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2005 F350 Superduty Start?

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Topic: 2005 F350 Superduty Start?

Posted By: speedracertjl
Subject: 2005 F350 Superduty Start?
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 9:39 AM

Hey guys, I have an '05 F350 superduty to do...Is it the same as an 04? Also..i have seen a few post about the lack of a tach wire, and a sensitive "wait to start" wire? any thoughts? also read something about having to wake up the GEM or BCM module? any help would be great.Tom



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Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 11:07 AM
No usable tach, no wait to start wire.
Transponder for 05

no wakeup needed though.



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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta




Posted By: speedracertjl
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 1:19 PM
so i dont have to hook up a "wait to start" wire? or do i need a module? if so which one? sorry..ive only done one other diesel.




Posted By: f350r
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 7:31 PM

I am very new to this as well.  Your 05 should have the same wires as my 04 that I am having problems with.  You won't find a wait to start wire it's bussed into the dash assembly.  The Tach wire should be behind the fuse box next to the parking brake in the bundle of dead ended wires, it's Lg/Wh.  I looked it up last night on Ford shop DVD to double check it as I am having problems with this wire not being a tach source, it has 12V on it in my truck.  I have received from many different sources that this is the correct wire for a tach signal and hte DVD verifies it as well page 26-11.  The Lg/wh wire goes to the PCM under the left battery cover connector c1381a and is still Lg/Wh at that point I am not sure which of the three connectors is c1381a yet as it rather cold this mornign (-2) so I haven't looked into it yet.  I want to test mine at the PCM to see if it is a tach signal there, if not I will have to tap into one of the injector wires and use that as a tach signal.  As for wait to start my crimestopper has programed time delays before cranking.  I tried to use the tachless mode but it doesn't crank long enough to start and increasing the crank time doesn't seem to be an option on the crimestopper.  I saved the PDF page if your interested I can send it to you.

Another thing that seems wrong with mine is that it only tries to start oen time and never tries the second or third time, anyone have any ideas on that problem?  I checked the ground and moved it from the original location to whre the factory grounds are but that didn't help.

 





Posted By: speedracertjl
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 9:41 PM
thanks for your input...as for why it isnt trying to start again? my guess is that it doesnt know whether to try to start again because you havent hooked up the tach wire and you said the tachless mode doesnt work..and i believe thats how the system knows whether to try again.If you get yours working OK let me know what you found, and if i find anything else out ill be sure to post it.




Posted By: f350r
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 2:16 PM
Here is some information that I gathered from  https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/   "The CTO (Clean Tach Out) Lg/Wh wire appears 12 volts on a voltmeter, but if you use an oscilloscope, the wave is shown going to ground four times (V8 engine) or five times (V10 engine) the engine rpm."  I have it working now, the remote may also have been still programed for tachless sense which would also fight against getting it work off of the tach wire.




Posted By: speedracertjl
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 3:32 PM
cool..thanks...what about the "wait to start" no word on that huh?




Posted By: audifive
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 4:40 PM
directed makes a 528T wait to start timer adjustable from 0-90 seconds.  they are around $20.  no need to look for or splice into a wait to start wire.




Posted By: f350r
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 4:58 PM
With the crimestopper I can program 0, 10, 20, or 30 seconds for a wait to start delayed time.




Posted By: speedracertjl
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 5:19 PM
is there even a way to hook up the "glow plug" wire...I have a Comfort Start from Omega that doesnt have a delay time..and my install is tomorrow morning..and i dont have the 528T to use?thanks for all the help guys




Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 5:27 PM
there is no way.

ahve to find a DEI 528T

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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta




Posted By: speedracertjl
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 6:09 PM
thanks shaughn..ill get my hands on one




Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 8:30 PM

Just completed a 03 F350 with the same issues as it seems the 04 and 05 have. There was no wait to start wire that could trigger the glow plug delay and there was a tach wire in my vehicle. If I remember right it was a green or green white wire that is found above the e-brake release. It is held up by white tape and in a bunch of 5 wires that simply terminate right there. This was to allow a little more flexibility for expansion by Ford with accessories. Look close for it, drop the fusebox out of the way by removing the 4 bolts and it will be much easier to see.

For my wait to start I used a PAC TR7 as it was all I could get my hands on. I do not recommend that you use this infernal device as it was a B.I.T.C.H. to program and the instructions sucked blue whale. The DEI 528T module looked much easier to use but not having seen one I cannot verify this. It is toggled by the - disarm wire from your remote start brain and then it should give you an adjustable countdown timer to trigger the + or - wait to start wire on the brain.



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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.




Posted By: speedracertjl
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 8:36 PM
cool..thanks for all your help guys




Posted By: dfiddy
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 10:29 PM
I have used DEIs timer on these, and voltage sense as well instead of tach. Works great.





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