No Crank? No start?
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=43696
Printed Date: July 19, 2025 at 4:27 AM
Topic: No Crank? No start?
Posted By: chr12is
Subject: No Crank? No start?
Date Posted: November 24, 2004 at 9:29 AM
Hey, I recently purchased a remote starter/alarm combo, and tried an install on it, I double checked all wires, everything was correct, I even took it to an installer and got him to look over it, and he said everything was fine. Here is my problem, the car will not start when i try to remote start. It wont do anything, it just sits there and doesnt do anything, no lights, no nothing. Even when I try to do the tach learning, it doesnt do anything....no beeps nothing. The installer said I needed a new brain, but before I go out and buy that, I would like to see if I can fix the one I have......is it just possible that I am doing the tach learning wrong? and that it doesnt learn the rpm so it wont even crank? I had the installer try to set all the codes, and it didnt seem to work for him either.....all it says for tach learning is to put handbrake up, neutral gear, turn car on (start engine), wait for RPM to settle, then hold remote start button......is this all I need to do? Or do i have to do the code learning thing to, where I turn the ignition on and off a few times, then enter code learning mode.....im so lost
Replies:
Posted By: StealthEs
Date Posted: November 24, 2004 at 10:38 AM
First of, does the alarm/keyless entry work? If so you dont need a new brain. What did you hook up the neutral safety switch wire up to? If you didnt hook this up to anything theres your problem. That wire has to see a ground in order to remote start the car. What make, model, and year is you car? Are you sure you have the right Tach wire? Even if you didnt the car would at least try to start.. ------------- Cris
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: November 24, 2004 at 10:52 AM
First off, tell us what brand system your using . Next tell us what make, model and year the vehicle is. Last, makes sure that you have the system in a good ground spot and that the fuses on the inline power wires are both good.
------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: jaurora
Date Posted: November 24, 2004 at 11:58 AM
I seem to be having the same problem but it is with an 02 impala. everything works but the remote start. As the idiot that I am, I noticed that there was a third ign wire for this vehicle that I did not connect to. Could this be the reason? It is a prestge APS-786. I have installed plenty of these in the past and never came across this problem. Suggestions? Thanks ------------- MECP certified (If it really means anything)
Jeremy
Posted By: riceman
Date Posted: November 24, 2004 at 11:59 AM
Did you make sure to have the netural safety switch wire hooked up, it has to see ground before RS. Also if you hooked up the hoodpin is it installed correctely,is the hood opened, if the hoodpin see ground the RS wont even crank. Even if you dont have the tach programmed it should crank n attempt to start, somethimes it does start without tach being programmed but will die a few seconds after RS. On some alarms you need the door open to get into programming menus, IE dei alarms, sometimes on the new cars the current from the door pin is very low. The low current can trigger the alarm but is not strong enough for programming. Try opening all doors when programming or just simply cut the negative door trigger wire n connect directly to ground for programming then put it back after your done. And next time when your posting for help try to be more descriptive IE alarm model, car make n model etc. Well hopefully that helps .
Posted By: chr12is
Date Posted: November 24, 2004 at 1:48 PM
Sorry about the lack of description guys....ok here goes, its a 97 Toyota corolla, the car alarm is called a Magicar FAI-8100 2 Way LCD alarm remote starter......the alarm and everything works fine, the only thing that doesnt is the remote starter.....the starter just doesnt do anything....now being the skeptic I am, I didnt think it needed a new brain, I just think the installer guy wanted some extra cash....I am going to check the hoodpin tonight, to see if it is grounded, and if it is, unground it, and if it is working right, and I dont really know what you mean by the neutral safety switch.....but I will take a look at it.....and if its not hooked up to anything I will try grounding it.....other than that im lost
Posted By: chr12is
Date Posted: November 24, 2004 at 1:51 PM
Oh and where would I find this neutral safety switch......i will look at the wiring diagram for the alarm tonight, and I will see if I can find it....but does this normally found inside, or outside the car, inside the engine bay......i just kinda mounted things blindly, and just attached wires where it said to
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: November 24, 2004 at 2:59 PM
jaurora wrote:
I seem to be having the same problem but it is with an 02 impala. everything works but the remote start. As the idiot that I am, I noticed that there was a third ign wire for this vehicle that I did not connect to. Could this be the reason? It is a prestge APS-786. I have installed plenty of these in the past and never came across this problem. Suggestions? Thanks
There is the BROWN accessory wire that must be powered as an accessory wire. If powered as an 2nd ignition the car will not crank. You will have 2 IGN and 2 ACC wires in total for the Impala: IGNITION=pink SECOND IGNITION=green ACCESSORY=orange SECOND ACCESSORY=brown ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: November 24, 2004 at 3:02 PM
Is the Corolla a manual or automatic and also, did you install the starter disable relay ? If so, make sure that you have the starter wire coming off the remote starter on the motor side ( pin 87a ) of the relay and not pin 30.
------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: jaurora
Date Posted: November 24, 2004 at 3:04 PM
Jeff, Thanks for the help. Will try on sunday to see what I screwed up. Also to get to the BCM on this car someone told me to go through the driver side fuse panel. Is this correct or do you know a better way? ------------- MECP certified (If it really means anything)
Jeremy
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: November 24, 2004 at 3:38 PM
The BCM is located above the brake pedal. It is a plastic box with three plugs that face the firewall.
------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: chr12is
Date Posted: November 25, 2004 at 7:23 AM
the car is an automatic, i have no idea whats wrong with it
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: November 25, 2004 at 9:43 AM
Did you install the starter disable relay ? If so, make sure that you have the starter wire coming off the remote starter on the motor side ( pin 87a ) of the relay and not pin 30.
------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
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