Cant get out of valet mode
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: July 30, 2025 at 8:15 PM
Topic: Cant get out of valet mode
Posted By: cpgoose
Subject: Cant get out of valet mode
Date Posted: October 02, 2002 at 6:46 AM
Hey...everything was working fine with my alarm (Viper 550esp). I installed (almost done) a 530t, so I turned off the anti-grind feature as it said to. I also put the alarm in Valet mode because I was working on it. Now, I went to put the car back into normal mode, and nothing happens. The LED won't light up and the valet switch ain't doing a thing! Some other odd things are happening, too, so hopefully they're all related. (1)When I did a pit-stop feature with the remote starter, after I hit the remote's button to go into pit-stop mode, and turned the key back, it re-cranked (ccrrrrr!). (2) I have the domelight supervision thingie that goes on when you unlock the doors...and stays on until you put the key in the ignition and turn it. Well, the light is staying on for as long as it likes too. I tried to even hold in the valet switch to make it beep (like if I was programming it), but got nothing. I tried to get out of Valet with the remote (open the door, hit the lock....), but no go. But the panic on the alarm, the keyless entry, the trunk pop, are all still working. The 530t is sort of working, but it' s not rolling up the windows upon arming (this is what started it all, I thought it was because the car was in Valet mode). Any ideas? I'm stumped. IF a fuse was blown, wouldn't things like keyless entry not work? THANKS!!! 
Replies:
Posted By: the12volt
Date Posted: October 02, 2002 at 7:52 AM
If your valet switch is okay, you most likely do not have 12V+ showing on the alarm's ignition lead when the key is in the "run" position. Double check your ignition connection and let us know what you find. the12volt
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: October 02, 2002 at 9:06 AM
Thanks! Do you mean the PINK wire from the remote start relay satellite? I just noticed that the only YELLOW wire (from my experience that is the Alarm's Ignition Wire) that I have is the one on the remote start harness (a 5-pin connector)....so it's not something that I had to "wire".
Posted By: mobiletoys2002
Date Posted: October 02, 2002 at 12:16 PM
the main harness should have a yellow wire that runs to the starter kill rerlay and this is you r ignition input to the alarm thius wire has to see 12 volts when th ekey is turned on to access valet mode or programing of the alarm, also if a door input is not connected to the alarm... programing the unit is not possible.
Posted By: mobiletoys2002
Date Posted: October 02, 2002 at 12:29 PM
also the pink wire and the yellow wire can be connected together to yur ignition wire in the car the pink wire is the heavy guage off the relay satelite. one easy way to know if you have the yellow connected is to arm the alarm and turn the ignbition switch if aLARM DOES NOT SOUND YOU HAVE NO CONNECTION ON THE YELLOW WIRE.
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: October 02, 2002 at 1:24 PM
Quote: Originally posted by mobiletoys2002 on October 02, 2002
one easy way to know if you have the yellow connected is to arm the alarm and turn the ignbition switch if aLARM DOES NOT SOUND YOU HAVE NO CONNECTION ON THE YELLOW WIRE.
Hmmm.....can't do that because the alarm would never sound if I'm stuck in Valet mode, right? I have no lock/unlock chirps and no lit LED. But I will definitely check these wires, maybe one of the ignition wires came loose. Thanks....I'lll let you know what I find.
Posted By: djfearny2
Date Posted: October 02, 2002 at 1:25 PM
well try to start the car with it armed does not mean it will go off , it just should not start if you jerk the key than maybe it will go off do to vibration into the sensor. i say dissconnect window mod first than try everything . how did you connect window mod if its deis version did you use activation wires and negative output while inuse wires together orange and grey i think i am not sure with the 530t and what did you use to activate. the lock unlock wire? is that wire possitive or negative , it needs a negative signal to activate mod. let us know to more help you ------------- Jon
Installer/Help Technician
---coral springs florida---
mecp certification is not always needed. I have it and it has not helped me out at all. my experience out shines it.
Posted By: mobiletoys2002
Date Posted: October 02, 2002 at 1:39 PM
yes if the alarm is in valet mode it will not sound the alarm nor will it kill the starter so you need to double check that yellow wire i talked about in the above post. valet mode only allows locks and lights to work without the siren and remote start will still work , that is all that will work in valet mode. did you use the orandge wire to trigger the window module?????????
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: October 02, 2002 at 1:53 PM
Yes, I used the orange wire....I have the orange from the alarm going to the orange of the starter kill (with a diode in between the two). And then I piggybacked the orange wire of the 530t onto the alarm's orange wire between the diode and the brain. Just like the pic: 
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: October 02, 2002 at 1:58 PM
well try to start the car with it armed does not mean it will go off , it just should not start if you jerk the key than maybe it will go off do to vibration into the sensor. - well, the car will start and the vibration won't set off the sensor because the car acts like it's in valet mode. how did you connect window mod - I connected the orange wire of the 530t to the orange wire of the brain (as in the above pic). I did nothing with the grey wire of the 530t.
Posted By: djfearny2
Date Posted: October 02, 2002 at 2:01 PM
well than yea the window mod will not work in velet mode cause that orange wire is disabled something this is weired and all you wires are plugged in ex" valet switch check to see if valet switch is ok unplug it from alarm use a dmm and set it to continuity and place on prong on each of the two prong plug in adapter and than press button if you cat no noise there is a brake in the wire. if you do have car started and then replug the valet switch and play with it. you know that the car has to be in acc mode or runnning to take out of valet mode two clicks on key first click is not good enough.
------------- Jon
Installer/Help Technician
---coral springs florida---
mecp certification is not always needed. I have it and it has not helped me out at all. my experience out shines it.
Posted By: mobiletoys2002
Date Posted: October 02, 2002 at 2:16 PM
cp is your door trigers conected???????open a door if they are conected and try to turn valet off that way. accesory mode wont take a viper out of valet if he used th ecorect ignition wire .
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: October 02, 2002 at 2:22 PM
yep...door triggers are connected. they were working fine before I got stuck like this. I tried opening the door, and using the remote to get out of valet, but the same thing happened (nothing).
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: October 02, 2002 at 6:15 PM
HELP!!!Ok, I did a little investigating. It turns out I was stuck in Valet mode. Why I couldn't get out of it with the Valet switch or the remote is still beyond me. Check this out: Tested the valet switch for continuity. Checked OK. So I started looking at my install under the dash. I was moving the relay satellite (for the RS), and the doors tried to unlock. Huh? It turns out that when I wiggled the wires under there, the doors tried to unlock. It also turns out that it only did this when the KEY was in the RUN position. So in other words, somehow, one of the two IGNITION wires is giving power to the door locks....either to the relay or to the door wire on the alarm. I'M SO CONFUSED!!!!! I was unable to isolate what was giving it power. I checked the wires, and nothing that I could see was exposed. But the part I don't get is what is being power with the ignition wires that would do this? The only thing that's connected to them is the Ignition wires off the relay satellite. HELP PLEASE!
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: October 02, 2002 at 7:25 PM
Ok, I messed with it...messed with it some more, and then some more. I was just trying to absolutely pinpoint what was causing this. I think I may have narrowed it down to the 5-pin remote start harness that goes from the relay satellite to the brain. I tried to keep everything very still, and just move this harness...and it was sort-of setting off the door relay...so I think this could be it. All 5 wires are taped up...so is it possible that two of these wires are semi-stripped, and are touching? But why would this cause the door locks to unlock? Unless....maybe they're making the brain think the car just shut off everytime, and so the doors would open? That's a long shot, but all I could think of for now. Hopefully, someone has an idea?
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: October 03, 2002 at 6:14 AM
Here's a little more info: When I unplugged the 5-pin harness from the brain, it wouldn't create this error anymore (unlock the doors). I'm so confused. And yes, for the previous suggestions, I did have 12v at the yellow wire in the starter kill relay. Any ideas what could be wrong?
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: October 04, 2002 at 6:50 AM
Ok, I think I may have "sort-of" narrowed this down. When I jiggled the small yellow wire from the 5-pin harness and the larger pink wire from the relay satellite right where both of these are attached to the (same) relay in the relay satellite, the ignition power was cut (with the key in the ignition). Therefore, the alarm thought the car was shutting off, and tried to unlock the doors (and turn on the dome light). I turned off the ign-controlled door locks, and it stopped happening, but the domelight still came on. I replaced that relay from the satellite and the domelight relay (just in case) and had the same problem....so I put them back in. Can I have a defective relay....or could something else cause this problem?
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: October 04, 2002 at 7:35 PM
HI, Just to add a little more to this...I was able to get the car out of valet mode with the remote. So that's ok now....still don't know why the valet switch wouldn't work. Here's 2 other things that have happened though: 1. When I remotely start the car.....walk up to the car and remotely unlock the doors and the domelight comes on....then enter the car, put the key in the ignition and step on the brake to turn off the remote starter....the domelight stays on for a little longer. It used to shut off when I hit the brake. 2. I was driving down the highway with the cruise control on. When I hit the brake to turn off the cruise, the alarm went off! Oi!!! Ok, if anyone has anymore ideas, lemme know
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