Soldering
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 1:06 AM
Topic: Soldering
Posted By: crabman2336
Subject: Soldering
Date Posted: March 16, 2005 at 5:51 PM
I would like to know if useing the open flame on a butane iron is a normal practice for soldering on auto alarm wireing. is this ok?
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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: March 16, 2005 at 5:54 PM
If you mean using the just the flame from the iron, the iron without a tip, then HELL NO THIS ISN'T SAFE INSIDE A VEHICLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: spl-Hz
Date Posted: March 16, 2005 at 6:08 PM
Talk about melted insulation. VERY SCARY!!!!
Posted By: thepencil
Date Posted: March 16, 2005 at 9:20 PM
crabman2336 wrote:
I would like to know if useing the open flame on a butane iron is a normal practice for soldering on auto alarm wireing. is this ok?
If you mean cordless, yes. However if you mean working with an open flame in the car then no. Stick with an electric solder gun. Cost you $15 and it will get the job done without causing any injury to yourself or the things around you. Spend a bit on more if you are planning to use it on a daily basis. ------------- Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it. 
Posted By: daniel2002p
Date Posted: March 17, 2005 at 7:23 PM
I like to use a butane torch that has a very small flame.
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Posted By: mladams
Date Posted: March 18, 2005 at 1:57 PM
not really a good idea, you want the wire to basically "absorb" the solder and for it to do this you sould heat the wire first and then apply the solder. For the best connection you sould apply solder to the heated gun, then apply the gun to the wire, then apply more solder to the wire. It works best with a solder gun.
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Posted By: oreo lover
Date Posted: March 18, 2005 at 4:03 PM
Wire flux is your best friend when soldering. It makes for better flow and final product.
Posted By: nava94
Date Posted: March 19, 2005 at 12:25 PM
using a cordless butane is best as long as you solder your connections your ok, you won't have to worry about your work coming back and an upset customer too. OOh and do not use t-taps.
Posted By: mnviking28
Date Posted: March 21, 2005 at 1:01 PM
If you plan on doing more than one or two, definitely spend the money and get a decent cordless butane iron. You can buy one for about $50 and not have to worry about cords and the heat up time on some electrics. There isn't an open flame and you have instant heat control by dialing the temperature up and down. I have used mine for about two years and have had zero problems with it. I always hated having to deal with a cord every time I had to get under a dash to work. Some cars it seems like you barely have enough room for your hands, much less an iron with a cord sticking out of it. I will never use a corded iron again. It is definitely the way to go. Next to my DMM, it is one of my most important tools.
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Posted By: rsudbay
Date Posted: March 21, 2005 at 4:38 PM
i seem to always have problems soldering. so you let the iron sit on the wires and let them get hot. about how long dose it take a $15 electric iron to get the wires to the right temp? when i try it it never seems to get hot enough?
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Posted By: mladams
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 12:29 PM
make sure the tip of the iron is very clean, if it's dirty the dirt will absorb the heat. To clean it all you have to do is heat it slightly, not full temp, and use a scraper or razor and keep scraping it until shines again. Other tools could be sand paper or steel wool. Sometimes they work better. Otherwise that should help you out. Is by chance those steps don't help it is probably time to replace the tip. As it wears out it will stop heating the wires quickly. You will be greatly surprised at how much of a diference changing the tip or cleaning it will make. ------------- Matt Adams
Electrical Engineer Major
York College of PA
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