Remote Start , bypass the run time feature?

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Topic: Remote Start , bypass the run time feature?

Posted By: mexi
Subject: Remote Start , bypass the run time feature?
Date Posted: April 07, 2005 at 10:43 AM

Does anyone know if it is possible to bypass the run time feature on a remote start. My customer needs for his vehicle to run indefinitly. He does not want it to shut off in an hour. Please any info is helpfull. Thank you.

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Posted By: brcidd
Date Posted: April 07, 2005 at 2:18 PM

The Crimestopper units have an infinity run time mode-- cars runs until it runs out of gas..........you hit the start button twice on the remote while it is running to set it to this..............

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Posted By: mexi
Date Posted: April 07, 2005 at 4:34 PM

I've already installed a DEI 561T. Is there any way to bypass the runtime feature on this model.

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mexicang

Posted By: auex
Date Posted: April 07, 2005 at 5:20 PM

No, and if he wants it disabled then he is an idiot. There is no reason that it needs it to run for any length more then a hour. If he needs it to run longer tell his ass to use his key. Don't forget that there are some states that have run time laws as well.

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Posted By: the12volt
Date Posted: April 07, 2005 at 5:22 PM

You could always use relays to keep it running. Depending on how you want to wire it up, the number of relays needed could be as little as the number of ignition, accessory, and light leads you want/need to keep energized. Keep in mind you'll need to use an additional relay to reset it by pressing the brake or you could even use a momentary contact button/switch to reset it.

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Posted By: mexi
Date Posted: April 07, 2005 at 6:09 PM

The reason to keep it running is the vehicle carries a bomb sniffing dog. The vehicle is a 2005 Ford Excursion. You wouldnt happen to have a diagram on how to wire these relays, it would really help. I get really confused on relays. Thanks for the help.

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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: April 07, 2005 at 6:22 PM

What equipment do you have in this vehicle? Mainly the alarm.

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Posted By: mexi
Date Posted: April 07, 2005 at 7:05 PM

It is a DEI 561T along with a 555F bypass. It is activated by hitting lock 3 times

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Posted By: mexi
Date Posted: April 07, 2005 at 10:08 PM

Please i need help i'm doing the install tommorow.

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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: April 07, 2005 at 10:17 PM

Ok, I got a way. Give me a couple minutes to think it out.

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Posted By: mexi
Date Posted: April 07, 2005 at 10:22 PM

Thank you!!!

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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: April 07, 2005 at 10:38 PM

First thing, you need to program the blue/white output as a defroster output(activates 10 seconds after the rs engages). Then you will need 2 relays and some diodes. Wire the relays according to the diagram below. The - input to latch the relays will be the WHITE/ blue. The + shut down will be the brakes + wire. Your output will need to be diode isolated(alot of them) and they will go to the ribbon harness for the acc, ign, and any other additional relays you will need to use for additional acc and ign. I would recommend you also put a toggle switch inline with the WHITE/ blue so the user can disable the unlimited run time addition. Post a reply or PM/AIM me if you have any questions.

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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: April 07, 2005 at 10:45 PM

Oh, and my first response still applies to normal customers. This is an exception, as I too have done RS installs for K9 vehicles.

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Posted By: mexi
Date Posted: April 07, 2005 at 11:33 PM

Thank you i will give it a try. Again thank you very much.

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Posted By: mexi
Date Posted: April 07, 2005 at 11:36 PM

Stupid question. Do you need 2 diodes per wire to isolate.

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Posted By: mexi
Date Posted: April 07, 2005 at 11:40 PM

Another question where does the blue with white wire go?

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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: April 08, 2005 at 12:20 AM

The WHITE/ blue comes from the 561T and goes to the latch activation wire, left side of diagram. You need 1 diode for the acc ( from the ribbon harness), 1 for ign ( frome the ribbon harness), and 1 per additional relay for the acc/ign.

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Posted By: mexi
Date Posted: April 08, 2005 at 12:24 AM

Dont guess you could draw me a detailed diagram. It would be greatly appreciated,

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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: April 08, 2005 at 12:42 AM

Your killing me here. I suck at paint, but I gave it a shot. The WHITE/ blue comes from the 561T, you need to program the 561T to use this wire as defroster wire that activates 10seconds after the RS engages. The shutdown wire comes from the car, you have to tag this for the 561T anyways. You will need to tap into the ribbon cable and tie the isolated outputs into the pink and orange wires in the ribbon harness. You will also need to tie an isolated output for any additional relays you use to power acc2, ign2, ign3, etc into the -activation input on the relays.

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Posted By: mexi
Date Posted: April 08, 2005 at 12:51 AM

You have been a great help. Not many people are willing to help. Thanks. Do you know how to make a vehicle stay running when the key is removed, and die when the brake is pressed. Emergency vehicles use this feature. If im asking to many questions let me know.

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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: April 08, 2005 at 12:56 AM

Wire a momentary switch (spare valet button) to pass a ground (one wire off the switch to ground), and then wire the other wire off the switch to the WHITE/ blue. Use 2 diodes and isolate the switch from the alarm, just like door triggers. This will only allow the vehicle to stay running, it will not start the car.

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Posted By: mexi
Date Posted: April 08, 2005 at 1:00 AM

I owe you one. Thanks

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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: April 08, 2005 at 6:19 PM

And?

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