remote starter on manual, 94 toyota tercel

I have installed a designtech (made for automatic cars) remote starter on my 1994 toyota tercel. I used 30 amp relays to  bypass clutch successfully. The remote starter diagnostics do not show any error. When I press the button on the remote, the units cranks and starts the car, but the starter is not disengaged. The car (I guess its starter) continues to make a high pitched whining sound.  When I start the car with key everything is normal. What shoud I do to make the remote starter disengage the starter after the engine gets in to idle mode. Any advice, suggestion will help me a lot. My car's doors freeeze in buffalo, NY winters and I need to get this unit running before the snow dump begins. Thanks..!!

(could this be simply because there could be some bad connections like starter2, iginition and vice versa..I did my best but I am not sure). I was thinking if the unit is working, the connections must be fine.

KRIS

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Kris Maly

I would say unplug the entire unit. That will get the unit to stop cranking and it will also keep you from getting sued for kiiling someone in the parking lot because you accidentally left the car in gear and this little old lady was walking her grandson into the store and you killed them dead, blood all over and the rookie mortician is in the corner puking his guts out.

Don't say i didn't warn you. continue at your own risk: seriously it would be a stupis decision to continue with this and to justify it to us and to yourself by saying "Dude I always leave my car in neutral" "I mean it dude, all the time". Thats not good enough for that lady who lost her mom and son.

So don't say I didn't warn you.

Moving on: Have you hooked up a tach wire? Are you in Tach mode or tachless mode? Do you even know? It sounds like the unit may be in tach mode and isn't seeing the signal. OR I just read a note that says the starter and the ignition circuits become common when the key is off. I would think that the starter would crank right away though, but then of course you wouldn't really know if the starter was cranking right away since you do not know when it would normally try to engage the starter. A-Ha! That must be it! So forget the last part I said about Tach. Dont forget the first things I told you though. You shuld go unplug that confoundit thing right now dangit "But Dude I always leave it in Neutral" ... thats not good enough.

So what you need to do is cut the starter wire and wire in a relay like so:

Pin 85 to a (-) out when running wire from the RS
Pin 86 to 12v+ constant
Pin 30 to the starter output from the RS AND the starter side of the cut wire (Thats very important)
Pin 87a to Key side of starter wire.

Good luck and get a good lawyer, maybe he can counter sue the woman whos kid and Mom you killed and maybe you could get rich and go drive a new BMW across her yard and across the dead's (we shall refer to them in the past tense now) grave.

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J Rilla

Owner/Installer

Hi J Rilla,

I understand the concern you have. Infact this was only meant for my home parking lot. So, The idea is to keep the remote at home ONLY. That way I wouldn't remote start it anywhere else. Besides this was purely experimental. Designtech and several other companies also sell units for manual cars where all they have is an additional switch that gets installed in the parking brake...hence making it supposedly safe. Going by your scary story..I wouldn't even trust those units. I didnot completely understand your solution to this. But, my unit is in tachless mode according to the diagnositc lights..and therefore doesnot require tach wire. Initially I thought that the RPM is high, but later I am guessing that its running the car idle at high voltage..and its the starter which continues to make that high pitched whining sound. My car has only 80hp engine and with parking brake on even if I turn the unit on in gear (1), it goes like 1.5 ft and comes to halt( but, parking brake can fail and always lead to accidents). The other features are that the transmitter has to be pressed for (in safe mode) 10seconds to start the car remotely.

I will still consider your suggestions carefully and most probably I will rip this unit out and keep it at home. I am also worried that this continuous trials would also screw up my starter. The whole value of the car is only $ 500 and I wouldn't risk so many lives for it. :)

I can assure this much, that so far no body has been killed or injured in this experiment.  Is there anyway I can get remote (safe) starter unit on this manual car??? Becos, its a two door car and usually the winter kills and freezes both the doors..and its a pain to get into the car.

Regards,

:)

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Kris Maly

The relay is what you need to do to fix the problem. Read above starting from where I said "A-Ha......"

Thats your problem.

There are units that are really safe and I have installed them. What happens is when you park, you leave the car running, enter stop and go mode (typical name for turning on remote starter with engine running) then you need to pull the ebrake and open and close the door (the unit needs to see the door open and close so you also hook up the door triggers. Then you turn the car off with the remote and the unit is in what is commonly called "Ready Mode". Then if one of the doors are opened before you attempt to remote start, the unit exits ready mode.


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J Rilla

Owner/Installer