New DEI Responder alarms
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: July 18, 2025 at 8:14 PM
Topic: New DEI Responder alarms
Posted By: GheTToBaSS
Subject: New DEI Responder alarms
Date Posted: November 18, 2002 at 12:36 AM
I'm looking at getting either a Viper 790xv, Python 880xp, or a Clifford Matrix RS3. One of the new DEI Responder systems. Is there any difference at all between them? I want a good price, but am also worried about warranty. I will probably have it professionally installed though. I can get the Python for $300 plus shipping. Any suggestions or advice where can I can get one of these for cheap? Would it be better to just buy it from an authorized dealer with the installed price, to get full warranty on the system and the installation ? How much does only install typically run if I bring in the alarm? Also is there any difference at all in features or anything else with the Viper, Python, and Clifford versions ? How do they compare to the Viper 900esp and the other high end DEI alarms ? I bascially want the best alarm with remote start and the most features like window roll-up etc, I can get for around $500 or less installed, with the new Responder remote. But if theres any way I could get it for closer to $300 installed I would be much happier. Which one should I get or would you recomend? Thanks!
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Posted By: SOUND PRESSURE
Date Posted: November 18, 2002 at 1:16 AM
They are all made by the same company now. As far as instal price goes it all depends on how drastic you want to go with the alarm, such as features and so on, price wise it can go anywhere from $50 and up to and about $150 possibly more. Guarantee wise D.E.I. products are valid only through authorized dealers only. Hope this helps a little bit.
------------- Sound Pressure
You know you have the right amount of pressure when your eyes start to water! Now you've got Juice!
Posted By: GheTToBaSS
Date Posted: November 18, 2002 at 1:30 AM
Thanks for the quick response. I know they are all made by the same company, but I was wondering if all three models have the same features, and if not, what are the differences? And if any one of them is better or would be reccomended over the other for any reason?
I would be willing to pay whatever it is to get it installed properly at an authorized dealer, I'm just trying to find out if I should just buy it from the dealer and get it at the installed price, or try to find it somewhere cheaper and get it installed at the dealer. If I did this, bought it somewhere else and had it installed at an authorized dealer, would I still have all the warranty options? Or at least still have warranty on the installation ? What would you reccomend? And also how do these compare to the other high-end DEI alarms? I want the best alarm, with remote start, and most of the features possible.
And any suggestions as to what would be the best deal/thing for me to go with? Or where I could find one of them cheap? Thanks!
Posted By: SOUND PRESSURE
Date Posted: November 18, 2002 at 1:40 AM
I would ask the second dealer that you are bringing it to if they install outside products. Then call the D.E.I. number and ask them if the warranty would carry over to another install bay and if indeed they are authorized. Me personally if you want it done right get it done where it is sold at. D.E.I. go through alot of requirements in oreder for them to sell and more intense on installing there product correct and neat. As far as features I could not tell you at this time what exact features one has over the other. Some of the higher end models will have extra channels on it over the others. I will check around now and see what I could find and let you know.
------------- Sound Pressure
You know you have the right amount of pressure when your eyes start to water! Now you've got Juice!
Posted By: SOUND PRESSURE
Date Posted: November 18, 2002 at 1:47 AM
Here's a site that you can compare them. https://www.directed.com/ ------------- Sound Pressure
You know you have the right amount of pressure when your eyes start to water! Now you've got Juice!
Posted By: GheTToBaSS
Date Posted: November 20, 2002 at 2:27 AM
I think they are all exactly the same alarm. And I had been planning to buy it online, and then have it installed at an authorized dealer. Either that, or just buy it at the dealer and have it installed there (more expensive, probably). I would also probably want to add a whole bunch of stuff to it, like windows, sunroof, proximity, glass break, back battery, etc. I was wondering if anyone here might be a DEI distributor or have a connection with someone and might be able to get it cheap? That would be awesome..............
Posted By: sador
Date Posted: November 20, 2002 at 3:41 PM
Viper 790vx,Phyton 880xp, there are the same also is exactly the same with Viper 550,or Phyton 1500,same features,same programin,same place to plug the harnnes.. etc. The only different is the antenna this one have 4 wires instead of 3 and the Remote.also in the installation manual doen't show the diagram how to use relay when you need it,but the viper 550 and phyton 1500 does. If you already have a viper 550 or Phyton 1500 what you have to do is swap all the harnnes and run the new antenna. That's it. I work myself doing installation and I already installed like 5 of this alarm. (I get these alarm from a friend how own a shop and he give me whosale prices)so I sell this alarm for like $400 or $450 but with almost all the extras incluided!
Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: November 20, 2002 at 3:54 PM
Buying it with installation from a dealer is inevitably cheaper than trying to find it somewhere else. The store I work at sells Viper 790XVs installed for $470, of which over $200 is labor, and you generally can't buy high-end DEI products without installation. ------------- C Renner's Auto Electronix
My service is cheap, quick, and good - pick any two
Posted By: GheTToBaSS
Date Posted: December 02, 2002 at 3:11 AM
Thanks for all the replies and feedback. I now realize that it is not going to be cheap if I want it done right and installed properly. I've decided that I will both buy and have it installed by a professional and authorized dealer, and get the DEI warranty, even if it means shelling out some serious cash.
I checked out the local Circuit City, they said $470 installed for the Viper 790xv alarm itself, but they would match any advertised price of any shop. What is the cheapest anyone has seen this for, and can you show me the advertised price please?
Also would you guys reccomend Circuit City or not? They are supposed to be MECP certified installers, I believe.........but when I inquired about all the extra add-on modules I wanted they said that they've only ever had 1 car that wanted to have all that stuff installed in. I was thinking about getting remote windows, sunroof, audio system, proximity sensor, voice mod, glass sensor, backup batt, extra sirens, piezo sirens, etc, hoodlock, starter kill, maybe fuel pump kill, and brain installed in an extremely hidden and hard to find location. I am still trying to figure out everything I want. I also found an authorized DEI dealer who is selling most of these sensors and modules new with warranty for pretty cheap, so I will probably be getting most of the add-on stuff through him.
Would you guys reccomend Circuit City for this type of installation, or should I try a custom car audio shop?
Also I would like to know if I just got the basic alarm at first, and decided to add on all the extra stuff later...........would that be more expensive than just getting it all together, or would they both be the same ? What would be easier, cheaper, and more practical? I think it would be easier for me to add on all the extra stuff later, becuase I wouldn't have to spend so much money all at once...what would you reccomend?
I also would like some advice on how to have it installed properly so it will provide the best security..........any special ways of doing something, tips, things to add, etc.
Please give any suggestions, advice, comments.
Thanks!
Posted By: jaxman
Date Posted: December 02, 2002 at 7:42 AM
Well , if you are going to buy it installed ..... no tips , the guys installing it will know what is best :) As for buying the extra stuff later ..you have to think that it will also cost you to install them at that time , and I think it has to be the same guy who installed the alarm , he will know all the wires he installed and all that. I think no other installer will continue the job since it wasn't him starting the installation , or if he would will be more expensive. I wouldn't continue somebody's else job so cheap.
So I guess will be more expensive to buy and install the extra things later. The price for the accessories will be the same now or later but the installation might not have the same price. ------------- Damn cold here ... 
Posted By: GheTToBaSS
Date Posted: December 02, 2002 at 4:40 PM
Yeah, I will probably get everything installed together becuase it would be easier also to hide all the wiring, and it may be cheaper also...........I would go to the same guy anyway though. Would you guys reccomend Circuit City though, or should I try a car audio shop.........there is one here that may be an authorized DEI dealer, not sure yet though..............I don't know if we have any other DEI authorized dealers up here (Binghamton, NY). There are several that are about an hour away though......(Syracuse NY). Please post some advice/tips on installation though, I want the best install possible with the best security. I will have all connections soldered..............anything else I should worry about? What are some excellent places to mount the brain so it cannot be found? Thanks.
Posted By: djfearny2
Date Posted: December 02, 2002 at 8:03 PM
to tell you i am an autherized die mecp cert installer i have the viper 790vx or xv whatever in my car it has everything. i roll windows up and down . remote start proximity sensor,shock sensor, lift tilt mercury sensor all tied in to the car and its perfect the remote on the other hand can be better . the tones cant be changed like the audiovox 2 way and it does not have time date etc. but it does have a good light and vibration alert as well. to tell you most shops get this for 135 or thats what i paid .. another good thing is the range. boy o boy this thing works far. the antenna is a little bulky not fat but long . but very skinny and not hard to hide., circut city most of those kids dont know anything so if your gona spend the money go to a shop and ask for an mecp certified installer to do your alarm.
------------- Jon
Installer/Help Technician
---coral springs florida---
mecp certification is not always needed. I have it and it has not helped me out at all. my experience out shines it.
Posted By: Oc768
Date Posted: December 02, 2002 at 10:39 PM
whatever you do, MECP or not - avoid circuit city @ all costs. I can't speak for all of em - but at least in my area they pick up all the scraps that the custom shops dont want. The custom shops buisness is mad crazy but they're making cuts...so go figure... Me personally - got sent out of town last year for a few months and bought a truck about 14 hours before I was supposed to leave (I was oncall...long story) but basically the dealer did me a "favor" and had c*rcuit c*ty put in a Viper (350? I think) for me on short notice. Its a long story but ultimately they (dealer) owed me keyless and a factory system - but it wasnt installed in the truck as they said it was etc. etc. so to appease me (and without my knowing) had the V put in. I came home to a good remote entry system basically. The jacka55es @ c*rcuit c. told me it was all set, then after I showed them how I could arm it, unlock the passenger door and get in - close it, with no alarm going off and the system armed...they agreed to fix it. I just had to schedule an appointment...and the wait was about 6 buisness days since they were busy. So customer service is important for HOW long? oh..till they get your $, I see. That alone pretty much sold me on never speaking to them again. I took the whole 45 minutes, and just fixed it myself.. btw - what website are you getting your DEI pricing from?
Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: December 02, 2002 at 11:24 PM
FYI, I work for Circuit City, and I know someone's going to think I'm just putting myself up, but C.C. is among the best at installing non-custom products (alarms, remote starts, radios, simple amp and subs). We also have a lifetime warranty on our labor, and (at least in the Pgh. area) do all fixes on labor before any other cars in the shop. I wouldn't recommend us if you want a fiberglass amp rack, multiple batteries, etc., but we get plenty of training and tech support for DEI products. If you're having problems with the circuit in your area GhettoBass, let me know - I might be able to tell a couple people and get it straightened out.
------------- C Renner's Auto Electronix
My service is cheap, quick, and good - pick any two
Posted By: GheTToBaSS
Date Posted: December 03, 2002 at 12:58 AM
Jon, You only paid $135 for the Viper790xv? Do you think you could hook me up with that deal? You live in NYC.........that's about 4 hours away from me, I'm upstate..........or maybe you would be willing to help me out with my install if that's possible and hook me up? Oc786, Your experience with CC sounds like a horror story...........that just sucks..........I have also heard good experience with CC, so now I am not sure what to think...........I hope nothing like that happens with me. Chris, I have been told by almost everyone I have talked to (installers from online and forums) that they would not reccomend CC, and that just because an installer is MECP cert, that does not make him good........experience makes someone good.......and most of the installers at CC are kids that don't know anything. Now how should I go about finding out if the installers who would be doing my alarm at CC are good or not? And whether or or not they are experienced? I do not want to go through the hassle of having to have my install re-done or going back to complain something doesn't work. For my security system I was planning to get alot of extra sensors, modules, extra sirens, backup batt, extremely well hidden brain location, and possibly an "open" starter kill and ign kill and fuel pump kill using relays..............and I want my connections to be soldered, and all wiring to be hidden and disguised like factory. Do you think CC would be competent enough to do an install like this very well? No, I am not currently having any problems with my local CC, but I haven't had my alarm installed yet......thanks for the offer, I will take you up on that if I need to. Can you also somehow can me a discount there? Do you have any suggestions? Thanks.
Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: December 03, 2002 at 1:37 PM
Just ask the people at your local shop how long they've been doing that kind of stuff for. We can do an install like that, but be prepared to leave the vehicle for a day. Emphasize that you're more concerned with the quality of the install than getting it done in 1 hour like a simple alarm. All our connections are soldered as a matter of course, so that's no more work for us. The main thing I can tell you is to be really clear about all this when you're talking to the installers.
------------- C Renner's Auto Electronix
My service is cheap, quick, and good - pick any two
Posted By: SOUND PRESSURE
Date Posted: December 04, 2002 at 11:42 PM
Hey Ghetto, I use to work for C.C. You have to be MECP certified. On the other hand like it was mentioned before experience is what counts not a piece of paper. Now as far as C.C.'s around here they have to solder all connections. If one is found not to be soldered that person would be fired. Again that is with the C.C.'s around here. Now as far as hidding the wires as you would want them and as they should be they are less likely to do that sue to the time involved according to them. They hide everything under the driver dash. Now for B.Buy they do not use solder, they use b connectors. They cut corners everyway. I had someone come to me not to long ago to check their work, needless to say it was a mess. Now I could not touch it because of their warranty that if anything is touch warranty is dead. Just a little advice from my end over here. Unknown from anywhere else, although it may differ but not down here. Best thing to ask C.C. is if they will hide the wires and all where if you were to look under the dash you will not find the brain or any wires. Ask alot of questions and be comfortable before you let your ride into someone else's hand. ------------- Sound Pressure
You know you have the right amount of pressure when your eyes start to water! Now you've got Juice!
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