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1996 monte carlo, alarm/remote start

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 27, 2022 at 11:32 AM


Topic: 1996 monte carlo, alarm/remote start

Posted By: jonchos
Subject: 1996 monte carlo, alarm/remote start
Date Posted: May 29, 2005 at 11:35 PM

I recently bought a 1996 monte carlo and it came with a factory alarm. I have been installing alarms only in car without any factory alarm, so I am not familiar on what to do to install the aftermarket alarm, should I remove or to "turn off" or disable the alarm? if so, how? Any help would be very helpfull, thank you.



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Posted By: nava94
Date Posted: May 29, 2005 at 11:47 PM

look for the wire in the driver kickpanel or at the factory alarm module.Test the wire with a digital meter to find out what polarity it takes to disable the factory alarm.The wiring diagram you could look for it at the vehicle info at the left of the screen under general info.





Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: May 30, 2005 at 12:00 AM
yeah I was looking at the alarm wiring and it does not say wich one is the disarm wire, does it even have one? please help.




Posted By: fbird08
Date Posted: May 30, 2005 at 12:40 AM

Im not sure of the color in the monte carlo (should be light green which is a standard GM factory disarm wire -check under vehicle wiring on this site for the color) but there should be a wire in the drivers kick (coming in from the drivers door boot) that will go to ground when you turn the key to the unlock position in the drivers door. That is your factory disarm wire. If you use 2 diodes to split the unlock wire from the aftermarket brain you can hook the one diode to the disarm wire and one to the unlock wire in the car. This will disarm the factory alarm and unlock the doors via the aftermarket alarm. Also to arm the factory alarm you will have to split the lock wire with diodes and hook it up to the doorpin wire and lock wire. This should arm the factory alarm and lock the doors via the aftermarket alarm. Again this is a standard GM thing you can check to see if this will arm the alarm by opening your door, hitting the lock button on the door, closing the door, waiting for 30 seconds or so for the alarm to set then open the door from the inside (not from the key). If the alarm goes off the the previous mentioned way of arming the factory alarm will work just fine.

G'luck

-John



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Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: May 30, 2005 at 12:56 AM
Thank you. I will look for it. Is there a way I can just remove the factory alarm? or is it judt ebtter to haver them working together? thank you.




Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: May 30, 2005 at 9:05 AM

DEI, and my astrochart say....no factory alarm, just lock, unlock, and passkey...!

https://www.directechs.com/directwire/wire_body.asp?action=select&yr=1638&product=Remote%20Start#



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Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: May 30, 2005 at 10:16 AM

Thank you so much KarTuneMan. Your post was really helpfull.





Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: June 02, 2005 at 2:29 AM
I am about to instal an aftermarket alarm on a monte carlo 1996 with dual airbags. What are the precautions I need to take with this type of car safety? Any help will help.




Posted By: Powermyster
Date Posted: June 02, 2005 at 4:27 AM
basic install you shouldnt' have to worry about them. i wouldn't think.

as long as you don't tap into one of the airbag wires or sensor wires




Posted By: joe_1
Date Posted: June 02, 2005 at 6:37 AM

all airbag wires are in yellow protective sleeving so aslong as you stay away from them u should be fine try and get as much info on the wiring as possible on the car you are installing it on first.

 

good luck with the install





Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: June 06, 2005 at 3:21 PM

 I was hopping someone had installed or worked on a 1996 chevrolet monte carlo before and knows where is the best part in the firewall to run all of your wires through(security and stereo power)? thank you very much.





Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: June 06, 2005 at 3:47 PM
like any vehicle, regardless of model, manufacturer or year, examine all available boots and grommets for room to snake wires.... if there just isnt any room then you may have to drill a hole thru the firewall, but MOST vehicles have room to at least run security/starter wiring through an existing hole.....

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Certified Electronics Technician
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Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979




Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: June 06, 2005 at 11:14 PM
I was wondering if anyone knows what kind of loks does the 96 chevrolet monte carlo have? type A,B or C? Thank you.




Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: June 07, 2005 at 12:04 AM
Pos, trigger... blue=lock, white=unlock. Drivers kick

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Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: June 07, 2005 at 8:16 PM
I am installing a clifford matrix 1 in a 1996 chevrolet monte carlo. I have everything hooked up, except for the domelight supervision, parking lights, and door triger. I canot find them. I know that they are supposed to be in the headlight switch but i can not get the headlight switch out to get to the wires. someone any help please!! very frustating. Also the trunk pin wire is red and white and it's supposed to be located at the trunk switch, is there any other place where I can find this one? o do I need to run the trigger wire all the way into the trunk? thank you.




Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: June 07, 2005 at 8:21 PM
DOOR TRIGGER|blue               |- |headlight switch *1        |
| DOME SUPERVISION|use door trigger    |   |                            |

*1 Also found low in the drivers kick panel.

dome supervison needs a relay.

TRUNK/HATCH PIN|RED / black           |- |trunk light or switch *2    

*2 Only found on some models. A pinswitch must be added on all others. *





Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: June 07, 2005 at 8:55 PM
Thank you. how would i connect the relay for the domelight suppervision? I found the trunk swith and I installed the accseory wire, but in order to install the alarm trigger I have to connect the RED / black wire to my alarm, I only found it in the trunk, do you know is it is somewhere else?




Posted By: Powermyster
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 3:56 AM
get the colour at the boot and i usually get them at the Drivers kick board or passanger you should be able to see which side its running down




Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 6:13 AM
for the trunk you may have to take a part soem panels and see were is goes up the right side or left side, if not just run a wire back to it soamtime that is easier to do.
for dome light. look at the relay section on this site its on lthe left hand side. it tell ya.




Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: June 21, 2005 at 9:37 PM
I have installed a Clifford Matrix 1 on a 1996 monte carlo. i want to install a remote start to this alarm, is it possible? I know that the alarm has a programable output but I do not know anything about remote start. any help please? wiring, wich remote start to get, precautions, anything will help. Thank you.




Posted By: OhioMike1101
Date Posted: June 21, 2005 at 9:49 PM

Monte Carlo should have the VATS system.  You will need to bypass the system for RS. 

Any RS unit should do as long as it has an activation input.

The Carlo is a pretty easy car to do.  Most pros can have it done in about an hour or so. 

I would recommend the Autopage RS-615 remote start, but our shop only carried Autopage.

https://www.directechs.com/directwire/wire_body.asp?action=select&yr=1638&product=Remote%20Start





Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: June 22, 2005 at 1:41 AM
I want to install a rs to my aftermarket alarm in my car. I know I need a DEI 652t or a vats bypass module. But I need to know the resistance on my key. here is where my question come, how do I do that? I am not a professional, but I can follow directions, hahaha. thank you.




Posted By: thepencil
Date Posted: June 22, 2005 at 6:30 AM
On your digital mulitmeter turn it to ohm measurement. A bell looking symbol. Now using the probe touch the little pill on the key on both side you should get a reading.

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Posted By: dare_ds69
Date Posted: June 22, 2005 at 6:31 AM
in your key should be the resistence using a digital multimeter put in ohms and test the key for the right resistence.

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Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: June 22, 2005 at 2:02 PM

Thank you. Also, how accurate does my multimeter has to be? I know some of them are 1.0% 1.2% 5% wich is better? Also in the meter I have different settings for the ohm 200k, 200, which one should I use?





Posted By: thepencil
Date Posted: June 22, 2005 at 3:12 PM
The more accurate the better the result. Set it on 200 first. If you need to go higher on the scale then switch. The K just mean times one thousand. The ohm resistence scale on the VATS if I remember correctly are only between. 200-3000 ohm.

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Posted By: OhioMike1101
Date Posted: June 22, 2005 at 11:48 PM
Vats bypass is easily made using a relay and the resistor.




Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: June 23, 2005 at 2:39 PM

I am installing a valet remote start (561t) in a 96 chevrolet monte carlo ls with an after market car security (clifford matrix 1). I installed this alarm in the car, I am not a pro but I can follow instructions. But I have some questions about the remote start.

In the installation manual for the 561t unit says something about the factory arm and disarm. first question, I should ignore this right? because my car does not have a factory alarm, it has an after market alarm.

It also says something about ignition output to RF system. As an add-on to an after market security system: If connected, disconnect the ignition/accessory of the remote controled security or keyless entry system. Connect the H1/3 yellow ignition output to the ignition/accessory input of the remote controled security system or keyless entry. The wire will prevent the host system from sensing that the ignition is on during remote start opertion. Second question, What ius this? As I am going to my clifford matrix 1 installation manual I do not see any ignition/accessory wire. Am I just not looking for the right wire? or I do not have one or what? super confused in this part.

Also the remote activation input on the valet remote start needs two pulse activation in order to start, but in my alarm the channel three, which is the one that I am using to controll the r/s says that it only provides this type of pulses, validity, latched. latched/reset with ignition, 30-second timed. will this work for the r/s? or do I need to set the r/s feature to one pulse activation?

In the relay key switch interface of the r/s, do I need to hook up this wires before my after market security system relay? or after? do I need diodes?

The neutral safety switch? where do I find this? is there a wire I do not see on the wiring diagram for the remote start wiring of the monte carlo? I have a shifteer in the middle of my car, not a column shifter or manual transsmision. Neutral safety switch interface? I am soooooo confused with this. Please help me.

I need to know how to hook up the vats bypass also, wich wire to hook up to the relay, h2/1 or h2/2?

Thank you.

 





Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: July 11, 2005 at 8:47 AM
I have installed a valet 561t on my chevrolet monte carlo 96, everything works great but the ac won't turn on all of the way, no air blowing or cold air blowing, only air from the bottom of the dash. I my vehicles wiring says my car has a second ignition, I did not hook this wire up to anything, could this be what is wrong? My rs has a wire that can be programed for accesory or for ignition, should I hooke this one up to the second ignition inmy car? thank you.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: July 11, 2005 at 9:41 AM

No 2nd IGN wir eon this car but you have a 2nd ACC wire ( PURPLE ) that needs to see 12 volts during remote start. Use this digram and a relay to have the blower motor engage : https://www.velocitymotorsport.com/images/install_notes/2nd_accessory_relay.jpg



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Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: July 11, 2005 at 1:27 PM
Thank you in your info, but doesn't the wiring diagram in the12volt.com says that the car has three different ignitions? also in the directechs.com webpage says the car has a second ignition, I do not see any secondary accesory wire. Regarding the color of the wire, purple is the wire that goes to the second ignition. what is second ignition anyway? thank you.




Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: July 11, 2005 at 1:33 PM

I have installed a valet 561t on a 96 chevrolet monte carlo. In the wiring diagram for this car at directechs.com explains that the car has a second ignition, I did not install the second ignition from my remote start to the second ignition on the car, is this a problem? or will it cause a problem later? my car starts fine, the only thing that does not work properly is the ac, it turns on, but the air wont come out from the vents, it comes from under the dash and is not cold, any ideas? please help.

 





Posted By: TJ92Civic
Date Posted: July 11, 2005 at 1:54 PM
Hook up the second ignition.  Your heat will probably not work while remote started either.




Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: July 11, 2005 at 2:19 PM
so you think this why the ac is not working? or the stereo?





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