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DEI 555f problems

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 03, 2024 at 11:24 AM


Topic: DEI 555f problems

Posted By: boston1918
Subject: DEI 555f problems
Date Posted: October 16, 2004 at 3:26 PM

I have this unit installed in my truck with an APS996, and it used to work fine but then the remote start stopped working and will only crank now. I reprogrammed it and it starts when I do that, but right after I retry and it just goes back to cranking until I reprogram it and it works one time again. The capsule is secure and close to the ignition and I don't move it. Anyone have any ideas?



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Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: October 16, 2004 at 4:27 PM
U may want to make sure the Relay on the 555 is activating when U Remote Start.  It doesn't sound like the 555 is programming
Have U tried Remote Starting with the Key in the Ignition?

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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: boston1918
Date Posted: October 16, 2004 at 6:39 PM

It starts with the key in no problem, and will start one time when I program the capsule.  After that is won't work again.  If the relay wasn't activating, why would it work one time?

mo12v] wrote:

may want to make sure the Relay on the 555 is activating when U Remote Start.  It doesn't sound like the 555 is programming
Have U tried Remote Starting with the Key in the Ignition?





Posted By: partyguy
Date Posted: October 16, 2004 at 8:57 PM
make sure the wire is wrapped in a constant cirlce pattern around the key cylinder crossing it over and over can sometimes cause it to not work. i ran into this problem last week and that solved it.

Jer




Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: October 16, 2004 at 9:03 PM

Do NOT know how much time has passed when you say U programmed and it only starts 1 time
U can start Fords with PATS, with RS within 30 seconds of having key in ignition, running & then turning Key off and removing key
That is why I posted:
U may want to make sure the Relay on the 555 is activating when U Remote Start.  It doesn't sound like the 555 is programming
Have U tried Remote Starting with the Key in the Ignition?
Not starting vehicle with KEY............



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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: October 16, 2004 at 9:06 PM
it won't start when programming if the capsule you're learning is no present.

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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta




Posted By: boston1918
Date Posted: October 16, 2004 at 11:53 PM

The vehicle will start with the key in, using the remote start, I didn't word it right.  The vehicle will NOT start within 30 seconds unless the capsule it present.  All it will do is turn over.  Below is exactly what is happening, these things are hard to express on a board.

1.Put in first key, wait until theft light goes out

2.Put in second key, wait until theft light goes out

3.Put capsule close to ignition and start within 10 seconds, and will start no problem as long as capsule is positioned right

4.Turn vehicle off and try to start with remote start and all it does is crank.  If I repeat 1-3 it will work again.

Anyone know what is wrong?  My only guess is that it is not storing the programming, or when I turn the vehicle off it somehow clears.  It used to work fine and nothing was changed.

mo12v] wrote:

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Do NOT know how much time has passed when you say U programmed and it only starts 1 time
U can start Fords with PATS, with RS within 30 seconds of having key in ignition, running & then turning Key off and removing key
That is why I posted:
U may want to make sure the Relay on the 555 is activating when U Remote Start.  It doesn't sound like the 555 is programming
Have U tried Remote Starting with the Key in the Ignition?
Not starting vehicle with KEY............






Posted By: boston1918
Date Posted: October 16, 2004 at 11:55 PM

How do I knowi f the relay is activating?  The 555f must be working somewhat if it allows it to start initially doesn't it?  It won't start without it, so part of it is working.

(QUOTE)-U may want to make sure the Relay on the 555 is activating when U Remote Start.  It doesn't sound like the 555 is programming
Have U tried Remote Starting with the Key in the Ignition?





Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: October 17, 2004 at 11:42 AM
Well, U could put your hand on it to feel the "click" or meter it
How long after U "program it" can U Remote Start the vehicle?
Will it Remote Start "1 time" after 20 minutes or will it Remote Start "1 time" after you start vehicle with Key ,  turn off and Remove key and wait 10 or so minutes?
Hope I'm not rattling your brain.......

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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: boston1918
Date Posted: October 17, 2004 at 12:48 PM

It only works the time I program it, it doesn't work after that.  After taking the 2 keys out and putting the capsule in front it starts that time only.  One minute or 4 days after doesn't make a difference, it only works when programming it.

mo12v] wrote:

ell, U could put your hand on it to feel the "click" or meter it
How long after U "program it" can U Remote Start the vehicle?
Will it Remote Start "1 time" after 20 minutes or will it Remote Start "1 time" after you start vehicle with Key ,  turn off and Remove key and wait 10 or so minutes?
Hope I'm not rattling your brain.......





Posted By: boston1918
Date Posted: October 17, 2004 at 12:52 PM
mo12v] wrote:

ell, U could put your hand on it to feel the "click" or meter it
How long after U "program it" can U Remote Start the vehicle?
Will it Remote Start "1 time" after 20 minutes or will it Remote Start "1 time" after you start vehicle with Key ,  turn off and Remove key and wait 10 or so minutes?
Hope I'm not rattling your brain.......




Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: October 17, 2004 at 3:20 PM

That's the trouble with posting, understanding everybody:

<<<It only works the time I program it, it doesn't work after that.  After taking the 2 keys out and putting the capsule in front it starts that time only.  One minute or 4 days after doesn't make a difference, it only works when programming it.>>>

Reading this tells me  U are trying to program 555 and then putting capsule next to cylinder
The capsule should be mounted first, then programming should be done



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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: boston1918
Date Posted: October 18, 2004 at 1:27 AM

The capsule is already mounted, I said it that way so that you would know it was during programming that it works, and not after.  I programmed it by holding it, and I have tried with it already mounted and the results are the same.  Do you have any idea what is wrong?  The capsule is learning the code at least one time to make it start, but it is not holding it/





Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: October 18, 2004 at 8:29 AM
Assuming that U have the 12 volt wire to Constant 12 volts and the Trigger wire to Negative Output while running from RS.  And U have programmed according to directions
Next option would be to replace 555
I have seen these units NOT work with some Fords

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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: boston1918
Date Posted: October 18, 2004 at 2:08 PM

It has to be wired right, because it already worked before, it just stopped working.  And since it worked before then it's not an issue of the 555f not working with my model vehicle.






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