98 Grand Caravan w/Astroflex 3306a proble

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Topic: 98 Grand Caravan w/Astroflex 3306a proble

Posted By: BOWLESJ
Subject: 98 Grand Caravan w/Astroflex 3306a proble
Date Posted: March 09, 2005 at 10:43 PM

Hello,

I am hoping to gain help with some problems I'm having with an Astroflex 3006A install on a 98 Dodge Caravan. I will be trying the manufacturer but am not sure I'll get a lot of help since I am not an installer. So, I am trying here also.

First problem is when I test the main harness (251) connections the parking lights do not work right. This makes sense because it appears the lights must use a resistor since there is 10.4 volts on a GREEN / WHITE wire at the switch. Jumping this wire to ground turns the park lights on. However, the 3006A hookup and test diagram indicates 12 volts provided to the park lights. What is needed by my determination is for the 3006a to provide a ground. Anyone know for sure? For now I just have the park lights disconnected from the system.

Second problem is when I perform a remote start, the van starts fine, starter cuts out, engine runs for 5-10 seconds then shuts down. The module LED flashes 6 times which indicates transmission not in N or P fault. I have the WHITE/ orange harness 253 wire in the park tab position as determined by the detection process. Regardless, the transmission position shouldn't matter once the park tab position is used. Further, this fault should be a no start fault, shouldn't it, rather than a shutdown? There is no factory alarm installed and I have no alarm features installed yet.

The third problem, which I'm really not too worried about yet, is while investigating the door lock hookup, I noticed with the left BCM connector connected and the right connector disconnected, the lock button only works, unlock does not work. The right connector must be connected for both lock/unlock to work. This tells me that a lock wire is in one connector and unlock in the other connector. For a single wire system, what is going on here?

One final thing, is there any Astroflex info available anywhere. Their web site isn't to useful. I'm finding other mfg. sites more useful. I bought an Astroflex because I heard they are pretty good systems. I just bought the van and my maint manual hasn't arrived yet. Hoping it has some real wire diagrams. Any help sure will be appreciated.

Thanks

John

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Posted By: BOWLESJ
Date Posted: March 10, 2005 at 12:17 AM

Ok, looks like I'm going to have to use a relay for the parking lights, so I can handle that as long as I'm not missing something else. I'll use the 12 volt 3006a signal to pass the park light 10.4 volts to ground.

The doors should be no problem, I'm going to use the factory relays as described on another web site. Just thought the the 2 connectors affecting the lock operation was unusual based on what I've read.

However, the shutdown problem is really concerning me. Hope someone knows why.

Thanks again,

John

Posted By: thepencil
Date Posted: March 10, 2005 at 10:39 AM

"One final thing, is there any Astroflex info available anywhere. Their web site isn't to useful. I'm finding other mfg. sites more useful. I bought an Astroflex because I heard they are pretty good systems."

They are (Lifetime warrenty). They are dealer install unit only so finding help on it will be hard if the unit didn't come from a legitimate dealer. However, you are in the right area as there are a few dealer here on this site who can help you out and won't questions the source of your purchase. Here is a diagrams to help you start trouble shooting the issue concerning your car.

DIRECTWIRE™ WIRING INFORMATION - DODGE / CARAVAN / 1998 / Remote Start

12volts red   +   ignition harness
Starter yellow   +   ignition harness
Second Starter
Ignition blue   +   ignition harness
Second Ignition BLACK/ orange   +   ignition harness
Third Ignition
Accessory BLACK/ white   +   ignition harness
Notes: Not required for remote start.
Second Accessory
Keysense
Power Lock WHITE/ green      left plug at bottom of fuse
Notes: Use relays and set up for negative trigger. Place a 4020 ohm resistor inline on the lock output, and a 665 ohm resistor inline on the unlock output. If you do not have a factory security system use a 1500 ohm for lock and a 250 ohm for unlock.
Power Unlock same wire      box under cover (1 of 3)
Lock Motor BROWN / yellow
Notes: The door lock motor wires are located in the top left plug at the relay/fuse box under the drivers side of the dash.
Unlock Motor BLACK/ pink
Notes: The door lock motor wires are located in the top left plug at the relay/fuse box under the drivers side of the dash.
Parking Lights+ do NOT use
Parking Lights- grn/wht or grn/red      at light switch
Notes: If the van has auto lamps, see direct fax document #1080.
Hazards
Turn Signal(L)
Turn Signal(R)
Reverse Light
Door Trigger BROWN / lt. green   -   dome light on/off switch
Dome Supervision BROWN / white   -   dome light on/off switch
Trunk/Hatch Pin tied in with doors
Hood Pin do not use
Trunk/Hatch Release
Power Sliding Door
Factory Alarm Arm arms with lock
Factory Alarm Disarm disarms with unlock
Disarm No Unlock see directfax 1081
Tachometer gray or gray/red   AC   ignition coil
Wait to start
Brake Wire WHITE/ tan   +   brake switch
Parking Brake
Horn Trigger gray/orange   -   top right plug of fuse box
Memory Seat 1
Memory Seat 2
Memory Seat 3
Immobilizer Bypass Module: Required: No Type: N/A Part #: N/A
Notes: N/A


This wiring information is being provided free of charge on an "as is" basis, without any representation or warranty. It is your responsibility to verify any circuit before interfacing with it using a digital multimeter.
Directed electronics, Inc. assumes no responsibility with regards to the accuracy or currency of this information. Proper installation in every case is and remains the responsibility of the installer. DEI assumes no liability or responsibility resulting from improper installation, even in reliance upon this information.

1080.pdf

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Posted By: BOWLESJ
Date Posted: March 10, 2005 at 1:20 PM

Thanks for the info Pencil, you included some additional info that I didn't have.

Also, I contacted Astroflex tech support and they actually talked to me. The problem I asked them about was the 10 second shutdown. According to the tech guy I just need to take the ORANGE / white wire in the 253 harness from the 3006A module park position and put it to ground. Apparently, some of the modules are not grounded right internally. I'll have to get home and try this out. Hope it works. Has anyone else heard of, or experienced this?

Thanks again,

John

Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: March 11, 2005 at 12:27 AM

You got lucky my friend......the tech support is for dealers only. They must have had a slow day.....Astro has since then eliminated the whole auto trans shift position "thing" They were very safty minded....too much so, I think!

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Posted By: BOWLESJ
Date Posted: March 11, 2005 at 7:55 PM

Yes, KTM, I was sweating it, but had to give a try to Astro since I wasn't hearing much here, and the unit definetely wasn't performing as advertised. With the transmission sense wire grounded as per Astroflex everything works great. Locks and lights all working well also. The wife is a very happy person here in Minnesota.

Thanks again for the support,

John