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93 Supra won’t start

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 23, 2024 at 4:38 PM


Topic: 93 Supra won’t start

Posted By: KraziSupra93
Subject: 93 Supra won’t start
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 1:57 PM

Went out to start my car the other day and well it didn't start. Turned the key and I got nothing, not even a clicking noise. Just dead silence. The car has been sitting for a couple months but I checked and charged the battery and its reading 12-14 volts which is plenty to turn the car over. So read the manuals and went after what they said to do if your engine doesnt crank .Replaced the starter since it  failed all 6 tests, but the car still did not start. Checked every fuse I could find and everyone was good. Even went after the ignition switch and checked that, and that was fine. i have all my interior lights and headlights, doesn't make sense? Although now I'm thinking its the alarm doing all this. I really don't know anything about the orginal alarm that came with the car but I bought the car with an aftermarket alarm as well. On the key ring it says Viper but I also have a specail key that is needed to start the car and that is a Clifford. If anyone can help me it would be a big help. I have to get the car running ASAP! Thanks so much!



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Posted By: ken984
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 3:12 PM
If it was the alarm you would almost certainly see the parking lights flashing and or a siren going off. Do any of the remote buttons make anything happen?? And if so which one the Viper or the Clifford? Viper up until recently used only cormally closed starter kill so pulling the fuse would disable the starter kill and it would start, Clifford has had both types so pulling a fuse there might not allow the car to start depending on which starter kill system is installed. Also the lights working is irreleveant to the car starting, lights draw almost no current compared to the starter drawing 400+ amps. You need to check the battery with a device that can put a load on the battery.




Posted By: KraziSupra93
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 3:17 PM
The alarms were there when i bought the car. I pulled two fuses which i thought were for the alarm. It shut off for a couple seconds and then turned right back on?? Almost like it rerouted itself another way. Any way i could set the alarms? What if i got them ripped out? Oh and what would putting a load on the battery do? What would it tell me?

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Posted By: ken984
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 3:23 PM
Well what probably happened was the alarm timed it self out, most run between 30 seconds and 1 minute per event, it jsut happened that you pulled the fuse at that moment, then the alarm sensed another event and set it self off, or maybe it has a battery backup system on it. If the alarm is going off then you need to disarm it with the remote, check the batteries in the remotes if it is not responding, the led will light even if the battery is so weak it won't transmit. Also look for a Valet switch if you can find that you can use the key and the switch to disarm the system. I do not think your car battery is totally dead but a voltmeter wont tell you if it has a dead cell in it under load.




Posted By: KraziSupra93
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 3:38 PM
Where would the valet switch be? Alarm isn't goin off unless i make it.  If the battery did have a dead cell could it make the car not start like this?

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Posted By: ken984
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 3:41 PM
valet switch could be anywhere but most of the time its under the driver side of the dash, coould be a toggle if its a clifford system or if its a viper its most likely a small black pushbutton. does the alarm chirp once or twice when you arm it?
Don't worry about the battery right now. If it was the battery it would do something when you turned the key.




Posted By: KraziSupra93
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 3:47 PM
There is a toggle switch under the drivers side. I found it a while ago but didn't know what it was or what it could do so i left i alone thinking it was nothing. Now how can i tell if it is for the alarm? Do i flick it the other way. Will it disarm the alarm or reset it? The alarm will sometimes chirp once or twice when i arm it or unarm it. It seems to go in and out.

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Posted By: ken984
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 5:35 PM
If the toggle is a valet turn the key on and then flip the switch, see what happens...it could be a manual kill switch and just flipping it could let the car start.
worth a try at this point.




Posted By: KraziSupra93
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 5:39 PM
Yeah it is I will have to try it. Though right now my ignition switch is out of the car.  I heard from a couple people that it could be a fusible link could have melted or something? Do you know where they are and how I could locate them?

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Posted By: ken984
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 7:17 PM
No clue about where a fusible link would be, they are difficult to find sometimes. However i do not think there is a big chance of that being the cause, the link from the key to the starter relay should not have any fuses in it.




Posted By: KraziSupra93
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 7:28 PM
So if it doesnt have any fuses what does tht mean? I was talking to someone tht told me tht near the toggle switch should be a little black box, the alarms brain. There is one, says Clifford on it but there is another but farther back...can't read it but I think thts the Viper. Wires are everywhere! Does tht sound right? Suppoedly theres a fuse on it and if I pull it out it will disarm my alarm?

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Posted By: ken984
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 7:51 PM
well with 2 alarms its tough to know exactly, but if you pull the fuses it might help, like i said in a previous post clifford uses normally open starter kill sometimes and the fuse being gone will not help if thats the case. the best thing to look at is the wires on the ignition switch. The wire should be BLACK/ white follow that and see where it goes...it probably goes to a relay take it loose and connect the 2 ends together and it SHOULD start, depending on what else this person did since it has 2 systems in it.




Posted By: KraziSupra93
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 7:58 PM
  Yeah I'll give that a try and let you know how it went. Is there anything else i could do or anything else it could be? Thanks for everything though,  I really hope I can figure this out!

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