$10.00 to the right answer! Alarm Prob!
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: $10.00 to the right answer! Alarm Prob!
Posted By: snmtazz
Subject: $10.00 to the right answer! Alarm Prob!
Date Posted: October 19, 2004 at 5:54 PM
I have a 2002 Chevy S10. Installed is a Clifford Concept 600. It has been operating 10 months with no problems! Now, when I shut the door,the dome light turns off,alarm arms and the dome light comes on and stays on the 20 min cut off.The alarm also beeps three times when armed stating the trigger is open. Next, when driving the doors lock then the driver's door lock unlocks, dome light goes on. If I leave both locks open the dome light goes off! Clifford Authorized dealer advised they unplugged the alarm and dome/locks still acting up so dealer problem! Chevy dealer advised alarm problem, disconnected green wire connected to two resistors on alarm no dome light problem. Also stated drivers door getting constant ground to BCM from alarm. After $150.00 at the dealer!!!!! Going back to the Clifford dealer!!! Been on other forums no help! Sounds like resistors to me??? First RIGHT answer gets $10.00 paypal! Matt snmtazz@yahoo.com
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Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: October 19, 2004 at 5:56 PM
Needs diode isolation.
Regards
EVIL Teken . . .
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 19, 2004 at 6:11 PM
That or else relay & isolate : ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: October 19, 2004 at 10:07 PM
The green wire that the chevy dealer disconnected must have had diodes connected, not resistors. The diodes were isolating the drivers door trigger from the passenger door trigger. Perhaps the two diodes were coming into contact with each other on occasion and causing troubles. I understood what you were describing as far as the types of problems you are having, but it would help to know more detail about the frequency and consistency of the problems. Are these problems very consistent? Also, after the chevy dealer disconnected the wire, and the dome light problem went away, did the door locking and unlocking go away also? All the detail you can come up with is very helpful. When I run into a problem, the only way to solve it is to test the system and find out the exact sequence of events that takes place before during and after the problem. Then see if it occurs the same way the next time.
I think it sounds like you need to re-diode isolate the two door trigger wires like teken and velocity already mentioned, but without further detail, I could not say much about the door locks malfunctioning. There are so many different door lock features these days that you really need to know what yours are set to in order to know what it trying to do. If you have ignition controlled locks it might help to turn them off until you have the problem solved. Both the vehicle and the alarm have ignition controlled locks of some form or another so you will need to address both. The dealer can turn off the alarms part, and the owners manual fro your car should tell you how to do so for your car.
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: thepencil
Date Posted: October 20, 2004 at 9:56 AM
I am very sure the right answer is Diode Isolation and Teken has beaten us all to the $10 bucks. One more thing that I would add is if there is an led being loop back to the alarm unit and groud wire is touching the car body. You get dome light to go on as a result. ------------- Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it. 
Posted By: snmtazz
Date Posted: October 21, 2004 at 6:52 PM
Both of the door were on diodes! Nope, both wires totally disconnected from the BCM and the problems still persist! The dealer told me that was the problem but it was not after he disconnected the green wires from the alarm. I think the automatic shut off happened just in time. The problem is constant. My buddy said it sounded like the BCM, Monday I'll be taking to another dealer(friend) to be looked at again! Thanks for all the continued help! MATT
Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: October 21, 2004 at 7:09 PM
Sounds like a Intermittent Power problem, like a loose wire, bad connection, or loose ground, plug, etc.
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MO
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You Might Be the One That Knows.
Posted By: snmtazz
Date Posted: November 23, 2004 at 3:19 PM
Tried the BCM and it is working fine! Has to be the poppers or the door lock trigger grounding out. I will get back to everyone and $10.00 to the right person!!! Car has been at the dealer almost 5 weeks and not the problem! Matt
Posted By: SoundFX411
Date Posted: November 23, 2004 at 7:12 PM
Did you check to see if any of the wires going from the truck to the door are pinched. You said it happens when you close the door. I had a similar problem with an Astro Van that drove me crazy.Did you remove the door sill plates and reinstall? Could be one of the screws or clips is pinching the wires. Just a thought
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SoundFX
Posted By: snmtazz
Date Posted: November 23, 2004 at 9:00 PM
OK! Disconnected alarm box(all) still did the same thing! Took power lock fuse out, still did it!!! I checked my wifes Blazer and ..... when you shut the doors,dome goes off and you can unlock/lock the doors manually and no light goes on! So in my S10 truck I do the same thing but on the pasenger side, when I lock it the dome light comes on! Finally I believe it's the lock itself(maybe stuck from dynamat or ...) or the door poppers/solenoid! To Be Continued! Matt
Posted By: snmtazz
Date Posted: November 24, 2004 at 8:34 PM
Took the passenger panel off and disconnected the solenoid(problem stayed),Disconnected both connections I found to the door latch(problem stayed), then I disconnected the module on the door for all the connections to the door and IT WORKED, No Problem! So the module has so many wires on it I have to narrow it down! ANy suggustions?? Look for a grounded wire or ??? Thanks, Matt
Posted By: iguana3
Date Posted: November 25, 2004 at 11:45 AM
Hi: You should check the conector between the door and the kick panel, it may damaged, because you have disconnected all the alarm, and you still having problems, then re check caonnection by connection, that others mention, te diodes are for isiloate the pins, thats rigth, youe should connect it again in the same way. Either, test inside the door, it may some wire was damaged. Good Luck ------------- OSCAR BRAVO
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Posted By: snmtazz
Date Posted: November 26, 2004 at 9:57 PM
Here is the problem! There are three plugs to the door latch, the top one (blue w/white stripe wire,orange wire and black wire) is the bad or signaling the bcm to turn on the dome light.
Can anyone tell me what that plug is for??? I unplugged it and can't find anything wrong or what it is for.
Thanks,
Matt
Posted By: tbirdman74
Date Posted: November 27, 2004 at 9:12 AM
Just shootin from the hip here, but if you are talking about the wires going the the door latch inside the door, then I am guessing that it is a dome light switch on the latch, and it has gone bad, or from what you said, you have door poppers, and they may be interfering with the switches operation. Suggest testing the switch in the latch (assuming that it is what they go to) to see if it is bad. One way to tell is unhook plug as stated and see if dome light functions. If it wont come on with that door open, then the wires belong to that circuit. Good luck.
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If it don't fit, Force it.
If it breaks, You needed a new one anyway!
Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: November 27, 2004 at 9:20 AM
ok, can someone catch me up to speed here??????
im hoping to get lunch money for work.....lol
what the truck doing?????? ------------- Good Luck
David
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Posted By: snmtazz
Date Posted: November 28, 2004 at 11:08 PM
Thanks Birdman! I unplugged one of the three wire connections connected to the latch and it stopped the problem. I just want to know what that plug is for because I can not find any reason for it. I ordered a new latch so hopefully that will do it! Any GM guys that can tell me what it's for or that have a diagram for S10s... Thanks. Matt
Posted By: heightz
Date Posted: November 29, 2004 at 8:02 AM
I have been having the same problem on my 01 Bravada, so I checked everything that you have from reading this forum and mine is still doing it. I unconnected both front doors at the connector behind the door panel and no luck, so mine must not be the door latch like yours. I tested the wires at the bcm and cannot find any of them that are showing ground when the doors are shut. I have disconnected my hornet remote starter and still having the problem. Anyone else have any idea on what could make the domelight stay on. I have noticed that the factory security light never goes off when the ignition is not on. It usually goes off after about 15 seconds after locking the doors but it stays on now. Also the radio doesn't stay on after the ignition is turned off like it used to, until a door handle was opened. So I thought it would be a door pin or latch that was the problem but no luck. Please if anyone has any ideas let me know and I will match the original $10 for the right answer. Sorry for the novel but I don't know what else to check and I know if I take it to the dealer they are going to tell me that something was hooked up wrong on the remote starter.
Posted By: snmtazz
Date Posted: November 29, 2004 at 4:10 PM
OK I GOT IT!!!! It was the solenoid, after popping the door open, the solenoid would release the latch but it was to tight. So it was not releasing it all the way. So the sensor on the latch was not fully released because the cable on the solenois was to tight!! WOW all this and that was it!! Birdman does your answer qualify????? Matt
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