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Boa DIY remote start

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: October 31, 2024 at 6:37 PM


Topic: Boa DIY remote start

Posted By: meltingplastic
Subject: Boa DIY remote start
Date Posted: November 25, 2004 at 12:26 PM

Hey guys,
so i baught one of those cheap ass diy remote starts from bestbuy.. its just the remote start and thats it.. so everythings hooked up correctly everything meters our plus i used direct wire so i know the wires are correct even though i metered them out.. now my problem is getting the unit to recognize the remote.. it says u have to program it each time the battery is pulled... so i've attempted to program the unit like 10 times with nothing.. the instructions are pull the 2 30 amp fuses from the constant wires.. reconnect the battery(for this i just pull and reconnect the ground on the unit)... put the car in run.. after 5 seconds.. hold down the prog button on the remote and wait for the parking lights to flash.. well i have yet to have the lights flash(not hooked up.. relayed and hooked to the meter cause its - unit pos lights) i've held the unit for over a minute each time and nothing.. i know the relay is wire correctly so i know its not that.. just the unit doesnt wanna seem to learn the remote.. anyone have any problems like this with this unit if they've installed one.. i'm not too concerned right now enough to call up boa since they offer tech support but was just wondering if anyone has had this problem before...

ps car is a 97 blazer

-Mike

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Driving a Bagged, Caddied 02 s10



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Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: November 25, 2004 at 2:06 PM
What is confussing me is. You say "hold down the prog button on the REMOTE" dont you mean prog button on the alarm, the valet button.




Posted By: meltingplastic
Date Posted: November 25, 2004 at 2:29 PM
nope.. theres no valet switch or led.. its weird.. u need to hold the prog button on the remote...

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Driving a Bagged, Caddied 02 s10




Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: November 25, 2004 at 2:59 PM
Can you get any remote program. check to see that the antenna is not shorted to ground or something. Are the battiers good in the remotes.




Posted By: meltingplastic
Date Posted: November 25, 2004 at 3:19 PM
theres only 1 remote for the unit.. the antenna is covered so it cant ground from what i can tell.. the remotes led flashes when i hit buttons so im gonna say it works.. idk.. for $35 i guess i should expect this...

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Driving a Bagged, Caddied 02 s10




Posted By: meltingplastic
Date Posted: November 25, 2004 at 4:28 PM
well idk if it was the break for turkey but i went back outside and retried the programming and it works now.. no idea what was wrong with it... might of just not been able to sync on the other tries but its all good.. i would recommend this unit for anyone who has a winter beater and wants a cheap remote start!

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Driving a Bagged, Caddied 02 s10




Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: November 25, 2004 at 5:01 PM
Good to here you got it working, waht a pain though, i would get a back up battery for it though so dont have to go through that again.




Posted By: mobile1
Date Posted: November 25, 2004 at 10:29 PM
i did one of those myself in a winter beater and came across the same problem. It took about 10 to 15 tries but it did finally program for me. my range is awful. whats yours like?




Posted By: meltingplastic
Date Posted: November 26, 2004 at 6:21 PM
not bad at all.. able to do it from my room thats all i care about

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Driving a Bagged, Caddied 02 s10




Posted By: colombianitoxp
Date Posted: December 24, 2004 at 3:57 PM
Damn man, i'm having the same problem programing the remote to the cpu, i was able to get my headlights to blink twice while i was programming it but then when i tried to re start wit the remote, the lights didn't blink and it didn't do anything, you figure anything else out??




Posted By: DiscoKing
Date Posted: January 08, 2005 at 8:16 PM
I found that the boa system was very sensitive to the distance for setup.  I was sitting in the car trying to program the thing 5 or 6 times.  After reading a couple of posts I had somebody stand back 10-15 feet while I turned the key to on.  Worked like a charm.  After is was programmed the range is fine.  I don't know why it was so picky for setup. 




Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: January 08, 2005 at 9:15 PM
Tese BOA alarms, keyless, RS. They not already program form the factory.




Posted By: colombianitoxp
Date Posted: January 09, 2005 at 3:24 PM
No they are not pre programmed, but the best way to program it is to stand back fromt he car about 10 feet or so and then try it that shoudl work...kinda of a pain in the butt, but it works alrite....standing back should work... Good Luck




Posted By: mainormoscoso
Date Posted: January 09, 2005 at 9:25 PM
is te battery of the remote on this units change the battery and then try programing again, it worked for me




Posted By: gfevans
Date Posted: January 10, 2005 at 10:23 AM

I am having the same problem with the the remote and receiver (the BOA 165B) talking to each other.  I know I hooked up all leads properly and I too have a positive triggered parking light so I'll need a relay.  (Installing on a 2002 Saturn with no special passive cutoff or alarms). 

My main concern is that I have a few leads (H1/1 (-200mA Status Output), H1/2 (Tach), H1/6 (- Remote Start Activation Input), H1/7 (Factory Alarm) and the F (Output to IGN2 Circuit)) that are not needed and not hooked to anything, sitting open circuit currently.  Do all of these lead need to be tied high, low, etc to enable this module to function properly or can they be left open?  Also for at least the programming of the module portion, do I need to have the parking light flash output (H1/8) tied to a load or can I just monitor it with a multimeter?

thanks.



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GFE




Posted By: colombianitoxp
Date Posted: January 10, 2005 at 10:49 AM
You dont need to have those hooked up in order for the starter to work, the H1/1 is left untouched, and the H1/7 is left free if yo dont have a factory alarm and the IGN2 is left untoched if you dont have a second ignition wire, but the Tach should be connected if your vehicles voltage doesnt change significantly while the car is running, if the starter is not able to detect the fluctiations in the voltage then you should detenitly hook up the TACH wire so that it knows when the car is running and so that it will not try to crank the engine again if the vehicle has already started...and if im not mistaken on the 165B the parkin light is a negative trigger so you could check with a DMM by connecting it to a +12 volts and the black test lead to the parking wire out of the main unit....OR you could use the tester inlcuded with the system....check the battery in the remote with the DMM and try not to program it from too close,also if the main unit is attached to metal it hurts the range ....Good Luck ...hope i was of some help




Posted By: gfevans
Date Posted: January 10, 2005 at 10:59 AM

Thanks, my car has a significant voltage swing on the output so I should be fine but I may hook it up anyway to have double the security.

I just spoke with the BOA people and they noted that if I just want to test the module and not worry about configuring the remote yet, you just need to take the H1/6 (WHITE/ Blue Remote Start Activation Input) lead and tap it to ground twice and it will trigger the remote start system.  Just a piece of advice to share with all who want to confirm their wiring is correct and the module functions properly at least.



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GFE




Posted By: biggy169
Date Posted: January 11, 2005 at 12:07 AM
I accidentally threw away the manual to this thing (Boa 165b) remote start. I was thinking that the CD would have the nec. Info. Yeah right. No wI have my car all spliced, and don't know which wire to connect where on the brain. (Specifically the six wires on the top that just slide over the connectors.) I have been on hold with directed over 3 hours on diff. occasions and noone has answered the phone yet. The website is a joke... and I'm gettin' spent. Help if U can.




Posted By: colombianitoxp
Date Posted: January 12, 2005 at 2:23 PM
No doubt man, but you should definetly try to keep them manuals at least until you install it...anywho..

orange (+) 30A output to accesory circuit
REd    (+) 30A high current to 12 V
Violet (+) output to starter circuit
Pink   (+) output to ignition circuit
Red    (+)
Pink/White (+) output to igntion

Blue (-) 200mA status output
Violet/White tach
Brown (+) Brake Switch
Gray (-) Hood Pin
Black   Ground
WHITE/ Blue(-) remote start activation input
Light GREEN/ Black factory alarm disarm
White (-) parking light flash output

hope it helps.,.... ColombianitoXP
      




Posted By: pOMP
Date Posted: January 13, 2005 at 11:01 AM
I got this Boa system from Best Buy too. Had it installed this week at an installation place. Yea, the range stinks and half the time when we try to remote start it, the lights flash and the doors unlock with no start. Any ideas here?




Posted By: leebomd
Date Posted: January 15, 2005 at 5:37 PM

I just installed a BOA remote start and keyless bought from a retailer also. I was wondering if anyone elses has the parking lights flash after startup. Most of the other ones i have seen are on steady.

Is this normal? What might be wrong. It was installed on a 1993 Pontiac Grand AM.

The range was less than desireable also. I suspect this because the antenna wire is too short and barely clears the dash.

Thanks,

Lee



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Leebo




Posted By: harveje
Date Posted: February 03, 2005 at 9:26 PM

You can go to directeds web site and look under a rattler 165b for the instructions.

My unit will not click, program or do jack ????

it's been a PITA





Posted By: meltingplastic
Date Posted: February 04, 2005 at 9:31 AM
make sure to pull the fuses each time before u go to program it.. and step a few feet away from the car.. i've gotten the install on these things down pact(yay for friends who dont pay me to install them!) its really not a bad unit for the $ i just dont get why when its hooked up to an aftermarket alarm the distance is killed.. makes no sense.. but whatever.. thank god they stopped selling them.. we got soo many complaints about it at best buy and people asking for help and its like it says diy we cant touch it and cant tell ya go to

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Driving a Bagged, Caddied 02 s10




Posted By: mikk
Date Posted: February 08, 2005 at 11:38 PM
I have installed the same unit and wanted to trigger it with my viper keyless and had maybe 20ft of range on a good day. tried just about everything from new car battery to seperate wires from battery and notta bit of difference in the range. i did recently uninstall it along with the keyless viper210hv and installed and ultra start 4255 and its like night and day compared to the boa in range. 2000ft comapred to 20ft with the boa.

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mikk





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