2005 f150, viper 791
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: April 27, 2024 at 2:39 PM
Topic: 2005 f150, viper 791
Posted By: sikassscivic
Subject: 2005 f150, viper 791
Date Posted: May 07, 2005 at 9:26 PM
same as the older ones,ive done a 2003,i just bought a 2005,so do i use the same kind? anyone have any tips and maybe a diagram for me:D
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: May 08, 2005 at 11:21 AM
The 2005 uses a new form of PATS and you will need a different system than the 2003. I use the PKF3 that directly hooks into the PATS wires and doesn't require you to loose a key in the installation & have had 0 problems with any of the customer's vehicles that it was installed into.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: sikassscivic
Date Posted: May 08, 2005 at 7:48 PM
i bought a pkm1 from you for a mazda maita,i could never get it to work,i tried for hours,i called you,still never got it to work.
Posted By: sikassscivic
Date Posted: May 22, 2005 at 9:18 PM
ok,i bought a viper 791 and the pkf-3 for my 2005 f150.couple questions. 1)the sheet that came with the pkf-3 does not have a little check mark next the 2005 f150,but does have a check mark next to the 2004,so before i even begin,is it going to work on my 2005?? 2)it says i need the tx and rx of my ecu,where are these and does anyone have the color and locations i can grab them at?
Posted By: JiggaFan
Date Posted: May 23, 2005 at 7:27 AM
the tech sheet shows what the tx/rx/gd/ign wires SHOULD be depending on what your plug at the transponder ring on the key cylinder looks like...at least i know that's how the PKF and PKF2 work on '00 Expedition and '03 Focus. BTW, I've yet to get the PKF or PKF2 to program for the Expedition and Focus I just mentioned. Not sure if it's user error or bypass module incompatibility, but I've had to use a spare key in a universal bypass on both those vehicles.
Posted By: sikassscivic
Date Posted: May 23, 2005 at 6:32 PM
oh,so if i had a "type a" plug i would just wire it up to those same wires that it shows?do i just splice into them,or do i actually cut any othe wires?there really is no installation instructions at all.just a chart that shows the plugs.
Posted By: sikassscivic
Date Posted: May 23, 2005 at 7:18 PM
sheets keep refering to the BCM,located on the back driver cabin wall.does this mean im going to need to take out my back seat to get to it?i have a supercrew.also,what bypass did you use?
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: May 23, 2005 at 7:38 PM
what wires are you trying to "locate"
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Posted By: mxxmikexx
Date Posted: May 23, 2005 at 8:21 PM
just call and talk to their tech guys, they are very helpful over there 1-888-745-2233
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Mike Battaglia
Specialized Car Audio
Bensenville IL 60106
Posted By: moshpitmickey
Date Posted: May 23, 2005 at 8:36 PM
You should be able to get to the wires without removing the seat . The bypass for remote start is 556S, 555U, or 556U. These are DEI part numbers.
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moshpitmickey
Posted By: moshpitmickey
Date Posted: May 23, 2005 at 8:39 PM
Sorry, left this out. The bypasses are only needed for the light duty. Super Duty does not need a bypass. I'm not sure if a supercrew is considered heavy duty or not.
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moshpitmickey
Posted By: sikassscivic
Date Posted: May 23, 2005 at 8:40 PM
if any one has better wiring diagrams,id love to see them,the only one i found kinda sucks.dosnt show anything for the dome light supervision. looks like the bcm is where all my door triggers are at. with a 791 viper,will i need to hook up the tach on my f 150?
Posted By: sikassscivic
Date Posted: May 23, 2005 at 8:41 PM
moshpitmickey wrote:
Sorry, left this out. The bypasses are only needed for the light duty. Super Duty does not need a bypass. I'm not sure if a supercrew is considered heavy duty or not.
im pretty sure the f150 would be light duty,and 250's and up are heavy.
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: May 23, 2005 at 8:54 PM
sikassscivic wrote:
moshpitmickey wrote:
Sorry, left this out. The bypasses are only needed for the light duty. Super Duty does not need a bypass. I'm not sure if a supercrew is considered heavy duty or not.
im pretty sure the f150 would be light duty,and 250's and up are heavy.
F150's are light duty. The F250 comes in light and super duty. At least it did up until the new design. The F350 and higher is always a superduty.
Posted By: sikassscivic
Date Posted: May 23, 2005 at 10:09 PM
the pkf-3 says it needs a ground when running,can i just use one of the extra ignition wires i have left over,i have a 200ma 2nd accessory,200ma starter and a 200ma 3rd ignition and i have the 500ma ground when armed.what should i use and would i need a relay?
Posted By: daniel2002p
Date Posted: May 24, 2005 at 7:36 AM
Remote Starter Wiring Colors and Notes | Function | | Vehicle Color | Location | Start: | | RED / BLUE | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS* | Ignition #1: | | BLUE/GREEN | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | Ignition #2: | | N/A | | Ignition #3: | | N/A | | Accessory: | | BLACK/ GREEN | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | Brake Light: | | GREEN (+) | AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL | Tach Signal: | | TAN (ac) | ANY IGNITION COIL | Parking Lights: | | BROWN (+) | HEADLIGHT SWITCH | Headlights: | | RED / YELLOW (+) | HEADLIGHT SWITCH | Diesel Glow Plug: | | N/A | | Clutch Bypass Wire: | | N/A | | Notes: | | * Vehicle is equipped with Ford's PATS Transponder Theft System. Use Universal Alarm Bypass Module part #2x402 where X can be any number. |
Alarm and Keyless Entry Wiring Colors and Notes | Function | | Vehicle Color | Location | Constant +12 Volts: | | GREEN/ VIOLET | IGNITION HARNESS | OEM Alarm Disarm: | | PINK/ORANGE (+) | PASSANGER KICK PANEL | Dome Lights/Superv: | | BLACK/ BLUE (+) | HEADLIGHT SWITCH | OEM Horn: | | BLUE (-) | STEERING COLUMN | Power Lock: | | PINK / YELLOW (-) | DRIVERS KICK PANEL** | Power Unlock: | | PINK/GREEN (-) | DRIVERS KICK PANEL** | Trunk Release: | | N/A | | Alarm Input Wire: | | BLACK/ BLUE (+) | HEADLIGHT SWITCH |
------------- 2005 Toyota Corolla S
1.8L VVT-i I-4
Always double check your wires with a DMM!!!
Do Not Use A Test Light!!!
MECP Certified Installer!
Best Buy 665 - IN IT TO WIN IT! TEAM MOBLE!
Posted By: daniel2002p
Date Posted: May 24, 2005 at 7:36 AM
here is the 05 Remote Starter Wiring Colors and Notes | Function | | Vehicle Color | Location | Start: | | RED / BLUE | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS* | Ignition #1: | | BLUE/GREEN | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | Ignition #2: | | N/A | | Ignition #3: | | N/A | | Accessory: | | BLACK/ GREEN | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | Brake Light: | | GREEN (+) | AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL | Tach Signal: | | Not red or RED / green AC | ANY IGNITION COIL | Parking Lights: | | BROWN (+) | HEADLIGHT SWITCH | Headlights: | | N/a | N/a | Diesel Glow Plug: | | N/A | | Clutch Bypass Wire: | | N/A | | Notes: | | * Vehicle is equipped with Ford's PATS Transponder Theft System. Use Universal Alarm Bypass Module part #2x402 where X can be any number. |
Alarm and Keyless Entry Wiring Colors and Notes | Function | | Vehicle Color | Location | Constant +12 Volts: | | GREEN/ VIOLET | IGNITION HARNESS | OEM Alarm Disarm: | | PINK/ORANGE (+) | PASSANGER KICK PANEL | Dome Lights/Superv: | | BLACK/ BLUE (+) | Drivers kick panel | OEM Horn: | | BLUE (-) | STEERING COLUMN | Power Lock: | | PINK / YELLOW (-) | DRIVERS KICK PANEL** | Power Unlock: | | PINK/GREEN (-) | DRIVERS KICK PANEL** | Trunk Release: | | N/A | | Alarm Input Wire: | | BLACK/ BLUE (+) | Drivers kick panel | Notes: | | ** See Note #201 if equipped with OEM Keyless. See Note #203 if no OEM keyless. |
------------- 2005 Toyota Corolla S
1.8L VVT-i I-4
Always double check your wires with a DMM!!!
Do Not Use A Test Light!!!
MECP Certified Installer!
Best Buy 665 - IN IT TO WIN IT! TEAM MOBLE!
Posted By: sikassscivic
Date Posted: May 24, 2005 at 2:53 PM
moshpitmickey wrote:
You should be able to get to the wires without removing the seat . The bypass for remote start is 556S, 555U, or 556U. These are DEI part numbers.
i can see alot of wires going up and down the pillar in the back,are my wires in those bundles?could i find thoise wires in the driver kick panel?
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: May 24, 2005 at 8:41 PM
I haven't done an alarm in an 04/05 F150, only remote starts. From what I have heard from others, you can get the true door trigger wires in the running boards. You probably have to get 2 on each side if its a 4 door. You may want look for them under the rear running boards in case the rear door trigger wires come in from the door boot and go straight back.
Posted By: sikassscivic
Date Posted: May 25, 2005 at 8:12 PM
im using a viper 791 on a 2005 f 150,will i have to hook up the tach wire?is it better to just do it?
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