97 Cavalier, Passlock I

I just installed a Crimestopper RS900vii into a 97 Cavalier.  Now I couldn't get the relay method to work, so I said screw it, and bought a 555l bypass module.  I wired it up.  Start the car, let it run for about 30 seconds.  Turn the car off, then remote start it.  Starts right up!  GREAT!  I shut it down, and try to start it again.  Starts up again.  I start putting it back together, then try starting it again.  No go...

It seems to work fine if I remote start it, then put the key in and go from there.  But if I don't use the key at all, it starts having problems.  I noticed that the 2nd or 3rd time, the theft light would come on.  then it shut off after a bit.  But is this normal?  Or should you be able to start it up over and over without ever using the key?

I used the accessory wire for the violet (ground while start) wire.  But then after it wouldn't work all the time, I wired up a relay, to change the starter from +12v  to ground.  And it didn't make a difference.

And suggestions?  Is this just how it is???

P.S. I hate Cavaliers and Passlock I...  lol.

tim

Where do you have the BLACK/ White wire from 555 hooked to?
Check your YELLOW & BLACK / YELLOW wires from 555 to make sure they are not reversed.
Also:

<<"I used the accessory wire for the violet (ground while start) wire.  But then after it wouldn't work all the time, I wired up a relay, to change the starter from +12v  to ground.  And it didn't make a difference.">>

Not sure what U meant, but the VIOLET wire from 555 has to have a Negative Input while the RS is  Cranking.

Sorry, it is a 1997 Cavalier.

The BLACK/ white wire, went to a black wire in the ignition harness.  In a plug with 2 power wires.  This wire tested ground during crank.

The yellow and yellow/black are not reversed.

For the violet wire, I used the starter output from the RS.  There is no -during crank on the Crimestopper.  I used a relay to make the starter wire also a -while start.  (The accessory wire reads ground while crank too, that's why I tried that).

The car starts with the key fine, and starts with the starter fine, unless you start it more than once with the remote start.

As long as it was last started with the key, it seems to remote start.

Does that make sense?  I'm tryin to explain it right lol...

thanks

tim

Anyone know if this is normal?

tim

Yah it's like it will lose the proramming.  but it will work fine if the car is run with the key first.  (Even if you remote start it, then put the key in and drive).  But if you just remote start, shut it off, remote start, shut it off, then it starts having problems.

As the bulb check, I used a black wire, in the same plug as the 2 power wires coming out of the ignition.  It tested as ground while crank.

tim

if it works fine on a normal basis ( remote start --> get in and drive --> shut down --> remote start again...) thats fine. don't worry yourself over the way it tests, because the L is designed to relearn the code everytime it sees the key, so it's probably just forgetting it's programming and need to be oprated under more normal conditions.

Ok, I was just wondering if this was a normal thing.

Thanks for the replies!

tim

Installed Crimestopper remote start with a 555l bypass module.  Now sometimes the car will remote start first try, then sometimes it will start up then shut down right away, then on the second or third time it will start.  It's pretty annoying.  Any ideas of what could cause that?  I'm confused because sometimes it works perfectly.

At first I thought that it was just because the key wasn't being used between remote starts (me testing it out over and over), but it has done it after running with the key.

Any suggestions / theories?  I suggest driving the car off a cliff...  lol but that's not an option.

please help

tim

Yes I got a tach, and the 555l self learns, all you do is rund the car.

tim

I tried doing it that way first and had no success at all.  I don't know what I was doing wrong, but it would not work.  The 555l will work, at least some times.

tim

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Try grounding the 555l black groun ref. wire in the kick panel. Sometimes the ground ref. in car is not strong enough for the 555 to work .

Ill give that a shot..  Is there any reason to not ground it to the passlock ground?

tim

i see alot of cars that the passlock ground isn't strong enough in. i dn'[t care why, i just ground the module, and it works. at this point, thats the best suggestion i've heard. it's hard to say w/o the car in front of me. did yoyu try peeing on the car? try that.

Hmmmm...  peeing on the car...  I like that idea, but I don't think my girlfriend would like me to pee on her car lol.

Ill have to switch the ground and see if that works.

Thanks

tim

Ok, I have it so the violet wire only sees ground while RS crank, and I tried using chassis ground instead of passlock ground, and still not working right.  I'm about to drive the car off a cliff, Cavaliers suck...

tim

hey, i just got done putting a remote start on my 97 chevy cavalier. i had the same prob. dose your theft light blink after it shuts itself off. then that was my same prob. i found that the problem was the bulb wire. what i remember was it was the smallest black wire. i found black wires it could have been. it ended up being the smallest one, on the top harness. there was two diff. harnesses used for remote start. the bulb wire is on the top one.

but now mabey you can help me, how in the **** did you hook up the power locks. i have been messing with them for the last week. when i lock, all the doors lock. but when i unlock, all but the driver unlock????? please help me fix my retarded cavy.

p.s.   coming from a owner, dont ever buy a cavalier

I got the bulb test wire in the ignition harness, next to the 2 red power wires.  It testesd as ground during crank.

As for door locks sorry I can't really help you there, her car doesn't have power door locks.  But I see that they  are 5 wire if on a non keyless entry car, mastered from the passenger side.  If keyless, then they are positive trigger.

thanks for the help

tim