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Topic: 01 dodge stratus, viper 791xv

Posted By: blingo
Subject: 01 dodge stratus, viper 791xv
Date Posted: August 10, 2004 at 12:29 PM

I have a viper 791xv alarm installed, and I was wondering how I would hook up an ac inverter to turn on when I pressed the right combination of buttons on my responder remote. if possible, i would like to do that, but I would need it to turn off when I arm my car, or shut it down.



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Posted By: lilboi
Date Posted: August 10, 2004 at 2:03 PM
have the aux wire tapped to a relay that will send a constant 12v to the inverter.




Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: August 10, 2004 at 2:15 PM
channel 4 and 5 have a function called, latched. it needs to be program for latch.

then wire it like so:
85:latch wire
86:12volt (+) constant
30:12volt (+) constant
87:12volt (+) from the inverter


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Posted By: blingo
Date Posted: August 10, 2004 at 2:37 PM
okay, will I be able to program it for latch myself? or do i need the place that installed it to do it? 




Posted By: blingo
Date Posted: August 10, 2004 at 3:01 PM
okay, i got the wire that i need for channel 4, now i dont really want to complicate things, but im not sure what the latch thing is for but, will i be able to use the remote to start the inverter, and have the car shut the inverter off when i arm the car or shut the car down?  and so im not limited to using the remote, would i be able to also have it start when i turn the key? uisng an acc wire probably?  or will what you said do all that? Thanks for the help




Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: August 10, 2004 at 3:01 PM
you can program it urself, find ur valet button.

-open a door
-turn ign on and off
-hold down valet button until you hear 2 chirps, then let go
-press 10 times(channel 4) then hold and hear corresponding chirps then press unlock ONLY once. youll hear the siren chirp 2time for latched.

goodl uck!!!


latch- hit once ON, hit again OFF


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Posted By: blingo
Date Posted: August 10, 2004 at 3:10 PM
hmm, latched, reset with ignition should do most of that, thanks again




Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: August 10, 2004 at 3:12 PM
thatll work too, just whatever fits ur need.

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Posted By: blingo
Date Posted: August 10, 2004 at 3:18 PM
yep, thanks. would you have any idea how to do this then.....lets say i dont press the buttons on my remote to start the inverter, i would still want the inverter to turn on when i turned the key, and shut off when i turned the key off.   might sound like something thats not needed, but the inverter is powering an xbox that i use as a media center, the remote control of it is basically for if im in the house, i can power it up and transfer what i need to, to the xbox through the wireless network. and the acc wire setup is for when i go in the car, i always want it to be started up, because its my media center with all my music on it.  if there is an easy way to do this, i will do it, but if not Ill just learn to use the remote all the time instead :P    by the way i do have a master switch on my dash for the inverter, that I would like to keep there, that shouldnt be a problem, but just letting you know incase.  thanks much




Posted By: blingo
Date Posted: August 10, 2004 at 10:44 PM

i got it setup as aux chan 4 on my viper alarm, and works great, thanks again profuse007

i was wondering if i could put another relay in....it would have a wire from the auxchan4 and acc wire coming into it, and 1 wire coming out of it going to where the auxchan4 wire is now on my relay for the inverter, would that work to allow me to use the remote, and just turn the key to start it, and turn off the ignition to turn it off? and not allow any feedback?   so basically, can you have 2 wires going into a relay, and have the relay only close 1 switch , the first one to have power to it, and ignore the other wire?





Posted By: blingo
Date Posted: August 12, 2004 at 7:42 PM

can i connect an aux output from a viper alarm to a relay, and using the same place that wire goes on the relay, connect an acc wire, w/o doing any damage?  what will happen is....sometimes i may use the aux output to start an inverter via remote, but I want it always on when i start the car, which is why i want the acc wire hooked up to it.   so, can i hook up 2 wires that control the relay w/o messing anything up?





Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 12, 2004 at 10:30 PM
I think this is what you are asking for, you want an inverter to turn on when ever the ignition is on and you want to be able to turn it on with the remote as well when the ign is off.

Pin 85 (-) acc output, 86 constant +12V, 30 output to inverter, 87A ign or acc wire from car, 87 constant +12V.

This will allow the inverter to turn on with the ign and allow you to turn the inverter on with the remote even when the ign is off. You will also need to take into consideration what type of output your alarm has, pulse or latched.

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Posted By: blingo
Date Posted: August 12, 2004 at 10:58 PM

Auex, yep that is what I want to do.  My current setup now is...

Pin 85 Aux Chan 4 Wire, 86 12V + Constant, 87 12V+ to inverter, 30 12V+ Constant

You said 87A and 87, but no 85, do I have a wrong relay?  Right now with the current setup it does let me control it with my remote. My aux channel 4 is set to latched, reset with ignition, so it will stay on until I turn on and off my ignition. Do i just want to set that to latched, and will my acc wire shut it off? Or will the aux channel over power the acc wire? Also what happens if I use the remote to turn it on, then get in my car and start it while the inverter is already on. Will that fry something, or shut off the inverter? If it is set to Latched only, and I use the remote to turn it on, then start my car, and turn it off, will the inverter turn off when I turn the igntion off, or will I have to press the buttons on my remote for aux chan 4 again to shut it back off?

Thanks for the help





Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 12, 2004 at 10:59 PM
Your relay should look like this.

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The one thing I am not taking into account is the way you are turning the inverter on with the key. You should have a relay set up for this as well.

As far as turning the relay off, it depends on the alarm. I know on dei you can program the output to be latched with ignition reset, alarm will turn the relay off when the ignition is activated. So if that is how your alarm is set up then you are set.

If you wire the relay the way I said earlier I don't see any complications that would put your inverter in harm.

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Posted By: blingo
Date Posted: August 12, 2004 at 11:49 PM

Okay sounds good, so the way you said to wire up the relay earlier will allow me to turn the inverter on by turning the key or using my remote, just using 1 relay then, right? And I have a Viper 791xv, so I'll keep that setup as latched with ignition reset, that way it will go off no matter how I started it when I take the key out. If you need more details on this, what is being done is, the inverter powers my xbox, and I use it as a media center, with all my music on it, so I need it to be on everytime I start the car, and to shut off everytime I leave the car, and I also have the remote hooked up to it, so I can start it from my house, ftp to the xbox and update my music and whatnot. Im not sure if that info will change anything, but just in case.

Thanks Again





Posted By: blingo
Date Posted: August 16, 2004 at 10:42 PM

just a quick question on the dei 530t, i have 4 windows that i want to auto roll up when i arm, and let me open all of them when I press a certain button.

will i be able to hook both modules up to the same aux channel, so I just press the button 1 time and it will roll down all 4 windows? and when I arm, it automatically rolls up all 4 windows?  to do that on the same aux channel, can I simply splice the aux chan wire coming from the viper 791xv brains, and hook it up to each module?

Thanks





Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 16, 2004 at 11:27 PM
It should work, try it. If it doesn't then just get a relay.

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Posted By: dBDevil
Date Posted: August 17, 2004 at 1:00 AM
No. The 530t only has enough output to do 2 windows. Plus if you jumped say the two left windows together, you could hit the front left and both left would go down. Live with two, or buy another module.




Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 17, 2004 at 9:39 AM
By you using the term "both modules" I assume you have 2 window modules. If not then you will need two.

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Posted By: blingo
Date Posted: August 17, 2004 at 10:03 AM

Yeah, I meant having 2 modules.

One last thing I believe, I am installing 2- 530T modules into a 01 Dodge Stratus, that has 1 - 2 stage shock sensor, am I going to need the 610T to bypass the sensor so I dont set off the alarm if I want to vent or open the windows completly via remote with the system is armed? Or is the 610T needed more for other type sensor bypassing, in this case.





Posted By: blingo
Date Posted: August 17, 2004 at 2:48 PM
i was reading the viper 791xv owners guide, and it says The on-board relay can control most power trunk releases. I do have a power trunk release, on a 01 dodge stratus, and i wanted to know how do i hook that up to the alarm so i can pop via the remote using aux chan 2.




Posted By: blingo
Date Posted: August 19, 2004 at 4:18 PM
when I shut the car off now, and pull the door handle to get out, i hear the noise of the locks, they are trying to unlock, but they are already unlocked.   ive only messed with the aux channels of the alarm, did i mess something else up, and if so, what, and how do i fix that?




Posted By: blingo
Date Posted: August 19, 2004 at 5:01 PM
to be exact....the doors try to unlock again, after i pull the driver side door handle, and it goes right after i open the door a little, so it might be something with the door sensors? any ideas?




Posted By: blingo
Date Posted: August 20, 2004 at 4:28 PM

when I shut the car off now, and pull the door handle to get out, then open the door slightly, i hear the noise of the locks, they are trying to unlock, but they are already unlocked. it only happens with the drivers door, after the car has been put in the on posistion or started and shut off. anyone know whats wrong, and how to fix it?

thanks





Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 20, 2004 at 4:54 PM
Vague. What kind of vehicle, factory or aftermarket locks, ignition controlled by car or alarm, or any other useful info would be nice.

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Posted By: blingo
Date Posted: August 20, 2004 at 5:09 PM
its on a 01 dodge stratus, they are factory locks, with a viper 791xv installed. i believe this started happening after i hooked up aux channel 4 to a relay that powers my inverter, which still works.    im pretty sure it has to do with the door sensor on the driver side door, because once i open the door enough for the dome light to go on, thats when it happens.   it makes the noise of the locks unlocking, but they are already unlocked, because they automatically unlock after the car's ignition turns off, and thats a factory thing, the alarm's ignition controlled locks are off.   any ideas?




Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 20, 2004 at 5:11 PM
I have seen something similiar before. I had a customer that came back to the shop for her locks that would keep trying to unlock when she was driving down the road. It turned out to be a bad bcm. What sucks is that the vehicle was out of warranty. I have actually seen this problem 2 times both had the same solution, replace the bcm.

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Posted By: blingo
Date Posted: August 20, 2004 at 5:21 PM

Okay will do, thanks Auex.

By the way, do you think this has anything to do with me connecting my aux chan 4 wire from my alarm to a relay to power my inverter, or connecting aux chan 2 wire from the alarm to a relay that pops my trunk via remote? Or do these things just happen by themselves?





Posted By: mobilevt
Date Posted: August 21, 2004 at 12:30 AM

I did outfit my work truck with an inverter wired to my remote.  Burned it out!  Discovered that the inverter should NOT be on when starting the car.  I installed a time-out timer that disconnects the inverter thru the inverter switch by interrupting the "on" circuit on a relay.

Hope the advice helps you somewhat.

Sean

blingo wrote:

Okay sounds good, so the way you said to wire up the relay earlier will allow me to turn the inverter on by turning the key or using my remote, just using 1 relay then, right? And I have a Viper 791xv, so I'll keep that setup as latched with ignition reset, that way it will go off no matter how I started it when I take the key out. If you need more details on this, what is being done is, the inverter powers my xbox, and I use it as a media center, with all my music on it, so I need it to be on everytime I start the car, and to shut off everytime I leave the car, and I also have the remote hooked up to it, so I can start it from my house, ftp to the xbox and update my music and whatnot. Im not sure if that info will change anything, but just in case.

Thanks Again




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