dash deep but thanks for readin, I look fwd to any comments.
Try this. This is the procedure for a replacement transmitter / remote. 1. Open a door 2. Turn Ignition key to on position. 3. Within 5 seconds press the Valet / Program button twice. On the second push hold it. The LED will flash once and the siren will chirp once. 4. Do not release the Valet / program button yet. While holding the Valet / Program button press the lock button on your remote transmitter. The siren should chirp once. This last chirp confirms the unit has learned the remote transmitter. 5. Release the Valet / Program button and then turn off and remove ignition key. Hope this works for you. It worked for me when I purchased a second remote transmitter to use as a spare.
Posted By: Daveyw8vey
Date Posted: August 19, 2004 at 11:25 PM
Actually turns out it was a defective remote from what I assume. Hopefully I can find the receipt, but I knew somethin was up kuz that annoying beep lowered in volume. Never dropped it though, but the reason why I am confirming it is because I just put a new energizer battery, the ones wit maximum digital camera power. So anyways I was showin it to one of my boys who tried resetting it when taking the battery out and it didnt at all, no lil song or lcd or nuffin. Today however the battery was dead. Hopefully I can swap it, I know its hard because that'd mean they would hafta send the brain and all back to the factory but I'll see what I can do. Thanx for the help, I'll keep you updated.
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Posted By: SoCalBluetooth
Date Posted: August 20, 2004 at 4:09 AM
If you can't find the receipt you should check out Ebay for a replacement remote. I've seen them for $75. I've also seen the "Companion" remote for around $60. The companion remote is a one way remote so no paging function but it does everything else the 2 way remote does.
Posted By: Daveyw8vey
Date Posted: August 20, 2004 at 11:49 PM
I found the receipt!!! =) I'll take it there first thing in the morning. Hopefully they don't give me the run around about oh its a 5 sp, we can't provide any troubleshooting, which I agree, but I know I need a responder replacement so *fingers crossed* Im goona call my friend who has friends that work in install, wish me luck. Any one else have any defects on their original remotes? I know the Clifford Matrix 3 had a recall , atleast in NY because the two way function eventually faded and stopped working, hence y 3.5 came out, but I do remember they were still selling matrix 3 in Jersey for a while longer.
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Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 21, 2004 at 4:03 AM
SoCalBluetooth wrote:
lilboi wrote:
I drive a manual. I don't want to car to keep on trying if i'm in gear. How long will the auto start try for? Last time i was sitting in the car, left it in gear. And tried the auto start. The started to inch forward. I stopped it after 3 seconds.
2 seconds is the crank time following the directions I posted.
I don't understand what you're stating.
Posted By: SoCalBluetooth
Date Posted: August 21, 2004 at 7:22 AM
lilboi wrote:
SoCalBluetooth wrote:
lilboi wrote:
I drive a manual. I don't want to car to keep on trying if i'm in gear. How long will the auto start try for? Last time i was sitting in the car, left it in gear. And tried the auto start. The started to inch forward. I stopped it after 3 seconds.
2 seconds is the crank time following the directions I posted.
I don't understand what you're stating.
OK, Follow these instructions to program the remote start crank time for 2 seconds. You will have to turn off the engine checking feature as well. Remote Start Crank Time Open door, turn Ignition on & off, Press and hold valet switch. Continue holding untill you get to 3 led flashes / chirps. then release the valet switch. Your now in menu #3 remote start options. Within 10 seconds press the valet button 6 times. On the 6th press of the switch keep it pressed. The LED will now start to flash 5 times in groups of three. This indicates you are now at menu #3-5, the crank time settings of the remote start menu. (If you don't get the correct number of flashes don't worry. Do nothing for 15 seconds and you will exit the learn routine. Simply start over.) Once you get the correct number of led flashes / chirps, continue to hold the valet button and press the lock button on your remote 7 times. Then release the valet switch. (You can press the lock button 6 times=1.8 sec, 5 times=1.6 sec, 4 times=1.4 sec, 3 times=1.2 sec, 2 times=1.0 sec, 1 time=0.8 sec and finally 8 times=4.0 sec) If you hear one long unexpected chirp during this process, you've waited too long between steps and the system exited you from the learning mode. Just start over and after a few times you'll get the hang of it. Turn Engine Checking Off Open door, turn Ignition on & off, Press and hold valet switch. Continue holding untill you get to 3 led flashes / chirps. then release the valet switch. Your now in menu #3 remote start options. Within 10 seconds press the valet button 2 times. On the 2nd press of the switch keep it pressed. The LED will now start to flash 1 time in groups of three. This indicates you are now at menu #3-1 Engine checking on / off menu. (If you don't get the correct number of flashes don't worry. Do nothing for 15 seconds and you will exit the learn routine. Simply start over.) Once you get the correct number of led flashes / chirps, continue to hold the valet button and press the unlock button on your remote 1 time. Then release the valet switch. Engine checking should now be off. The reason you must turn engine checking off is that the remote start will continue to crank the starter until it sees the tach feedback or voltage feedback when engine checking is on no matter what you have the crank time set to. By turning engine checking off, the starter will only crank for the time you programmed in. The one drawback to this is you will not know if you engine is really running or not unless you are close enough to hear it. Finally, If I were attempting to install a remote start on a car with a manual transmission, I would figure out a way to hook a switch up to indicate when the car was in gear. There is always a way it just depends on how much time and effort you want to put into it.
Posted By: SoCalBluetooth
Date Posted: August 21, 2004 at 7:32 AM
Also with engine checking off, if you attempt to remote start and it does not start, the ingnition circuit will remain powered until you shut down the remote start.
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 21, 2004 at 9:56 PM
hmm... so the car will continue cranking until it starts? For crank time. will it still check for volt/speed? Also, for engine checking off, it will not show on the lcd that it's on?
Posted By: SoCalBluetooth
Date Posted: August 23, 2004 at 7:32 AM
Crank time is only used by the alarm when the engine checking feature is on. Once engine checking is off then the alarm will crank for the programmed time. With engine checking off the alarm has no way of knowing if the motor actually started or not. It will assume the motor has started and display the exhaust symbol on the remote. With engine checking off the alarm will ignore the volt/tach input. Is this becoming clearer?
Posted By: Daveyw8vey
Date Posted: August 23, 2004 at 1:08 PM
SoCalBluetooth wrote:
If you can't find the receipt you should check out Ebay for a replacement remote. I've seen them for $75. I've also seen the "Companion" remote for around $60. The companion remote is a one way remote so no paging function but it does everything else the 2 way remote does.
I put in a bid for the new viper 479v remote, supposedly its compatible according to most websites that sell the remote and the auction. Bid is at 39, hopefully no one needs a replacement that owns a viper alarm so I can keep it at this price, and if I do, its about 100 bux off retail price in stores =) Bestbuy would not replace it because they require an installation receipt which should have nothing to do with the remote. Id understand if it were the brain which may require troubleshooting what not but the remote shouldn't not function do to installation but w/e. If I win on ebay for under 50 bucks, I will buy a second one for the sake of emergency and kuz its like a 2 for one price wise. Wish me luck, and I'll let u know how it turns out when I receive it ------------- Need money to hook up car, donate now =)
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 23, 2004 at 3:27 PM
i might be bidding on that too.
Posted By: MBZ oe
Date Posted: August 24, 2004 at 11:48 AM
PM me and I will give you the# to call and get a 479x remote brand new with warranty for 84.99 shipped. THE 479V is NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE RS3.5. It is only for the viper 790/791xv. You need the 479x above like I just bought for spare. ------------- BOOM, BOOM, BOOM BOOM....
Posted By: MBZ oe
Date Posted: August 24, 2004 at 11:52 AM
YOU ALSO NEED TO CONNECT THAT NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH SO THAT YOU DON"T KILL OR HARM SOMEONE. That's EXTREMELY IRRESPONSIBLE, and you should park with parking brake, and in neutral until you get the NSS hooked up.
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Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: August 24, 2004 at 4:15 PM
actually i'm pretty sure all the 479 remotes are cross compatible.... i've sold 479X remotes to guys with Viper and Python alarms because they liked the carbon fibre look better and they seemed to work fine .....
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Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: August 24, 2004 at 8:51 PM
MBZ oe, you do realize that the remotes from the Clifford, Python and Viper Responder systems are all the same internally. Only difference is the color of the plastic.
And lilboi, when the day comes that you remote start the car when its in gear can you take some pictures of it after it hits a wall, another car or your house. I like seeing those pictures...they are always entertaining. Hopefully you don't kill anybody.
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 24, 2004 at 11:12 PM
I almost never leave my car in gear. My neutral safty switch it tapped to my e-brake. I'm just afraid of those instances that people sit in my car and play with my shifter. And that's pretty f**ked up for you to say it like that.
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: August 24, 2004 at 11:58 PM
Its not f**ked up. I'm being realistic. It only takes one screw up to make a lot of damage or to cause an accident.
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 25, 2004 at 2:35 PM
Hmmm.... you're basically saying, i hope to see those pictures of your car being smashed up. People without alarms get there car broken into, you don't see people asking for picture of their stripped cars. Man you gotta be more humble. Get what ever is up your ass, out of there. And smell the flower. This world isn't as f*ed up as you think it is.
Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: August 25, 2004 at 4:12 PM
lilboi wrote:
I almost never leave my car in gear.
I don't take sides on the forum. But I would ask you to seriously consider what you just wrote.
That is like being half pregnant . . . Either you are, or you arent !!
It only takes that one time for you, or another person to auto start the vehicle, and it becomes a lethal projectile, weighing in at more than 2500 lbs.
Everyone has a right to protect their propery, but take consideration for others around you, while parked.
Thats all I have to say on that . . .
Regards
EVIL Teken . . .
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 25, 2004 at 10:00 PM
that's a way to say it better then take pictures of the accident for me. But anyways, i've tried to autostart while i was in gear. It inches forward about 1 inch for every 2 seconds.
Posted By: Daveyw8vey
Date Posted: August 25, 2004 at 10:52 PM
MBZ oe wrote:
PM me and I will give you the# to call and get a 479x remote brand new with warranty for 84.99 shipped. THE 479V is NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE RS3.5. It is only for the viper 790/791xv. You need the 479x above like I just bought for spare.
Many websites advertise the 479 v compatible for clifford matrix 2.5 rsx and 3.5 rsx including the ebay description, so if the websites were falsely advertising I could care less but I'd argue the ebay seller about it and get my money back. Im pretty sure though that the 479 series is all compatible whether its v or x, most dealers respond saying look at the fcc code on the back of the remote and if it is the same, than it should be compatible. I just bought it through what I read online, and hopefully it is for my sake = / I mean for the same remote for 135 $ retail and the x being about 99.00 it better be friggin compatible ------------- Need money to hook up car, donate now =)
Posted By: Daveyw8vey
Date Posted: August 25, 2004 at 11:07 PM
https://www.drdetailshop.com/479V.htm https://www.autopreservers.com/remote_transmitters/479pvx.html https://www.audiowarehouse.peachhost.com/ct_CGtransmitters.htm You are however the 2nd person who told me this though, so I am a little worried, but Im halfly confident it does work kuz of what they state in their sites ------------- Need money to hook up car, donate now =)
Posted By: MBZ oe
Date Posted: August 26, 2004 at 9:52 AM
I talked to a DEI rep yesterday and he said that it will work but it's not supposed to because each DEI company is supposed to have their own FCC ID's. He also said that they if someone reported this that they would be forced to comply with FCC regs. If anyone wants one for $84.99shipped direct from DEI with warranty covered, PM me and I will give you the info. FYI, he also said that the vipers remotes have been failing around 6 months and that they sell many 479x's to replace them. You can do a search to see how many times we all have talked about the 479v's failures/problems. ------------- BOOM, BOOM, BOOM BOOM....
Posted By: Daveyw8vey
Date Posted: August 26, 2004 at 10:48 AM
My 479x was the one that failed on me which is why I decided to try the viper one, I'll let u know if it acts up. Hopefully it doesn't for my sake. But yah it does look like they share the same fcc id's for some reason, maybe they did that so people would have the option buy any of the 3 remotes pvx, all look the same and are 15 channel so it shouldnt cost more than the other even tho the v does kuz its the newer one thats out.
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Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 26, 2004 at 3:03 PM
I thought the X would have more demand cause of the carbon fiber look. I like how it looks.
Posted By: Daveyw8vey
Date Posted: August 26, 2004 at 4:11 PM
Well X is standard in the clifford matrix 3.5, but eventually the annoying chirp lowered in volume. Next thing I knew, I changed the battery and it wasn't recognizing, and then it ate batteries up in 2 days or less. I received the viper remote today, same functions, jus no carbon fiber look. To me its all the same, same type of module, all compatible to save money, just different look for those who want somethin different whether u get the python, clifford or viper one. Same 15 channels, background car pic, features, just costs different which it shouldn't. I just chose the viper one kuz the one I owned was the x and I had the defect, trial and error if the viper does it I'll buy the python one, and then after that I'll complain to dei lol. Thanx for the help, I'll keep u posted if anything comes up ------------- Need money to hook up car, donate now =)
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: August 26, 2004 at 4:34 PM
as i mentioned before all of the 479 remotes are cross compatible, just as the 478 remotes were... the only reason they badge them differently is so that they can have 3 different dealers ( or more) in the same market selling essentially the same product... in one city dealer A may sell Clifford, dealer B may sell Viper and dealer C may sell Python, but it's the exact same product, the only difference in the owners manuals and install manuals is the name on the cover
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Posted By: Daveyw8vey
Date Posted: August 26, 2004 at 7:32 PM
well put kgerry ------------- Need money to hook up car, donate now =)
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 26, 2004 at 7:38 PM
Is it really so common for people to have problems with the remote? i just installed mine about 2 weeks ago. Should i be expecting to pick up another one?
Posted By: Daveyw8vey
Date Posted: August 27, 2004 at 1:51 AM
I doubt it, I think it was my battery because when I removed it it had dry stains on it as if the battery leaked. I mean u could drop it, and it might just land wrong or water damage if u have it in ur pocket all the time, happened to me once wit a pager. Pants pockets believe it or not are filled with humidity, u may be hot and not realize sweat has slightly wet ur pockets. But Ive done searches and haven't seen a sure answer for defects, other people said so but I haven't so I wouldn't worry. Im goin to buy another one just for the sake of emergency back up.
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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 27, 2004 at 10:34 AM
Can this thread die yet?
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Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 27, 2004 at 7:45 PM
alright. Doesn't clifford have a led one that works the same?
led remote that looks similar, but without the screen, with colored led indicating doors/hood/trunk/shock
Posted By: Daveyw8vey
Date Posted: August 28, 2004 at 12:27 AM
Yeah they do, they look pretty neat too, only costs like 35$ or so. Im leanin toward gettin one of them instead ------------- Need money to hook up car, donate now =)
Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 28, 2004 at 8:02 PM
hmm.... to bad i gave my addiction to buying things for my car... I was about to buy prox, extra remote, and smart windows...
then i realized i spent over 2gs on my car in the last 6 months... i need to stop my addiction.
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