94 GMC Safari wiring help

Hello,
I need assistance with reaching the ignition, starter, and other wires that are in the ignition harness. I believe that they come out right above the steering column, but I can’t just attach the alarm wires directly because there is so much other stuff in the way. I’m sure I will have to unbolt something’s, but I would like to unbolt as few things as I can.
Thanks,
Thomas

remove the lower dash and you should see a large plug and or the wires there

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Good Luck
David
Ace Security
813-376-9778
Tampa
Donate to the 12volt

Okay I got lower dash off, and I see a grouping of wires coming out on the bottom of the steering colum. There is a large white plug with some wires coming out of it, but none that are the const 12v. I also see a few wires, a little heavier gauge, on coming out on the top. I think the ones on the top are what I need.
If you would like I can send you some images of what Im looking at. I can't post them because they are bigger that 30kbs.

P.S. if im testing to make sure I have the starter and igniton wire when will I get a volt reading on each of those wires.

Okay I got lower dash off, and I see a grouping of wires coming out on the bottom of the steering colum. There is a large white plug with some wires coming out of it, but none that are the const 12v. I also see a few wires, a little heavier gauge, on coming out on the top. I think the ones on the top are what I need.
If you would like I can send you some images of what Im looking at. I can't post them because they are bigger than 30kbs.

P.S. if im testing to make sure I have the starter and igniton wire when will I get a volt reading on each of those wires.

opps, sorry for double post

Starter = When U Turn the Key to START
Ignition  1= When U Turn the key to START

 

Constant 12 volts	RED OR RED	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 12 volts	PINK	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter	PURPLE-AUTOMATIC TRANS	YELLOW - MANUAL TRANSMISSION
Dome Light	BLACK/ ORANGE	(-) AT PIN SWITCH *
Trunk Pin Switch	SAME AS ABOVE	ALL DOORS ARE ONE CIRCUIT
Parking Lamp	BROWN	(+) AT LIGHT SWITCH
Power Lock	LIGHT BLUE	DRIVER KICK
Power Unlock	BLACK/ WHITE OR BLACK	PANEL

Positive Pulse Door Lock Diagram.
* If Equipped With Auxillary Lighting Option, Dome Light Can Be Turned Off By A Switch That Interrrupts The The Door Pin Circuit To The Courtesy Lights. If Connection Is Made At This Switch, Use ORANGE / BLACK (-). Without Auxillary Lighting Option, Wire At Door Pin Switch Will Be WHITE (-).

Accessories
Window Up	D\ D BLU P\ D BLU/WHT @ MAIN SWITCH
Window Down	R/ BRN S/ TAN
Ign Key Warn	LIGHT GREEN (-)	STEERING COLUMN HARNESS OR CHIME MOD.
Trunk Release	RED	(+) AT RELEASE SWITCH #231
OEM Horn	BLACK (-)	STEERING COLUMN HARNESS OR AT RELAY
Headlights	YELLOW (+)	HEADLIGHT SWITCH OR BEAM SELECT SW.
OEM Alarm Arm	N/A
OEM Alarm Disarm	N/A

 Reversal Rest At Ground Power Window Circuit
Positive Pulse Trunk Release

Remote Start
Tach Signal	WHITE	AT DISTRIBUTOR OR AT COIL *
Ignition #2	ORANGE	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition #3	N/A
Accessory	BROWN	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS (RADIO/WIPER)
Neutral Safety	ORANGE / BLACK (85-87)	LT BLUE (88-94) LOWER STEERING COLUMN
Brake Light	WHITE	AT SWITCH ON BRAKE PEDAL BRACKET
Reverse Light	LIGHT GREEN	AT SWITCH
Rear Window Defrost

* Throttle Body Injection Engine.

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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.

Thank you,
Let me see if I have this correctly.
The ignition key has voltage on it when the key is turned to start, and keeps the voltage until the car is turned off.

Does the accessory wire lose the voltage when the car is turned on. I found a wire that I think is the accessory wire, and it has voltage when the key is set to acc, and it when the car is on it doesn't have any voltage on it.

Does the starter wire mantain voltage when the car is on, or just when the car is starting?

Not sure what U R installing:
I posted the colors.  There R 2 Ignition wires ....  Pink #1 & Orange #2
Accessory is Brown.
Ignition will show 12 volts as the key is turned to crank and stay 12 volts as it runs
Starter will show 12 volts as the Key is turned and 0 when Key is released
Accessory will show 12 volts when key is in Run position and 0 when Key is turned to crank

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MO

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Im trying to install a black widow bw6150 alarm, keyless entry, and remote start. Right now im just trying to hook up the power, which i did, and the ignition + starter + accesory wires.
I know what color wires im looking for, but I don't know where they are located. I found the steering column harness, but don't know where the ignition harness is. Im getting about ready to pull out the instrument panel to get a better top view of the steering column.
Thanks so much for your help.
Thomas

U can get to the wires by Removing 2 phillips screws holding plastic panel under steering column.  Unplug bottom plugs on radio box on right side of steering column.  Remove 3 9/32 screws holding radio box.  Unplug top plugs & antenna from radio box.  Remove radio box......The wires R up on steering column

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MO

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I will try that tomarrow, thank you.

Help!!!
What do I do if the orange second ignition wire isn't an ignition wire? The only orange wire in the ignition harness drops out during cranking. There are 2 pink ignition wires coming out of the same place.
Do I really need a second ignition? If I do, could I hook the primary ignition to both wires on my alarm?
Thanks for all your help,
Thomas

sometimes there are two wires that are the same......some wires will drop out during starting so that all the power will be sent to the starter.....if you dont wire up all of the ign. wires, then you may not have the a/c working or someting else in the van....

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Good Luck
David
Ace Security
813-376-9778
Tampa
Donate to the 12volt

So I should hook the orange second ignition wire to the second ignition wire on my alarm even though it drops out during cranking.

Yes....... as long as U know that is the correct wire, it won't affect the vehicle of that year

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MO

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Thanks for all your help so far, but I have another question.
The driver kick panel. Is this the fuse block down by the emergency brake foot pedal?
I'm trying to access the door lock, unlock, and trigger wires. I pulled out one of the lock switches and found 3 wires. 2 of them are for locking and unlocking, but the 3rd is constant 12v. Could this the trigger wire, or could it be just a 12v constant for the switch?

You can access them in the Door Jam Boot or switch.  Or U can also go over to Passenger side, between Heater & Kick Panel and access the Factory Relays that R way up in the dash

Power Lock	LIGHT BLUE	DRIVER KICK
Power Unlock	BLACK/ WHITE OR BLACK	PANEL

Positive Pulse Door Lock Diagram.

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MO

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if I tap in at the door jam boot, would that cause my keyless entry system to unlock just that door, or should it be able to unlock both?

Or would I have to tap into both door jam boots, and then combine the wires with my keyless entry system?