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Topic: door trigger problem with viper 791xv

Posted By: accordcoupe94
Subject: door trigger problem with viper 791xv
Date Posted: October 23, 2004 at 4:45 PM

hey guys, i posted about this problem before but i never got a response. it seems i have a problem with my dome light, which also affects how the alarm triggers if a door is opened. basically, if i open my door, nothing happens, my alarm does not catch it. there is something wrong with me dome light, the light does not come on when i open the doors, however, it does come on if i manually switch it to its on position. is there another wire i can tap for the door trigger?i currently have it tapped on the back/white wire on gray connector to the right of the steering column. maybe any help on trying to fix the domelight might be helpfull as well.



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Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: October 23, 2004 at 5:16 PM
Once again . . .

1. Have you removed the door pins from each of the doors and varified that they are indeed sound, and free of any corrosion??

This is a common problem with those model Accords. If it is the L shaped push types, this is 100% the problem. If the door pin is housed within a rubber pleated boot, then it is the wire connector in the back which is corroded / loose.


2. Did you diode isolate the door pins? If so, are the diodes orientated in the correct manner???


3. Are you sure you have the correct wire from the harness?? How did you test that this is indeed the correct wire??? Did it show a (+) or (-) when you depressed the switches???


4. Are you sure the zone is not simply bypassed through the alarm system???


Regards

EVIL Teken . . .    




Posted By: accordcoupe94
Date Posted: October 23, 2004 at 5:36 PM
yes, its a 1994 honda accord ex coupe. i have lights on the doors as well, and they come on an off depending if the door is open or closed, and they work fine, so i assumed that the door switches are fine, just that the dome light does not work in combination with the door swirthes.




Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: October 23, 2004 at 5:43 PM
You are assuming wrong.




Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: October 23, 2004 at 7:17 PM
its not ur electrical system. check the wire youre tappin at. youre prolly checkin the wrong wire, dude

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Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 23, 2004 at 11:07 PM
and they come on an off depending if the door is open or closed, and they work fine, so i assumed that the door switches are fine, just that the dome light does not work in combination with the door swirthes.
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This is highly contradictory. Either the dome light works off the door switches, or it dosen't. You can't have both, I'm afraid.

Check your doorpins..... intermittant door switches are a very common problem with older Mazdas and Hondas. They are either loose or corroded.... easy fix/change. Usually just one screw.

Gus


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Posted By: accordcoupe94
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 8:33 AM
ok. let me explain this again. i had a crimestopper alarm system in my car before but i took it out and installed the viper, so i am certain i have all of the corect wires tapped since they were the same ones used from the old alarm. the door switches are functioning correctly. i know this because the LIGHTS ON THE DOOR come on and off when i press them or open and close the door. it is just the dome light that does not react to the door switches. i do not know why. there is also picture on my speedometer cluster that also shows which door is open when i open one. its a coupe so it only shows left or right door opened. come to think of it, i did have my speedometer changed and i am not sure if it was from a coupe or sedan, but i doubt that would affect this problem. gauge cluster works perfectly.




Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 3:47 PM
I dont care if the light comes on in the door, you do realize that it is a seperate circuit right?

Also, you have not even taken the time to verify any of these assumptions with your DMM. Imperical evdience and facts are what technicians follow, not what I think is true.

You can observe all you want, but at the end of the day you really do need to confirm your visual observations with a meter.

I am telling you this from 20+ years of experience, matters not what you see, or hear, it only matters what the meter says.

Even then, the informations takes one good working brain to determine what to do with the captured data.

If you elect to not follow up with electrical measurments, to verify your finding, then it matters not what I tell you, you are simply ignoring people who have experience, and those who do, will ultimately tell you the same thing over and over.

Doesnt mean the answer will change, but it does mean you have factual data to collaborate your visual observations, which then, will lead you down another path, but only after you have confirmed the basics.

Sorry, but you are not even doing the basics, which is key to trouble shooting.

Regards

EVIL Teken . . .




Posted By: accordcoupe94
Date Posted: October 26, 2004 at 11:25 PM
ok. like i said im right. think about it this way mr. smart a$$ tekken. If the door switch is broken, like you said, how the hell can it control the door lights? like i said.. switch is fine, just that dome light is not working with it. im looking for possible explanations, not the same answer again and again from someone who obviously does not have any common sense since you cannot figure out that the switch is good because it CAN control the door lights and "door open" notification on my dash. IF the switch was bad, it would not sense any of those things. i know its on a different circuit, but so what? its still being controlled by the same switch. whoop de do mr. cant connect the dots, how much easier can i explain this?




Posted By: accordcoupe94
Date Posted: October 26, 2004 at 11:27 PM
im sorry if i sounded a little ignorant in the previous post, ok maybe very ignorant, but come on.. have some common sense. ITS NOT THE SWITCH. any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.




Posted By: tbirdman74
Date Posted: October 27, 2004 at 2:36 AM
Have you ever looked at a newer GM doorpin switch?  There are three wires coming out of it.  One goes to ground, one to the dome lights, and another to the blinky lights on the dash to tell you witch door is open.  Just because there is only one switch, doesn't mean that it is still functioning at 100%.  There is a possibility that your wiring in the car has become faulty, broken wire or what not.  Theres the chance that with the inst. cluster replaced with one not quite right, it is causing the problem.  You should first unhook your door trigger wiring from the alarm going to the car.  All of it.  no diodes, no nothing, back to stock.  If dome light functions properly, problem is in alarm wiring.  if not, then you know that it is in the car.  Take clear methodical steps when trying to troubleshoot these problems, and youll find that most of the time the answer will come to you before you find it.  And as far as what Teken was trying to get across to you, near as I can tell, is that you are asking everyone to make assumptions about why your dome light doesn't work right, without feeding them any raw data about what it is and isn't doing, in an electrical sense.  People like us need concrete data to form a path to follow to cure a problem.  This part works, and that part doesn't, does us no good at all.  So check out what I suggested earlier, and then give us back those results, and then we can help you much mo' betta'  Let there be peace in the valley...

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If it don't fit, Force it.
If it breaks, You needed a new one anyway!




Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: October 27, 2004 at 8:54 AM
Its been over two weeks since this member has posted this problem. And, at each point, professional advice has been stated, and given as to where to start.

Has the member followed this advice???

No . . . Why??? As I see it, its not that important to him to find out why, but simply guess. . .

Its too hard to bend over and break out a DMM and make some basic measurements???

Too hard to take a phillips screw driver, and remove one little door pin???

Perhaps it is . . . Life is pretty simple when help is around. You are basicly making your own life harder, because you have elected to be ignorant of the facts as to what people do in your situation.

tbirdman74, Don't waste your breath, he still wont do it, if he does its only because its the ONLY common sense thing to do.


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Knowledge is power. But only if you apply that knowledge in a positive way, which promotes positive results in others.

EVIL Teken . . .




Posted By: tbirdman74
Date Posted: October 27, 2004 at 9:09 AM
Well you can lead a horse to water, but its kinda tough to drown them in it!!..

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If it don't fit, Force it.
If it breaks, You needed a new one anyway!




Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: October 27, 2004 at 9:15 AM
LMAO . . . On that note, I will leave this thread. Nothing productive will come out of it.

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Knowledge is power. But only if you apply that knowledge in a positive way, which promotes positive results in others.

EVIL Teken . . .




Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: October 27, 2004 at 9:37 AM
[QUOTE=Teken]LMAO . . . On that note, I will leave this thread. Nothing productive will come out of it.[/QUOTE

Something has..........
Hey it works!!!!]

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Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: October 27, 2004 at 9:41 AM
mo12v] wrote:

[QUOTE=Teken]LMAO . . . On that note, I will leave this thread. Nothing productive will come out of it.[/QUOTE

[QUOTE=mo12v]something has..........
Hey it works!!!!



Nope try again !! posted_image

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Knowledge is power. But only if you apply that knowledge in a positive way, which promotes positive results in others.

EVIL Teken . . .




Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 27, 2004 at 10:02 PM
Well Accordguy, try this. Using a DMM (Digital Multimeter) you may have to relocate the door trigger wire to the other side of the circuit. What does this mean for you? The door lights and cluster icon are on another side of the door trigger circuit, so, in order for the alarm to trigger without fixing a possible vehicle problem, you must find the wire that triggers the actual lights in the door and cluster.

Is there anything else that is possibly not working correctly in the car? That may have stopped working around the same time as the overhead dome light? May want to pop the hood and check the fuse marked "room" in the fusebox next to the battery (7.5A). It also controls the clock, and radio memory.

You may also want to consider double checking those doorpins. Yeah yeah, you may think they are working correctly. However, if they are using 2 separate wires right at the switch (one for each circuit) and one of the circuits has failed... well, you are seeing the results.

You must keep in mind that all of the responses you have recieved thus far are from seasoned veterans in this field (10+ years for myself) who have encountered problems such as this before. We are speaking from experience. We have seen problems like this before, and believe it or not, we know what we are talking about.

Have a Day!

Gus


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Posted By: accordcoupe94
Date Posted: October 28, 2004 at 1:50 AM
man.. you guys have no other answer than the door switch. i mean its a good guess and i understand why you would think that but like i said, its fine. i looked at the switch and its fine.i took off the headliner and ran my own damn wires to prove this. it not the damn door switch. will you guys give up on that and concentrate on something else? i mean i uderstand that most of you guys are seasoned veterans, but i know 97% of you have worked on hondas and i cannot believe that none of you can give me a better answer than this. tekken is the most ignorant of all. i mean he was proven wrong by me at least 5 times and he still inststs its the door switch, tekken, if you cant figure out soemthing its ok. i mean its not like youre god. your just a moron and i understand that. if you have no other ideas, just state it and move on. commenting on not bothering to post any more ideas to hide that you actually have no others is just a sad way to admit youre a looser. anyways, i still need help to figure out this problem. and if it wasnt obvious enough, i have used a DMM to check for voltage change for the BLACK/ WHITE WIRE TO THE RIGHT OF THE COLUMN. no change was reported. and like i said.. i think its the changed cluster that is causing the problem.. i believe its from a sedan. one more thing, tekken, please dont post any more posts on my topics. i do not need an amateurs help. and for the rest, thank you for your help.




Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 28, 2004 at 10:28 AM
Okay, we have ruled out the door switch.... thank-you. This is how troubleshooting works... divide and conquer. Door switch to cluster is obviously working, you have an icon. Perhaps the harness to the overhead light has an issue. Have you pulled the cluster? If the plugs between the OEM cluster and the new cluster you have in there were different, and they had to splice new connectors on, one or two wires may have gotten missed.

Looks like you may have to break down and spend some money on a manual for the car, or at least try to get the schematic for the interior lighing portion of the car from someone. This is a vehicle wiring issue. Could be something fairly simple ranging from a mis-spliced harness to a connector not fully seated in the back of the fuse box. We could all make assumptions on what the problem is, but without actually seeing what has been changed on the car, we can only check what we have seen in the past as an issue on these cars.

Gus


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Posted By: accordcoupe94
Date Posted: October 28, 2004 at 10:58 AM
i did the cluster install myself as well and the new cluster plugged right in. no modifications were necessary. nothing else in the car was done recently that should affect the cars dome light wiring. it was working up until about a month ago (i installed the alarm 2 weeks ago). i still dont understand what the "door trigger" wire senses for (i think its somewhat dumb if that just checks for a domelight). can i use another wire on the car for this "door trigger" wire?




Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 28, 2004 at 11:13 AM
The door trigger wire does just that.... senses the door trigger. On Hondas, the door circuit before the light goes to ground (chassis) at the door switch itself. You can find the wires coming from the switch itself along the door sils. This will give you a definate trigger to ground. For the color, pull the switch and check the wire color on the back of it.

Gus


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Posted By: riceman
Date Posted: October 28, 2004 at 1:17 PM
why r u getting so frustrated you have made this into a bigger problem then it is if you say the switch is not working and you checked with the DMM then fine. then its something else if your such a season veteran then rewire the dome light and make it work or do you need me to tell you how to make a domelight relay? if your saying the current from the door trigger is not strong enough then make a relay to ground to trigger the alarm. I mean wats the big deal it just  a 94 accord so wat u are telling me is that your such a badass that cant seem to fix a simple issue .where all here for the same reason, for help troubleshooting. i didnt apperciate the way you bashed on other members of this fourum when all where doing is here to help each other and as for you i will never post on any of your topics again . have a nice day




Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 28, 2004 at 3:36 PM
Heh... yeah Bobk, that's what I'm thinkin too. Riceman.... two words. Capitalization and punctuation. Gawd, the education system is screwed if apparent HS grads can't string together a written paragraph that is actually readable..... farkin' MSN generation.

Gus


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Posted By: accordcoupe94
Date Posted: November 02, 2004 at 5:57 PM
ok. i found the problem. it has to do with the cluster. i tried pluging the old cluster back in and dome lights were fine. i think i have a cluster from a sedan and not from a coupe, so it somehow breaks a connection to the domelight, becasue the cluster believes i should have 4 doors i think. just wanted to prove that tekken, bobk, and riceman are all idiots and cant figure out something simple. like i said, dont bother to post and make yourself look any more stupid. thanks to gus1 for understanding and actually having some good suggestions, unlike the other 3 morons.




Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: November 02, 2004 at 11:35 PM
Cool. Glad you narrowed it down. Next step, if you're feeling adventurous (sp?) would be to narrow down the cluster difference, and perhaps modify the new cluster to trick it into thinking the car only has 2 doors. This could be fun, or it may be quite simple (perhaps a jumper or solder pad)

My main experience is with VW, and I know you can recode pretty much anything you want in the instrument cluster with the scan tool. IE: Tired of annoying seatbelt chimes and icons??? Turn 'em off! Same goes for ignition controlled locking, confirmation honks, etc. etc. As far as the Hondas and modding the electrical infrastructure easily, I'm out of the loop. There may be a decent Honda forum that is more hands on, fix/mod the car stuff out there somewhere. Someone on there may be able to point you in the right direction on the underlying difference between the two clusters.

Gus


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Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: November 03, 2004 at 9:36 AM
hey gus1, play nice.....
were installers here, not grammar practicians.

you, too, accordcoupe94.... play nice.
may be they tell you the wrong idea, but its their way of learning (somewhat....)


as i remember, 94-97 accord 4drs has on-dash car-drs indicator and there are 4 indicators for 4drs. if you use this cluster on a coupe, youre looking at trouble.




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Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: November 03, 2004 at 3:48 PM
I think everyone should really take a few moments and read what this imbecil has written here prior, and how his lack of common sense and thought process really works.

accordcoupe94 You came on this forum seeking assistance to a problem which you created yourself, but was too lazy & arrogant to resolve.

So people such as myself suggested a course of action which all technicians follow. To make basic eletrical measurments with a DMM, to validate, or disprove the operation of a circuit, at each turn you ignored the suggestions and assistance you were given because you were not skilled enough, and too lazy to do so.

Did you try to trouble shoot as suggested??? No . . . Why??? Because you truly feel you are above making mistakes, and also too incompetant to check. . . Here are your own words.


accordcoupe94 wrote:

come to think of it, i did have my speedometer changed and i am not sure if it was from a coupe or sedan, but i doubt that would affect this problem. gauge cluster works perfectly



Doubt that would affect your problem??? Assumption on your part??? Which makes you ASS U ME !!! Yes . . . Because you were too lazy, and didnt want to bother to do some basic research on whether the cluster would affect your vehicle. This is why you are where you are today. Yet you blame others for your own short comings in common sense???



accordcoupe94 wrote:

just wanted to prove that tekken, bobk, and riceman are all idiots and cant figure out something simple


The only thing you have proved to people around the world, is your lack of trouble shooting skills & common sense. Since this problem was so simple, it only took you 3 weeks to find it???

Right . . . This is you ---> posted_image for being such a clown, and not being able to resolve this problem within a day, which most people would have, who have one good working brain.

Are you lacking some grey matter in that mellon???



accordcoupe94 wrote:

like i said, dont bother to post and make yourself look any more stupid.


accordcoupe94 wrote:

i know its on a different circuit, but so what? its still being controlled by the same switch. whoop de do mr. cant connect the dots, how much easier can i explain this?


Your couldnt connect one dot, which was the cluster, perhaps someone needed to explain that to you too??


Once again, the only person who looks stupid is you !!
LMFAO . . . You know, part time I help many mentally challenged and down syndrome kids.

My mandate is to browden and expand their thinking skills to solve problems in life, so as in the end they will be able to function better in our society.

There is a young boy who's is severly challenged mentally, and I know if I gave him a simple command to do a task he would do so.

If I showed him how to remove a skrew from a fixed location such as a door latch, he would be able to repeat the very same task over and over without any problems.

Now how does this relate to you??? It appears you need someone like myself to physically come down and show you how to do a task, such as my little friend Josh.

The only differnce is that Josh's thinking process is quite abit higher than yours. How so you ask???

Well, because Josh would have simply followed the very fist thing I asked him to do, and to see whether there was a change in state, in the problem at hand.

You, on the other hand lacked the common sense to actually check anything and sat there like a little school girl crying because you, yourself were not able to fix the problem, you created !!!!

The title for king aszz idiot, is bestowed upon you !!!

Please feel free, to show us your lack of knowledge again...

Just remember, you are the very first one to call someone out with names, and not any other member. Because you are unable to communicate on a mature and professional manner, I guess I will have to lower myself for the time being to reply to you.

I have all the time in the world to reply to your silly, and incompetant replies.






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Knowledge is power. But only if you apply that knowledge in a positive way, which promotes positive results in others.

EVIL Teken . . .




Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: November 03, 2004 at 6:34 PM
SUMMARY INCOMPETANCE of accordcoupe94:


1. Comes on to the 12 volt forum seeking help and assistance to a problem HE CREATED in the first place. Didnt bother to do ANY research to see if there was any compatibility issues.

There was !!!

2. Explained to him how to start the trouble shooting steps, to varify a go, or no go circuit(s). Four weeks later and the arrogant fool still cant bend over to use a DMM to eliminate potential faults.

Perhaps he lacks comprehension or understanding in how to use such a simple device???

Perhaps he didnt know how to use a phillips screw driver, or was too lazy to unscrew one single screw from the mounting point???

Your guess is as good as mine, I would opt for the former.

3. But please wait . . . We as a helpful membership are suppose to guess what he has, or hasnt done !!! posted_image

A little hard to do since he is lacking in communication skills, and refuses to help himself in doing the most elementry task to verify a circuit.

Time and time again. Asked to do a task, and the only reply is *The light comes on*

Perhaps it is the light bulb in your head that is not on / working properly???

4. He comes back with no more information, but does have some childish remarks which really dont seem to be justified.

But hey, look who we are dealing with. A person who more than likely doesnt have two brain cells to rub to make friction to ignite a thought . . .

At the end of the day these are my personal thoughts:

- I am sorry I even tried to help you, even though it appeared that you were clueless.

- I am sorry that you couldnt figure out that you created your own problem, and took 4 weeks to discover your own incompetance.

- I am sorry that all the valuable members on this forum had to endure your lack of comprehension in this matter

- Over all, I am sorry that my friend Josh couldnt be there to guide you in this easy task.

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Knowledge is power. But only if you apply that knowledge in a positive way, which promotes positive results in others.

EVIL Teken . . .




Posted By: accordcoupe94
Date Posted: November 04, 2004 at 8:57 PM
umm.. ok tekken. like i said. if it wassnt obvious enough, i did use a dimm if you bothered to read my posts. i am in college and home is about 5 hours away. that is where my original cluster was. that was why it took me so long to figure it out. im sorry, but you have not offered any good advice. i asked that perhaps i could tap another wire.. did you know of another? nope. i said the switch was fine and all you could think of was "its the switch". wrong again? yup. all of your mediocre attemps to help were useless. i changed the gauge cluster.. so what? when i mentioned it, did you suggest perhaps it is becasue it could be from a sedan? nope. you just said "its the switch" and time and time again, i told you its not the switch... and how else could i have known that unless i checked the damn thing already. if it is too hard to comprehend that "its not the switch" and help others by moving on to something else.. then im sorry, but you do look stupid for doing that. and bobk jumps on the boat of "its the switch" becasue he cant figure it out either. but its ok. keep up the near 1500 posts. its ok if you have no life and electronics is the only thing you have, even if you are not that good at it. its sad that you actually have 1500 posts where you most likely just annoyed people such as myself and did not offer any usefull information. well.. i must go back to studying , yes.. i have other things to do than just worry about a door trigger on my alarm, and earn my college degree, something someone of your low caliber must not have, or could ever obtain.




Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: November 04, 2004 at 9:12 PM
accordcoupe94 wrote:

its sad that you actually have 1500 posts where you most likely just annoyed people such as myself and did not offer any usefull information. well.. i must go back to studying , yes.. i have other things to do than just worry about a door trigger on my alarm, and earn my college degree, something someone of your low caliber must not have, or could ever obtain.


-hey man, youre the first around here to create some complication.
-dont even try to mention about educations. there are many ppl on this forum have earn EE or Electrical tech degrees and still have the modest minds, not like urs.
-I am also a 3rd yr Egr student, Civil that is. so dont even try to mention "low caliber" or "obtaining a degree", cause you dont know who you are talkin to.

-again, play nice. since youre in college now, act like one.

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"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).




Posted By: gtchida
Date Posted: November 05, 2004 at 11:07 AM

I'm with you Teken...hey coupe, try to show A LOT more respect for the knowledge and expertise that can be found in this forum.

Gary





Posted By: SmokeyJMB
Date Posted: November 05, 2004 at 1:01 PM
diode isolate you door triggers make sure you are using the correct wires on on the alarm (+ or -) im not sure which on it is but that should fix the problem. But also make sure you diodes are not in backwords.

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Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: November 05, 2004 at 7:26 PM
accordcoupe94 wrote:

umm.. ok tekken.


You will note at each point in time I have addressed you with your correct call sign, along with the correct spelling. Either your reading skills are still at a 3rd grade level, or you require a free sample of HOOKED ON PHONICS If you require a free demo copy I can borrow one from Josh.

For the record the program does work. My name is spelt with one (1) K, as a person not the video game. Not two, you illiterate imbecil.



accordcoupe94 wrote:

like i said. if it wassnt obvious enough, i did use a dimm if you bothered to read my posts.


Once again, IT IS OBVIOUS, that you need to repeat grades 2-6 for grammar, punctuations, and the use of capitalization in your written text.

At each point in time, where I must read your replies it is like reading from a Author who was on acid. Can you not simply string along a simple sentence structure???

The measuring tool which you referred to as a DIMM, is actually a DMM. A DIMM would for most computer literate people, would refer to a Dual Inline Memory Module.

A DMM, is a Digital Multi-Meter which is used to measure and capture electrical potential / differences.

Perhaps this is one reason you were not able to obtain the correct information with a computer memory card in your feeble hands???

Please note that I can quote you all day long as to what you did, and didnt do.

Would you like me to quote you again??? Why not . . .

accordcoupe94 wrote:

yes, its a 1994 honda accord ex coupe. i have lights on the doors as well, and they come on an off depending if the door is open or closed, and they work fine, so i assumed that the door switches are fine, just that the dome light does not work in combination with the door swirthes


Once again, you assumed on two things !!! No where does it state you did make use of a DMM to verify the circuit(s) or anything for that matter.

When you finally did, its only because there was no other logical course of action.

Once again, you clearly stated to everyone and yourself that *your vehicle is a Coupe*, and not a Sedan.

It only took you four (4) weeks to figure out the difference??? So by default your own incompetance was to blame, everyone around the world is suppose to know that you installed the wrong cluster into the vehicle???

People around the world are suppose to know that you are giving them all the relevent information to assist you in your endeavor. Even though you are not helping yourself to make any measurments with the aid of a DMM and consistently, you have stated you ASSUMED it was not related.

Please, stop displaying your low IQ for us.


accordcoupe94 wrote:

i am in college and home is about 5 hours away.


Based on your past replies, and comprehension level. I would have to gather your GPA is below 1.0, meaning you are a C & D grade student just skimming by.

Please, for the sake of others who are in the technical field. Don't get involved with anything which relates to 12 volt electronics, tools, and the automotive industry in general.

Your current level of understanding, and how to solve elementry problems is extremely poor !!


accordcoupe94 wrote:

that was why it took me so long to figure it out.


So let me break this down in simple terms for all of us, especially for you.

Because you live XXX hours away, you, yourself who has first hand knowledge of the problem(s), changes in the vehicle wiring, additions, and the physical make up of the current standing of the vehicle.

It took you over four (4) weeks to finaly realize that you created the very problem you are having today.

Yet you expect people who are 99999999999 miles away to help your pathetic aszz to a problem, which by the way, you asked for !!! To help you solve a problem, while the whole time you ignored the suggestions of professionals who asked you to eliminate one potential area, one by one so as it would lead you down a path which would isolate the area???

Once again your line of thought, and reasoning is below forth grade levels. But ultimately, reflects on the gene pool you came from.

Stem cell research cannot cure, inbreeding.



accordcoupe94 wrote:

i changed the gauge cluster.. so what?


So what??? LMFAO !!! At this point, I must reiterate that problem solving, and the apparent lack of common sense housed within your mellon is most definately lacking and none existent.



accordcoupe94 wrote:

keep up the near 1500 posts.


That I wasted valuable time, and resources to someone like yourself. In hine sight, I will have to realy think about my policy about helping everyone, even those who clearly lack the mental capacity to understand simple directions.   





accordcoupe94 wrote:

well.. i must go back to studying , yes.. i have other things to do than just worry about a door trigger on my alarm, and earn my college degree, something someone of your low caliber must not have, or could ever obtain.


Based on your current level of thinking process, and the ability to learn. I find it hard to believe you will graduate in the allotted time frame.

Not everyone can finish colledge in time, but come on. Do you really think its going to take 15 years to finish basket weaving???

Once again, stay away from anything which requires problem solving.

Oh . . . That would more than likely encompass every aspect in your life.posted_image




The End . . .


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Knowledge is power. But only if you apply that knowledge in a positive way, which promotes positive results in others.

EVIL Teken . . .




Posted By: accordcoupe94
Date Posted: November 07, 2004 at 5:03 PM

teken (one "k"), look at your posts. everytime you reply, theres a smile on my face. its true i dont type with proper punctuation, but its a forum, not a term paper. i type as if i were speaking to you. look at your posts, it covers almost half of the page. i think im doing this more for the people reading than myself now. controversy is always more intresting to read than normal topics like "help, i have a problem." i will admit that i honestly did not think the cluster had anything to do with the dome light, as it pluged directly into the factory wiring harness on my car without any modifications. i really do not have any way to confirm that the donor cluster belonged to a sedan. with that said, i doubt you could tell the difference between the clusters yourself. it could even be that i have a faulty cluster and that it has nothing to do with being a coupe or sedan. i am in college. im not trying to put down people who have not gone, i am sure that most of the people here, besides teken, are very well educated. the very fact that i am in college should prove my abilities to "problem solve." and about the comment on installing the alarm in 4 hours.. im not trying to brag or put anyone else down. im just trying to show first timers that it can be done, because i did it. look teken, you sad you would not post on any of my threads but you did. you say you are a problem solver but you post useless things. im sorry if my life has more meaning than to just solve a minor problem with my alarm. look at the lengths you have already tried to put me down, but no one cares. its all for the entertainment of others. just calm down and get a girlfriend or something. stop with the 1500 posts, it all just makes you look pathetic.

 BTW.... i think i managed to start one of  the longest threads on this site, if not the longest.





Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: November 07, 2004 at 5:53 PM
accordcoupe94 wrote:

teken (one "k"),


Once again, you need to redo grades 2-6. Its a capital K.


accordcoupe94 wrote:

everytime you reply, theres a smile on my face.


Would that be the exact same stupid smile I see on those students who are in the 101 education program?? If it is, then I know this smile. It almost resembles the smile from a dumb blonde, unimpressive actualy.



accordcoupe94 wrote:

i type as if i were speaking to you.


So basicly what you are saying is. That you come across as clueless in real life, as you do on the Internet??

I realy shudder to think how those people who are forced to listen to your uninformed drival, and arrogant tone must feel. Simply reading your writing here is hard enough to endure.


accordcoupe94 wrote:

i will admit that i honestly did not think the cluster had anything to do with the dome light,


That's right . . . A person actually has to *think* to process information, and while doing so. A person with even the smallest amount of common sense would do some research to confirm whether a component is compatible.

But like you said . . . You dont think . . . Therefor, it wasnt really much of a surprise !!


accordcoupe94 wrote:

im not trying to put down people who have not gone, i am sure that most of the people here, besides teken, are very well educated.


LMFAO . . . You're not trying to put down people, yet in the same breath & key stroke you are doing so here??

You little fool, please dont compare me to yourself. I know alot of people who have not graduated from any formal college, or institution.

The majority of them have done very well for themselves. The difference between them, is the ability to Stop, Look, and Listen.

Are you even aware, what that phrase means???


accordcoupe94 wrote:

the very fact that i am in college should prove my abilities to "problem solve."


OMG . . . You assert that because you are attending a school in any form. That this, in itself, proves that you can solve problems???

That is apparently not true, isnt it ??? Going to school and retaining knowledge is one thing. Applying that knowledge in a practical manner is all together different.

You have proven during the course of this thread, you lack the ability to trouble shoot, and eliminate the obvious things.

I have many friends who have recieved a college tuition based on their athletic abilities. Great guys, but lets be honest, they are as dumb as a post.

Yet they too go to school. Does this by default say they are able to trouble shoot, as you assert???

LOL, that is a rhetorical question, please dont reply.



accordcoupe94 wrote:

and about the comment on installing the alarm in 4 hours.. im not trying to brag or put anyone else down. im just trying to show first timers that it can be done, because i did it.


LMFAO . . . It keeps getting better !!! No, when you're not bragging, in your spare time you come on forums to insult others???

I can assure everyone here that if any of us came down to see your so called installation on this vehicle.

We would all fall down laughing !!!! The level of experience in anything you do, must truly be sub par to those who have some common sense.

I tell you what . . . Lets just say you apologise to everyone on this forum. Than this can be put to bed, but if you insist upon coming on to this forum and bashing me, and others.

Well, Corky, 2005 is going to be really fun, for all of us !!!
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Knowledge is power. But only if you apply that knowledge in a positive way, which promotes positive results in others.

EVIL Teken . . .




Posted By: hagmanti
Date Posted: November 07, 2004 at 7:28 PM
Okay, folks, time to calm down.

Teken-- anyone who's been on this forum more than a week knows what's going on here. You're making yourself look worse by descending toward this person's level (although since you have tons of credit built up, you can get away w/ this for quite awhile).

accordcoupe94-- I have 3 degrees and am in graduate school. This doesn't mean a thing about how well I fix cars. Perhaps (think of this as being something like homework) you can step back and figure out how silly you are making yourself look.

Both of y'all-- Or keep on keepin' on. At least it's amusing....

Me




Posted By: accordcoupe94
Date Posted: November 07, 2004 at 7:42 PM

teken is a moron.. your posts prove it. enough said.





Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: November 07, 2004 at 8:30 PM
accordcoupe94 wrote:

teken is a moron.. your posts prove it. enough said.




LOL, there's a tear shedding down my face now. posted_image

ME, point taken . . .

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Knowledge is power. But only if you apply that knowledge in a positive way, which promotes positive results in others.

EVIL Teken . . .




Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: November 07, 2004 at 8:42 PM

KICK ASSS...............(keep It Cool KIDS After Saying Something STUPID)

It's NOT worth it......



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Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.





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