Clifford NightVision
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Printed Date: May 04, 2024 at 4:45 PM
Topic: Clifford NightVision
Posted By: gloverk
Subject: Clifford NightVision
Date Posted: April 02, 2005 at 12:14 PM
Has anyone fitted this unit ? I have just received mine from a dealer in the US (cant buy this stuff in UK) and the install manual has the full wiring diagram.....except for the white wire.
On the diagram it says "Headlight Input - See Text" and there is no text. This is not the wire that powers the headlights (red black) or the sidelights (brown)....
Help...im stuck....could try wiring it without plugging this one in to see what happens but not confortable with this approach....
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Posted By: xaudiopipex
Date Posted: April 02, 2005 at 6:55 PM
i have never heard of that before, what exactly is it...
Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: April 03, 2005 at 1:48 AM
I just looked up the manual, says the same thing. I don't think it's used....I will check the manual for the one I have at work tomorrow
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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
Posted By: gloverk
Date Posted: April 03, 2005 at 3:14 AM
xaudiopipex - Its the auto headlight activation module. When it gets dark, lights come on....
Extreme1 - thanks, that would be very useful.
Posted By: scirocco16v
Date Posted: April 04, 2005 at 12:20 PM
If you are talking about the stand alone nightvision the wire you are referring to should be white, and is not needed in most cases. it is the 87a input on the headlight relay, with the thick red or RED / white being 87 and the RED / black as terminal 30. You use this wire if you cut and interupt the headlight wire of the vehicle. this will prevent backfeeding in to the ignition circuit if the headlights only come on while the ignition is on in the vehicle. such as volkswagens
Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: April 04, 2005 at 7:35 PM
scirocco hit it on the head, on vehicles suchs as VW, Audi, Focus etc it's to isolate the headlight switch
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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
Posted By: gloverk
Date Posted: April 05, 2005 at 3:35 AM
Thanks for your help guys.
Posted By: gloverk
Date Posted: April 05, 2005 at 3:36 AM
Thanks for your help guys. Is BMW included on the list of cars where this needs done....I have a 99 BMW 3 series.
The lights on the BMW do come on when the ignition is not on, the feed to the light switch is perm 12v....
Posted By: gloverk
Date Posted: April 05, 2005 at 2:46 PM
Guys, as you know, this module drives only a headlight. I wanted it to switch on dashlighting, headlamps/sidelights and rear lights.
Instead of using diodes, I used the following relay assembly to isolate the supply wires when the vehicles switch is used.... So basically, the switch always takes precedence over the nightvision module. Just in case I want the lights on but its not dark enough initially for nightvision then it gets darker. I dont want 2 feeds into the lights....
Does this configuration pose any issues....? It seems to work in practice. Any easier way to do it (without using diodes - not a big fan of these....)
Posted By: Captanham
Date Posted: April 05, 2005 at 3:36 PM
if you catch it at the switch, MOST modern vehicles will turn on all the dash lights if you power up the marker light wire, (normally ur brown wire,, atleast on gm's) so that's not normally neccisary (i know i can't spell ------------- Bad Boys Customs
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Posted By: OmarR
Date Posted: April 05, 2005 at 9:18 PM
Captanham is right. Using a meter, find out which wire at the light switch shows 12V with just parking lights. Connect this wire to the brown wire of the NightVision module. Unless it is different in the UK than the US, this should power all your outside lights and all your dash lights. As for turning on the lights earlier than the nightvision module is capable of, such as a really foggy day, why not just use the car's existing switch?
Posted By: scirocco16v
Date Posted: April 05, 2005 at 11:34 PM
I think that the 99 3 series needs a wire interrupted at the switch to operate the lights. I know that e46s needed and if i am not mistaken so did some e36s. if that is the case you definitely need a relay. If the headlight switch has ribbon cable connected to it and not individual color wires you need to interrupt one of the wires. Somebody else may have more details as I have never personally done one.
Posted By: Captanham
Date Posted: April 06, 2005 at 12:43 AM
didn't we already figure out up there earlier that the wite wire can be used as an interupt for the headlights? like an 87a connection for the internal relay? or am i nuts? (i'm not sarcastic, haha, i'm not sure) ------------- Bad Boys Customs
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Posted By: gloverk
Date Posted: April 06, 2005 at 3:02 AM
OmarR - it doesnt seem to work like that on my car. The right and left sidelights (parking) have separate wires, the headlights have a single wire (which also does rear lights when powered) and the dash lights have another wire which goes to the dimmer module first.
I needed to power all of these indivudually, hence my relay setup.
Scirocco - no ribbon cable at the switch.
Captanham - I hear what your saying but I dont understand how to use the white wire given I need to power 4 wires in total. Wouldnt I need to use a number of relays anyway ?
I thought that my diagram got round the feedback problem as only one source of power is used at any time.
Sorry if I appear a bit thick here.....
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