Adding piezo to alarm

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Topic: Adding piezo to alarm

Posted By: BLACKTJ
Subject: Adding piezo to alarm
Date Posted: April 19, 2005 at 4:51 PM

Hello folks, it's the annoying noob again :)

I have a Clifford Concept 600 Alarm, and I read in the wiring specs that there is a Yellow Accessory (-) wire that I can use for air horns. I'm assuming I can use this for my piezo as well (programmable Constant/Pulsed), but I have absolutely no idea how to take that one (-) Yellow wire and plug it into the two + and - wires on my piezo siren.

My best guess is using a relay, but from what I see on this website, those are used to convert one type of trigger into the opposite type of output: https://www.the12volt.com/relays/page1.asp

Any type of help would be greatly appreciated.

God bless,

Tony.

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Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: April 19, 2005 at 7:06 PM

U got it.................

Ground Negative side of Piezo:

1 SPDT Relay:

PIN 87 = Positive Wire to Piezo
PIN 30 = 12 Volt Positive Constant
PIN 86 = 12 Volt Positive Constant
PIN 85 = Negative (Yellow ) wire from Alarm

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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.

Posted By: BLACKTJ
Date Posted: April 20, 2005 at 1:00 AM

Hello MO,

Thanks for your reply. Not sure I get it though posted_image

Where do I connect pins 30 & 86? The diagram on this page says 12V+ Fused:

https://www.the12volt.com/relays/page1.asp

I just have no idea what to do with that wire!

Thanks,

Tony.

Posted By: BLACKTJ
Date Posted: April 20, 2005 at 1:09 AM

Here's what I get so far...

85: Plug the (-) cable from the alarm

87: Plug into the (+) wire of the Piezo

Connect the (-) wire of the Piezo somewhere on the body for ground.

Do I even need pins 30 & 86? If so, connect them together as the diagram shows, and plug them where?

Cheers,

Tony.

Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: April 20, 2005 at 8:35 AM

PIN 30 & PIN 86 go to a 12 Volt Positive CONSTANT Source in your Vehicle. Such as the Constant source your Alarm is hooked to or a battery lead
Be sure & fuse the lead

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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.

Posted By: BLACKTJ
Date Posted: April 20, 2005 at 10:24 AM

Ah! Thank you so much MO!

Any way to tell where and what color the 12 Volt ignition wire is on 2004 Wrangler TJ?

Posted By: thepencil
Date Posted: April 20, 2005 at 10:38 AM

DARK BLUE + IGNITION

DIRECTWIRE™ WIRING INFORMATION - JEEP / WRANGLER / 2004 / Remote Start

12volts pink/black (30A), red (20A)   +   ignition harness
Starter yellow   +   ignition harness
Second Starter N/A
Ignition dk. blue   +   ignition harness
Second Ignition N/A
Third Ignition N/A
Accessory BLACK/ orange   +   ignition harness
Second Accessory BLACK/ dk. green and WHITE/ pink +   ignition harness
Notes: Not required for remote start.
Keysense lt. blue   -   ignition harness
Power Lock N/A
Power Unlock N/A
Lock Motor N/A
Unlock Motor N/A
Parking Lights+ BLACK / YELLOW   +   headlight switch
Parking Lights- N/A
Hazards same as turn signal wires
Turn Signal(L) gray (F), dk. GREEN/ red (R)   +   turn signal switch
Turn Signal(R) tan (F), BROWN / red (R)   +   turn signal switch
Reverse Light PURPLE / black   +   driver kick, gray 40 pin plug
Door Trigger tan (D), tan / YELLOW (P)   -   driver kick, gray 40 pin plug
Notes: Use both wires and diode isolate each.
Dome Supervision yellow   -   driver kick, gray 40 pin plug
Trunk/Hatch Pin N/A
Hood Pin N/A
Trunk/Hatch Release N/A
Power Sliding Door N/A
Factory Alarm Arm N/A
Factory Alarm Disarm N/A
Disarm No Unlock N/A
Tachometer NOT dk grn/lt grn, dk grn/org   ac   ignition coil or any fuel injector
Wait to start N/A
Brake Wire WHITE/ tan   +   brake pedal switch
Parking Brake gray/black   -   parking brake switch
Horn Trigger RED / yellow   -   horn switch
Memory Seat 1 N/A
Memory Seat 2 N/A
Memory Seat 3 N/A
Immobilizer Bypass Module: Required: Yes Type: Sentry Key Part #: 555C, 556U, or 555U
Notes: Only vehicles with gray keys have the immobilizer.


This wiring information is being provided free of charge on an "as is" basis, without any representation or warranty. It is your responsibility to verify any circuit before interfacing with it using a digital multimeter.
Directed electronics, Inc. assumes no responsibility with regards to the accuracy or currency of this information. Proper installation in every case is and remains the responsibility of the installer. DEI assumes no liability or responsibility resulting from improper installation, even in reliance upon this information.

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Posted By: BLACKTJ
Date Posted: April 20, 2005 at 10:52 AM

Sweet! Thank you pencil!

I was actually looking for the 12volts ignition wire. Can I just choose between the pink/black and red wires?

Posted By: thepencil
Date Posted: April 20, 2005 at 10:59 AM

pink/black (30A), red (20A)

Use the pink/black. 30Amp

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Posted By: BLACKTJ
Date Posted: April 20, 2005 at 12:14 PM

Cool - thanks a lot.

One more question though - just want to make sure I don't blow anything up :)

I'll still need to fuse the cable coming from (12volt+ Fused) 30&86 that will plug into the pink/black cable, correct?

That should be enough of the noob for a while :)

Tony.

Posted By: thepencil
Date Posted: April 20, 2005 at 12:18 PM

"I'll still need to fuse the cable coming from (12volt+ Fused) 30&86 that will plug into the pink/black cable, correct?"

That's correct!

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Posted By: BLACKTJ
Date Posted: April 20, 2005 at 12:24 PM

Thank you pencil and MO, you guys have been very helpful.

I'll probably give it a crack tomorrow and see how it goes. Hopefully won't blow anything up :)

Next project after this, door actuators on my TJ. Should be fun!

Tony.