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Compustar on Trailblazer

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 02, 2024 at 3:21 PM


Topic: Compustar on Trailblazer

Posted By: gsxrfl03
Subject: Compustar on Trailblazer
Date Posted: February 11, 2005 at 4:33 PM

I purchased a Compustar 2W900FM-AS on Ebay.  Unfortunately, there were no authorized dealers even close to my area (Orlando).  So rather than try to undertake this project on my own, I called around to a few local shops and Best Buy had the best price.  I've heard mixed reviews about the large chains so I decided to take a chance... Big mistake, the guy had my car for 3 entire days when he initially said the install should take 6 hours.  When I did finally get the car back the alarm system works, but not perfectly.  For what I paid, less than perfect is just not acceptable.  My hardware:  2002 Chevy LTZ, Compustar 2W900FM-AS, I picked up a DEI 555L, 455G, and 2 DEI 530T's.  I want the ability to roll the windows up when armed and roll them down/vent from the remote. He got the alarm operational and the remote start. The best buy guy was unable to figure out how to get the windows to roll up on arm as he said my alarm is unlike any he's ever seen (which is only DEI i guess).  He was able to get them to go down with AUX I, and intially up on AUX 2, but that stopped working all together. So I (not him) after getting my car back the first time called Compustar tech support to get some info.  They said that the violet wire needed to be diode isolated.   I called BB and told the installer, he said "no problem" i  know exactly what to do.  I took the car back to him, and 2 hours later, he still couldn't figure it out. 

Compustar tech support won't really talk to me since I'm not a dealer and since there are no dealers locally, I'm stuck and asking for anyone out there for assitance. I called again and they did say i could just connect the ground when armed output, but why wouldnt the installer just do that if it was so easy??  Sorry for the long post, but this has been a big mess.. So, for those of you familiar with my equipment, can you please tell me how i would go about getting the system to roll the windows up on arm?  I never done an alarm, have done lots of amps and h/u's, so I'm pretty handy with wires, but need direction.  I plan on getting into the kick panel and hopefully getting it to work from what he's already done.  Does anyone know which wires specifically need to be connected from the compustar to the window modules to get this to work?  Thank you so much.




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Posted By: CBill
Date Posted: February 11, 2005 at 6:08 PM

I never installed a Compustar system before but from reading your post it sound to me that he haven't connect the Windows module to the "Grounded when armed" wire if compustar have that wire and I bet it have that wire .. 

Also you'll need to diode isolate the windows module to the "grounded when armed" wire because I am sure they have installed a starter disable relay switch on it too which also need to be diode isolated as well too ..

If the windows module is rolling up and down the windows then pretty much that the module is installed correctly and you'll just need to connect it to the grounded when arm if you want it to roll up when it armed .. I have mine connected to a relay switch  and a switch hidden in a fuse box to a grounded when arm and another contact point to the aux channel on the remote so I can have it roll up when armed or roll up using aux channel or disable the "roll up when armed" using the switch in the fuse box during cool season if I wanted to leave window down but still arm the truck .. Some module have a built in  feature where you aux channel roll down and then within 5 second arm your system that it will ignore the roll up command but I rather use a disable switch than fumbling around on the remote to enable "do not roll up when arm" every time I arm my truck ..

Hope it helps ..

Bill





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: February 11, 2005 at 6:37 PM
On CN1 there is a VIOLET wire that will be the wire that you want to tap into to control your window module when armed. Aside from that 3 days to do an installation !!!!! Good thing they didn't charge by the hours posted_image

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: gsxrfl03
Date Posted: February 11, 2005 at 8:29 PM
Thanks very much for the replies... According to the Compustar wiring diagram, wire 5, the violet wire on CN1 is for starter kill/anti grind... that's the right one? The guy at best buy said the wiring diagram was all wrong and useless, but i didn't know if he was just BSing or not... So the violet wire would connect to the orange wire on the 530T's? What about the orange wire 1 on CN5?

"Good thing they didn't charge by the hours" Yeah, they're were trying to use that as an excuse to not install it correctly, "we should be charging you more since it took so long". Like i should have to pay because they didn't know what they're doing....    Thanks again.




Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: February 11, 2005 at 10:26 PM
the CM3000 brain does have a label saying (-) when armed. the violet on CN1 is the equivalent but its prewuired to the starter kill relay. so, thats why the install didnt know about it.

gsxrfl03 wrote:

I called again and they did say i could just connect the ground when armed output, but why wouldnt the installer just do that if it was so easy??



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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).




Posted By: gsxrfl03
Date Posted: February 14, 2005 at 11:31 AM
I tried tapping into the violet wire on CN1 with the orange wires (H2/4) from each window module. Nothing happened.. any ideas?




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: February 14, 2005 at 12:10 PM
Try grounding out the ORANGE wire on the window modules. If nothing happens then you have wiring issues elsewhere. Post your results.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: gsxrfl03
Date Posted: February 14, 2005 at 12:17 PM
I did try that. Nothing happens... The modules seem to function ok other than the roll up when armed feature. The one touch up and down works on all 4 windows. Also, I can roll the windows down with AUX1. They originally worked to roll up with AUX2... it worked for a couple of days and just stopped. They won't roll up from the remote at all now.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: February 14, 2005 at 1:06 PM
Did you test the VIOLET wire for a constant (-) output when armed ? Another thing to check is to make sure that you did not program the Anti-jacking option to ON by mistake.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: gsxrfl03
Date Posted: February 14, 2005 at 6:02 PM
Thanks Velocity. I double checked the programming, Anti-hijack is turned off. Assuming that the alarm is working properly (there is a constant (-) output when armed), is there anything else it could be??




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: February 14, 2005 at 7:13 PM
The only other thing is that the output on the VIOLET wire is not strong enough to trigger the module. In this case wire in a relay to boost the (-) from the VIOLET wire to the relay and have the output of the relay go to the module.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: gsxrfl03
Date Posted: February 28, 2005 at 6:57 PM
Ok, I got the windows to roll up with arm, had to use two relays. But, I'm having another issue. Everything works ok for awhile and then the windows stop rolling up on arm. They still roll down when I hit aux I... I was wondering, and just for fun I disconnected the battery and reconnected it, miraculously the windows roll up on arm again. Any ideas? Something else I also noticed: when the alarm stops rolling up the windows, I now have to hit the aux channel button twice to get the windows to roll down... could that be related? one final question, i noticed if i roll the windows down with the remote, they will not rollup when I arm the car that time, until the car has been turned off and on again? is this normal?? thanks for the help




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: February 28, 2005 at 7:44 PM
When you remove the battery cable, do you reprogram the AUX channel ? Also, have you tested the starter disable wire for (-) when armed ? Just want to make sure that you know what the problem is. Sometimes the window modules gives feedback into the trigger wire causing an error in the window module and making it stop prematurely.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: gsxrfl03
Date Posted: February 28, 2005 at 9:26 PM
No, didn't reprogram the AUX channel, as it works without reprogramming... The starter disable wire (violet right?) apparently wasn't putting out a strong enough signal to activate the window modules, that's why relays were used... ideas??





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