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MM vs Test Light

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=49667
Printed Date: May 15, 2024 at 2:31 PM


Topic: MM vs Test Light

Posted By: uglyb0b
Subject: MM vs Test Light
Date Posted: February 08, 2005 at 7:29 PM

Hello all. I was wondering if someone could take a few moments and educate me on how (technically) a multi meter is safer than a test light. A long time ago, I installed new stereos in cars. This was way before air bags, computers, etc. I simply used a test light and everything was peachy.

I understand now that using a test light can damage a circuit/blow an airbag/etc, whereas a mutli meter cannot. I am wanting to know why.

I’m not looking for an argument that you need to use a mm over a test light. I get that. I would just like to understand why for me.

For example: is a test light more of an “intrusive” or “active” way of testing, and can complete a circuit (hence blow an airbag)? Whereas a mm is more of a “passive” testing method? In other words, a mm just sits there and tells you whats going on (voltage wise) but doesn’t actually intrude on the circuit like a test light can/will?

Any clarification someone can provide would be appreciated. Thanks.



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Posted By: benjammin74
Date Posted: February 08, 2005 at 11:28 PM
you answered your own question. test lights are obsolete. no clarification needed, just be safe and don't use one. its not worth the risk.

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car audio pays my bills...




Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: February 09, 2005 at 9:20 AM

the circuitry of a MM acts as a filter, which prevents blowing things up....

the problem with test lights, even the "computer safe" test lights, is that they illuminate with anywhere from 2 volts to 18 volts..... i've been burned in the past from assuming i had a good connection/circuit because a test light lit up, only to go back to that same circuit after 20 minutes of further troubleshooting and meter it properly with a meter and find out i only have 4 or 6 volts, where i should have had 12 or 14 volts....... this whole industry is about remembering the lessons we learn along the way.... for the past 10-15 years all i use for circuit testing is a good quality digital MM ( analogue when checking for shorted speaker wires )



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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979




Posted By: traitorhound
Date Posted: February 09, 2005 at 9:42 AM
kgerry, why analog mm for speaker wires?  just curious




Posted By: riceman
Date Posted: February 09, 2005 at 2:09 PM

Kgerry ,what about the powerlogic II probe, is that a safe probe to use ? I've accidentallly used it when trouble shooting an RS and probe the tach wire by accident and nothing happened. I would never use a powerlogic to find a tach wire. I would use a DMM to find  tach . I've used that snap-on  hummingbird, mac , those all leak ground. I've found the that the powerlogic II probe makes my job alot easier. But I'm still very cautious when using it, when in doubt I still rely on my DMM. I think that with common sense you can use test light & logic probe. But I was wondering what are your opinions on the powerlogic II probe? thanks





Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: February 09, 2005 at 2:19 PM

no real reason per se, just habit... when you see the needle start to climb you know you have continuity to ground ( where you shouldnt )... i bought a couple of good analogue meters when i opened in the late seventies, early eighties and they still work fine so thats what i use.... it's actually quicker for testing than waiting for a DMM to auto-range.... 



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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979




Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: February 09, 2005 at 2:24 PM
i use logic probes for checking data, but never used one to check tach... any DMM with an AC setting will test tach fine....

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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979





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