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2002 Dodge Caravan probs

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=53788
Printed Date: May 04, 2024 at 7:49 PM


Topic: 2002 Dodge Caravan probs

Posted By: Alpine Guy
Subject: 2002 Dodge Caravan probs
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 5:04 PM

Doing a 2002 Dodge Caravan:

#1 Unlock wont work, my resistor is 6.6k ohm, is that off too much from the 6.5k ohm reccomended?

#2 Parking lights are multiplex, my auto start schematics say a 3k ohm resistor, but does not list the wire or where it is.  What colour and where is it?

#3 I found the "yellow" 2nd starter wire, but could not find the 1st starter wire, i believe it was PURPLE / brown, can i get a confermation on the starter wire colours and where they should be located.

Thanks



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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.



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Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 6:10 PM

Constant 12 voltsL BLUEIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS *
Ignition 12 voltsPINK/WHITEIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS **
StarterYELLOW (+)IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome LightYELLOW/WHT (+)PIN 33 OF 34 PIN CONN. AT B.C.M.
Trunk Pin SwitchVIOLET/ORANGE (-)PIN 29 OF 34 PIN CONN.AT THE B.C.M.
Parking LampWHT/BRN(RESISTOR SYS.)AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH (SEE TECH NOTES)
Power LockVIOLET/D GREENAT B.C.M.LOWER LEFT OF STEERING ***
Power UnlockSINGLE WIRE SYSTEMCOLUMN IN PIN 21 WHT 34 PIN CONN.
* All Wires Are 20 Gage.L BLUE Fused At 10 Amps. For main Power Connection Connect To BROWN / RED Or WHITE/ RED Fused At 20 Amps At 6Pin Conn. At B.C.M. ** Ignition Wire Controls All Accessories. *** Chassis Ground Thru A 5.3k To Lock And Chassis Ground Thru A 2k Ohm Resistor To Unlock. ( Connector Is Third Up From Bottom Of BCM) 
Single Wire Resistor Door Locks

Accessories
Window UpD\ORG/LT GRN P\ORG/TN D\ORG/D BLU P\ORG/GY @ MAIN SWITCH
Window DownF/ORG/WHT F/ORG/D GRN R/ORG/L BLU R/ORG/D GRN
Ign Key WarnVIOLET/BROWN (-)IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Trunk ReleaseHATCH RELEASE:VIOLET/TAN (-) THRU 1.69k RESISTER @ BCM
OEM HornD GREEN/ VIOLET (-)STEERING COLUMN
HeadlightsWHT/YEL WHT/BR ATHEADLAMP SWITCH RESISTANCE VALUE *
OEM Alarm ArmVIOLET/LT BLUE (-)PIN 14 AT 34 PIN CONNECTOR,RESISTERS
OEM Alarm DisarmVIOLET/LT BLUEARE THE SAME AS LOCK & UNLOCK BUT **

* 788-809 Ohms ** Apply In The Opposite Direction.
Reversal Rest At Ground Power Window Circuit 
Right Slider Open/Close Chassy Ground Thru 3900 Ohm Resistor On Glossy VIOLET / YELLOW at B.C.M Right Of Steering Column. Hood Ajar Switch - VIOLET/LIGHT BLUE (-) Pin 30 White 34 pin Conn. At B.C.M.

Remote Start
Tach SignalD BLUE/D GREENPIN 11 GRAY/BLACK 40 WAY CONN.P.C.M.*
Ignition #2See Note Below **
Ignition #3
Accessory
Neutral SafetyWHITE/ LT GREENPIN 9 OF 34 PIN CONNECTOR AT BCM
Brake LightWHITE/ TAN (+)AT SWITCH
Reverse LightWHITE/ LT GREEN (+)PIN 9 OF 34 PIN CONNECTOR AT BCM
Rear Window Defrost

* Power Control Module Located Left Front Corner Of Engine Compartment. Ignition Input To Keyless:PINK/WHITE
** VIOLET/BROWN and VIOLET/ORANGE Must See 180 OHM Resistor Between Them During Start Due To Multiplexing. 
Immobilizer Bypass Diagram.

This Vehicle Has A Resistored Park Light System.The WHITE/ BROWN Wire Must Be Cut And A relay And Resister Must Be Used. Pin 85 To Ground Pin 86 To The WHITE Wire Of The Alarm.Pin 87A Switch Side Of WHITE/ BROWN Wire,Pin 30 BCM Side Of WHITE/ BROWN Wire. Pin 87 To One Side Of A 5.8k Ohm Resistor,The Other Side Of The Resistor To Ground. There Is A WHT/DK.BRN In The Rear Harness (Driver Kick) That Is A Pos 12v To The Tag Lights. 
Door Lock/Unlock Wire Located On The Third Connector Up From The Bottom. ***********Door Lock And Bypass Module Available *************
OMEGA # DB-CHDL-1BPK



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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 7:53 PM

** VIOLET/BROWN and VIOLET/ORANGE Must See 180 OHM Resistor Between Them During Start Due To Multiplexing. 
Where are these wire located?  Ignition harness?

WHITE Wire Of The Alarm

Im assumeing that is the positive parking light output from alarm?

Thanks for the info mo12V , i hope to get the customer back his vehicle tomorrow morning.



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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.




Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 8:02 PM

** VIOLET/BROWN and VIOLET/ORANGE....@ Ignition Switch Harness

WHITE Wire Of The Alarm = Parking Light Wire from your RS



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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: DanDan
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 8:23 PM
Ok, Ill give you some secrets. The lock wire needs to be a 5.3k to ground. Unlock needs to be a 2k. Don't have to be dead on but close is good. Easy enough. The 180 ohm resistor is for the violet brown. That goes to ground during start only. Now for my best kept secret. Instead of flashing the parking lights and wasting your relay and resistor the easiest thing to do is flash the hazards. It is the bottom plug on the BCM and the wire color is white with a dark blue stripe. It is a simple negative trigger. The hazards are brighter and work like a champ. No wasting time with five wiring the park lights. I put a remote start today in an 02 Town and Country which is the same vehicle. I used the DEI 561t and the 555c bypass. The vehicle is very easy to do. The only extra I had to do was the factory alarm bypass during remote start. You have to use a 9.1k resistor to ground at the BCM. Good luck.

DanDan




Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 8:49 PM
So if i use the hazards, when remote starting wont they constatly flash for 15 min straight?

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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 9:27 PM
You can use the BROWN wire at the dirver's kick panel as well for the (+) parking light. Works everytime.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 13, 2005 at 7:29 PM

This van has been nothing but a pain in the but!  I got everything done and working except the security bypass.  I have the kind of bypass where the antenna wraps around the ignition 3-6 times,,whell i did that and it gave me the confirmation that it read the code, but when i remote start it does the old start and die meaning the bypass isn't sending the code.  (everything works fine when the key is inserted when remote starting)   Where exatcly should i wrap the antenna?  I have it wraped around the factory security plastic piece that reads the factory key, should i put it infront of it?

As you can tell i haven't done alarm/starters for a year, i had a security specialist do that work, but he moved on.



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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.




Posted By: thepencil
Date Posted: April 14, 2005 at 8:27 AM
Is the ground out when running wire connected to the bypass? Sounds like it might be the case. If you wrap the wire around the factory key cylinder it will do. Sometime you have play with it just a bit to get to the sweet spot.    

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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 14, 2005 at 9:07 AM
Yup, ground out is connected, and tested to be working.  I guess i'll fiddle with the antenna more.

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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 14, 2005 at 9:25 AM
You have to wrap it around the round portion of the cylinder before the Sentry box where the ring is mounted. If you do it after this point, it will not work.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 14, 2005 at 1:56 PM

Yup i wraped it around the furthest point out and it worked, , i had to put a dab of glue to hold the wrappings, but it works and thats all that matters.

Thanks for your help on this install everyone!



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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.




Posted By: diagnost
Date Posted: June 02, 2005 at 5:23 PM
Please send me BCM wiring, not enough information about Caravan 2002 year (need connect door switches for alarm). My adress diagnost@newmsk.tula.net

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Alexander E. Eliseyeff





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