Need DEI Directwire info, please
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Topic: Need DEI Directwire info, please
Posted By: jal901
Subject: Need DEI Directwire info, please
Date Posted: August 31, 2004 at 11:00 AM
I have a copy of the DEI Directwire wiring information for a 1995 Honda Passport. It lists 2 starter wires (no other documents I have found, including the factory electrical manual mention anything for a 2nd starter wire). It is a long story regarding the 94/95/95.5 model years, so I won't bore you with it now. I have seen the wiring pages here on "the12volt". I want to compare them to the DEI "Directwire" info. DEI's website requires a dealer password, so I can't access it easily. I would like a link to the DEI Directwire page that shows the wiring information for a 1994 Honda Passport. If you cannot provide that link can you look up the following information for me.... From ***DEI's "Directwire"*** page for 1994 Honda Passport: does it show wiring for a "Second Starter"... if so, what does it say? Thank you
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Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: August 31, 2004 at 11:18 AM
1994
| ITEM | WIRE COLOR |POL| WIRE LOCATION |
| 12V|black |+ |ignition harness |
| STARTER|wht/blu or blk/wht |+ |ignition harness |
| SECOND STARTER|blk/red or green |+ |ignition harness |
| IGNITION|BLACK / YELLOW |+ |ignition harness |
| ACCESSORY|blue |+ |ignition harness |
| POWER LOCK|add actuator | |in drivers door |
| POWER UNLOCK| | | |
| PARKING LIGHTS +|GREEN/ red | |by left front speaker |
| HEADLIGHTS|RED / blue |- |at light switch |
| DOOR TRIGGER|RED / green |- |2 pin plug by LF spkr. |
| TRUNK/HATCH PIN|lt. green |- |drivers kick or *2 |
|TRNK/HTCH RELEASE|RED / blue |+ |at switch |
| TACHOMETER|blue, BLACK/ red | |at coil, coil pack |
| BRAKE WIRE|red |+ |brake pedal switch |
| HORN TRIGGER|GREEN/ red *3 |- |steering column |
| WIPERS|blue |+ |at switch |
| LF WINDOW UP/DN|RED / yel - grn/yel |A |drivers door switch |
| RF WINDOW UP/DN|blu/wht - blu/blk *1|A |drivers door switch |
| LR WINDOW UP/DN|RED / blu - grn/blu *1|A |drivers door switch |
| RR WINDOW UP/DN|RED / blk - grn/blk *1|A |drivers door switch |
Notes:
*1 The window wires change color in the drivers kick. The R.F. window is grn/red for up and RED / yel for down. The L.R. window is grn/orn for up and RED / blk for down. The R.R. window is grn/blu for up and red for down. *2 behind left rear side panel at the rear wiper diode. *3 High-current ground. Use a relay when interfacing with this circuit.
1995
| ITEM | WIRE COLOR |POL| WIRE LOCATION |
| 12V|black |+ |ignition harness |
| STARTER|wht/blu or blk/wht |+ |ignition harness |
| SECOND STARTER|blk/red or green |+ |ignition harness |
| IGNITION|BLACK / YELLOW |+ |ignition harness |
| ACCESSORY|blue |+ |ignition harness |
| POWER LOCK|add actuator | |in drivers door |
| POWER UNLOCK| | | |
| PARKING LIGHTS +|GREEN/ red | |by left front speaker |
| HEADLIGHTS|RED / blue |- |at light switch |
| DOOR TRIGGER|RED / green |- |2 pin plug by LF spkr. |
| TRUNK/HATCH PIN|lt. green |- |drivers kick or *2 |
|TRNK/HTCH RELEASE|RED / blue |+ |at switch |
| TACHOMETER|blue, BLACK/ red | |at coil, coil pack |
| BRAKE WIRE|red |+ |brake pedal switch |
| HORN TRIGGER|GREEN/ red *3 |- |steering column |
| WIPERS|blue |+ |at switch |
| LF WINDOW UP/DN|RED / yel - grn/yel |A |drivers door switch |
| RF WINDOW UP/DN|blu/wht - blu/blk *1|A |drivers door switch |
| LR WINDOW UP/DN|RED / blu - grn/blu *1|A |drivers door switch |
| RR WINDOW UP/DN|RED / blk - grn/blk *1|A |drivers door switch |
Notes:
NOTE: For 95.5 models use the 96 diagram. *1 The window wires change color in the drivers kick. The R.F. window is grn/red for up and RED / yel for down. The L.R. window is grn/orn for up and RED / blk for down. The R.R. window is grn/blu for up and red for down. *2 behind left rear side panel at the rear wiper diode. *3 High-current ground. Use a relay when interfacing with this circuit.
Posted By: jal901
Date Posted: August 31, 2004 at 12:21 PM
Thank you for the quick reply. From this DEI information it appears there are 2 starter circuits, HOWEVER both the Honda factory "Electrical Trouble Shooting Manual" (effectively the wiring book for the car) does NOT show anything about a 2nd starter circuit, nor does the information available on the12volt (this website) show anything about a 2nd starter. I am trying to prepare as much as possible before actually starting the installation of a Clarion SR5000. Once I have started the installation I will check every circuit (and not make any assumptions regarding any wiring diagrams). However, it does appear that the DEI information regarding a 2nd starter circuit is not correct. Am I REASONABLY safe in making the assumption there is ***probably*** not a 2nd starter circuit in a 1995 Honda Passport and the DEI information is not correct? Thank you
Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: August 31, 2004 at 5:52 PM
I have NO mention of 2 Start wires: | Constant 12 volts | BLACK | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | | Ignition 12 volts | BLACK / YELLOW | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | | Starter | BLACK/ WHITE OR BLK/RED | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | | Dome Light | RED / GREEN OR BLACK
(-) | 2 WAY WHT CONN.BEHIND DRV FRT SPEAKER | | Trunk Pin Switch | LIGHT GREEN (-) DRIVER | QUARTER PANEL BEHIND REAR WASHER | | Parking Lamp | GREEN/ RED | (+) AT HEADLIGHT SW.OR DRIVER KICK | | Power Lock | ADD ACTUATOR | ADD ACTUATOR TO DRIVER DOOR | | Power Unlock | ADD ACTUATOR | ADD ACTUATOR TO DRIVER DOOR * |
* 1995 1/2 Passport Door Locks: L GREEN/ RED (Lock) & RED / WHITE (Unlock) In Driver Kick Panel. Negative Pulse Door Lock | Accessories | | Window Up | D\ BLU/BLK P\ GRN/RED D\ GRN/WHT P\ GRN/BLU @ MAIN Switch | | | Window Down | F/ BLU/RED F/ RED / YEL R/ RED / BLU R/ RED | | | Ign Key Warn | GREEN / WHITE (+) 2 WAY | WHITE CONN. ABOVE PARK BRAKE * | | Trunk Release | RED / BLUE (+) | AT TAILGATE GLASS RELEASE SWITCH | | OEM Horn | BLACK/ ORANGE (-) | 13 WAY WHITE CONN.ABOVE PARK BRAKE | | Headlights | RED / BLUE (-) | AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH OR AT RELAY ** | | OEM Alarm Arm | N/A | | | OEM Alarm Disarm | N/A | |
Reversal Rest At Ground Power Window Circuit . * GREEN / WHITE Changes Color To RED At This Connector. ** Headlight Relay Located In Fuse/Relay Block In Passenger Side Of Engine Compartment. Output To Headlights: RED / WHT (Dr) & RED / GRN (Ps) (+), One Circuit, Two Fuses. | Remote Start | | Tach Signal | BLUE (2.6L) OR | BLACK/ RED (3.2L) SEE NOTES * | | Ignition #2 | N/A | | | Ignition #3 | N/A | | | Accessory | BLUE OR BLACK | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS ** | | Neutral Safety | YELLOW CHANGES TO | WHITE/ GREEN AT GEAR SELECT SWITCH | | Brake Light | RED | (+) AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL | | Reverse Light | RED / YELLOW (+) | WHITE 20 WAY CONN.-DRIVER KICK PANEL | | Rear Window Defrost | | |
* 2.6L Engine BLUE Tach Wire Located On Passenger Side Of Engine Compartment (Single BLUE Wire With Female Bullet Terminal In Clear Insulator). 3.2L Engine BLACK/ RED Tach Wire Located At Black 6 Pin Plug On Electronic Ignition Module On Front Of Engine. ------------- MO
Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.
Posted By: jal901
Date Posted: August 31, 2004 at 6:24 PM
mo12v] wrote:
p>I have NO mention of 2 Start wires:......
<tables snipped> The tables you sent appear similar to the information I have in my factory manual. If you don't mind, can you tell me/us what was the source of the tables you sent? Thank you
Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: August 31, 2004 at 8:47 PM
Prob all the wire your self and see what you coem up with. if putting a alarm in cut the starter wire and try and start the car.
My other guide dont mention it either. Only reason i can think of you, you dotn need it for remote start, but normally they mention that.
Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: August 31, 2004 at 10:12 PM
Omega & Micro
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MO
Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.
Posted By: sroth140
Date Posted: August 31, 2004 at 11:38 PM
cut the 2nd starter wire and see if the vehicle starts. and vise-versa with the first starter wire. ------------- MECP certified installer
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