98 Toyota Paseo factory immobilizer

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Topic: 98 Toyota Paseo factory immobilizer

Posted By: admtl
Subject: 98 Toyota Paseo factory immobilizer
Date Posted: November 12, 2004 at 10:33 PM

Hi!
I have a 98 Paseo, manual transmission, and I'm trying to install a Predator 4001 remote engine starter system. Since I don't have the wiring diagram of the car, I have encountered a few problems and I would really appreciate any information that would help:

1. I'm not able to locate the factory immobilizer's disarm wire. Browsing the forum, I saw that for the 97 version this wire is a WHITE/ Blue (-) wire at the Anti-Theft Module behind the radio. I've searched for this module and I've found a black one in that location that carries the inscription "Relays Assy / Running Lights". Is this the one, 'cause it seems that it's the only module in that area ? If so, for the 98 Paseo, there is no WHITE/ Blue wire for Factory Disarm, and no WHITE/ Green wire that would arm the immobilizer. However, I saw 2 WHITE/ Black wires, one next to the other, but... Could anyone tell me which wire to use, please ?
Predator provides a disarm (-) output wire that gives a 0.75 second ground output and an arm (-) output wire that can be programmed to give a single 2 second (-) output pulse or 2 pulses. Would this normally suffice ?

2. The Predator 4001 provides a wire (PINK) for the ignition. The 98 Paseo has 2 ignition wires: ignition 1 (BLACK / YELLOW) and ignition 2 (BLACK/ Red). I measured the tension on ingnition 2 with the key out of the contact, and I've got a +12V (?!).
The manual for Predator says, and I quote:
"Ignition
Most vehicles have only one ignition wire. If an additional wire is required to remote start the vehicle, a 30/40 amp relay must be added. Do not use the PINK wire to power more than one ignition wire.
- use a voltmeter to locate the wire(s) that show +12 volts while the ignition key is in the "ON", "CRANK" and "RUN" positions and 0 volts when the ignition key is in the "OFF" position.
- Connect the PINK wire to the vehicle ignition wire."
Now, how should I use the 30/40 amp relay for the second ignition wire, since this ignition wire already shows +12 volts when the ignition key is out ? Or this wire actually doesn't need to be tapped in, in order to remote start the car ?

3. Regarding the tach wire, I just want to be sure I got the right connector (see the other postings regarding the connector located near the driver's shock / strut tower): is it the third (BLACK/ Blue) wire from the bottom of the connector, when the connector is plugged in ?

I would like to thank everyone for their time spent to read my post and for your reply.
Winter is coming fast and I would really like to finish installing this starter! ;-)

Dorian

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Posted By: snguyen
Date Posted: November 12, 2004 at 10:37 PM

Item	Wire Color	Polarity	Wire Location
12V	BLACK/ red	+	ignition harness
STARTER	black	+	ignition harness
IGNITION	blue/red	+	ignition harness
ACCESSORY	BLACK / YELLOW	+	ignition harness
SECOND ACCESSORY	BLACK/ white	+	ignition harness
TACHOMETER	BLACK/ blue		ignitor *1
POWER LOCK	GREEN / WHITE	-	passengers kick
POWER UNLOCK	RED / white	-	passengers kick
PARKING LIGHTS +	green		drivers kick panel
PARKING LIGHTS -	lt. green		steering column
DOOR TRIGGER	RED / yellow	-	2 pin plug in fusebox
HEADLIGHTS	RED / blue	-	steering column *2
WIPERS
LF WINDOW UP/DN	red - green	A	driver door switch
RF WINDOW UP/DN	blu/red - blu/yel	A	in drivers door or DKP
LR WINDOW UP/DN
RR WINDOW UP/DN
TRUNK/HATCH PIN	RED / yel	-	anti-theft module *3
HOOD PIN	lt. GREEN/ black	-	anti-theft module *3
TRUNK/HATCH RELEASE
FACTORY ALARM ARM	arms with lock
FACTORY ALARM DISARM	disarms with unlock
HORN TRIGGER	GREEN/ YELLOW	-	steering column *2
BRAKE WIRE	GREEN / WHITE	-	steering column *2
LOCK MOTOR	none	non	none
UNLOCK MOTOR	none	non	none
DISARM DEFEAT	none	non	none
DISARM NO UNLOCK	none	non	none
DOME SUPERVISION	none	non	none
SPEED SENSE	none	non	none
SUN ROOF OPEN/CLOSE	none	non	none
SUN ROOF LIMIT	none	non	none
LF SPEAKER	none	non	none
RF SPEAKER	none	non	none
LR SPEAKER	none	non	none
RR SPEAKER	none	non	none
RADIO 12V	none	non	none
RADIO GROUND	none	non	none
RADIO SWITCH	none	non	none
RADIO ILLUMINATE	none	non	none
POWER ANTENNA	none	non	none

Notes:	1 The ignitor is located in the left rear of the engine compartment. 2 Also found at the anti-theft module. *3 The anti-theft module is located in the drivers kick panel to the left of the fuse box.

Posted By: snguyen
Date Posted: November 12, 2004 at 10:39 PM

Toyota

Paseo

1996-1998

Remote Starter Wiring Colors and Notes
Function	Vehicle Color	Location
Start:	BLACK	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition #1:	BLACK/ WHITE	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition #2:	BLUE/RED	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition #3:	N/A
Accessory:	BLACK / YELLOW	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Brake Light:	GREEN / WHITE (+)	AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
Tach Signal:	BLACK/ BLUE	AT IGNITER ON DR. STRUT TOWER
Parking Lights:	GREEN (+)	# PIN CONNECTOR AT FUSE BLOCK *
Headlights:	RED / BLUE (-)	AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH **
OEM Alarm Disarm:	WHITE/ BLUE (-)	4 PIN CONNECTOR IN DR. KICK PANEL
OEM Alarm Arm:	WHITE/ GREEN (-)	# PIN CONNECTOR IN DR. KICK PANEL
Diesel Glow Plug:
Clutch Bypass Wire:
Notes:

Toyota

Paseo

1996-1998

Alarm and Keyless Entry Wiring Colors and Notes
Function	Vehicle Color	Location
Constant +12 Volts:	WHT/GRN & BLK/RED	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter Kill:	BLACK	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition +12 Volts:	BLACK/ WHITE	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome Lights/Superv:	RED / YELLOW (-)	2 PIN CONNECTOR AT FUSE BLOCK *
OEM Horn:	GREEN/ YELLOW (-)	STEERING COLUMN HARNESS
Power Lock:	RED / YELLOW	# PIN CONN. IN DRIVER'S KICK **
Power Unlock:	GREEN/ YELLOW	# PIN CONN. IN DRIVER'S KICK **
Trunk Release:	N/A
Alarm Input Wire:	RED / YELLOW (-)	2 PIN CONNECTOR AT FUSE BLOCK *
Notes:	* Fuse Block Located In Driver Kick Panel. ** Child Safety Locks: PINK/BLUE (-) In Same Conn. As Door Lock Wires Above. See Note

Posted By: admtl
Date Posted: November 12, 2004 at 10:59 PM

Thank you snguyen! You were really fast !!!
It seems that the colours for the wires at the ignition switch harness have changed between them from 97 to 98...
I'll also look for the arm / disarm wires at the kick panel.
Thanks man, you were great !

Posted By: nava94
Date Posted: November 12, 2004 at 11:54 PM

The arm and disarm wires for that vehicle should be at the driver kickpanel. You could also test them with you digital meter by inserting your key in the driver key cylinder when you lock or unlock you will get your reading on your meter. is your car automatic or stick? if it's stick hope your careful when you remote start it, don't leave it in gear. for your second ignition you could wire a relay and use the same output for the 1st ignition to trigger your relay for your second ignition to get energized. good luck on your install.

Posted By: admtl
Date Posted: November 13, 2004 at 12:17 AM

Hi nava94 ! Thank you.
I'll do my best not to forget to leave the stick on neutral (I'm aware that otherwise this would cause a disaster...) and I'll also hope that the brakes won't get stuck when there'll be minus 40 again... posted_image

I also hope that inserting the key in the driver's key cylinder would give me an answer, even though I've tried to lock the door with the key, leaving the window down, then opened the door from the inside switch and... started the engine. If the arm / disarm wires were connected to the door key cylinder, the engine probably should not have started. However, I'll try this too.
I would also like to thank you for the tip regarding the relay.

Dorian